1994 Pippen should have been mvp

So in Scottie Pippen world, Scottie never loses if the best player on the other team is playing a different position?

That's how it works now?

Pippen was the "man" on the '94 Bulls. Ewing was the "man" on the 94 Knicks.

They had similar levels of supporting cast. Ewing beat Pippen and outplayed him on top of that. Ewing was the better player in that series.

Them's the facts.

Pippen should have stepped up in the 95 playoffs and elevated to an MVP level of play ... he clearly did not in that Magic series. Why? Because he's not capable of doing that. 40% shooting when the team really needed him in that series. Gonna blame Kukoc for that too or is that another excuse?

[QUOTE]40% shooting when the team really needed him in that series. MVP caliber my ass.[/QUOTE]

The hypocrisy is stunning. MJ stans are pathetic. :lol This is the same guy who for pages praised a center who went 39% on TS in the NBA finals (all the team needed was 40% for a ring--too much to ask for a MVP center?) and another center who shot 41% in a first round collapse with a 56 win team. It is as stunning as shameless.

Paging, Whoah. Whoah?

MJ stans: everybody outplayed Pippen! Penny! Penny! Penny had a lower GS in both Bulls-Magic series. Everybody is better than Pippen! Kemp! Mourning! Miller! This is why Pippen's stock has risen on ISH. You guys are so ridiculous it boosts him. How long before we here Tyrone Hill>Pippen?

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;14028333]The hypocrisy is stunning. MJ stans are pathetic. :lol This is the same guy who for pages praised a center who went 39% on TS in the NBA finals (all the team needed was 40% for a ring--too much to ask for a MVP center?) and another center who shot 41% in a first round collapse with a 56 win team. It is as stunning as shameless.

Paging, Whoah. Whoah?

MJ stans: everybody outplayed Pippen! Penny! Penny! Penny had a lower GS in both Bulls-Magic series. Everybody is better than Pippen! Kemp! Mourning! Miller! This is why Pippen's stock has risen on ISH. You guys are so ridiculous it boosts him. How long before we here Tyrone Hill>Pippen?[/QUOTE]

Ewing did outplay Pippen in the 94 Bulls Knicks series.

Grant did outplay Pippen in the 95 Bulls Magic series as the best 2nd player on either team and Penny was pretty damn close to even.

You want to dispute that?

[QUOTE=Soundwave;14028326]They had similar levels of supporting cast.[/QUOTE]

What a gem here. So he says the 94' Bulls without Jordan had=supporting cast to the 94' Knicks. Boys and girls, if this is true, and you add Jordan to the Bulls that means the Knicks, the Bulls' top competition, was...

A) Equal to the Bulls
B) Far inferior--they were equal without MJ so with the "GOAT" they>>>the Knicks.

You tell me? Should we do a poll on this?

Yes, we get it. Every 90's all-star>Pippen. Not a word on Ewing, Robinson, or the others. Ewing outplayed by Derek Harper and John Starks in a NBA finals. Nothing. He isn't useful to MJ stans' agenda for the finals, is he? Robinson melts down. Nothing. Smits owns Ewing. Nothing. Pippen, Pippen, Pippen from the most rattled fan base on the planet.

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;14028336]What a gem here. So he says the 94' Bulls without Jordan had=supporting cast to the 94' Knicks. Boys and girls, if this is true, and you add Jordan to the Bulls that means the Knicks, the Bulls' top competition, was...

A) Equal to the Bulls
B) Far inferior--they were equal without MJ so with the "GOAT" they>>>the Knicks.

You tell me? Should we do a poll on this?

Yes, we get it. Every 90's all-star>Pippen. Not a word on Ewing, Robinson, or the others. Pippen, Pippen, Pippen from the most rattled fan base on the planet.[/QUOTE]

The Knicks weren't the Bulls top competition, they were one of the teams that were up there by virtue of being in the same conference, but they could never beat the Bulls with Jordan. None of that is nothing new or amazing. No one ever claimed the Knicks were a dream team. Defensively they were elite, but not offensively.

If Pippen is a better player than Ewing, the Bulls should win that series. Part of being an MVP is actually playing like one when the chips are on the table.

Please do point out where I said every 90s All-Star was better than Pippen, I never said that. Patrick Ewing though? Yes, he was a better player than Scottie Pippen, sorry if that ruffles your panties.

[QUOTE]Part of being an MVP is actually playing like one when the chips are on the table.[/QUOTE]

This is embarrassing. Jordan fans are so dishonest they can't even see their hypocrisy. This is why I am for LeBron. To destroy this trash fan base so hopefully they disappear.

Pippen gets overrated in these conversations to replace MJ as Goat, which is the real agenda. Yeah, Pippen was a very good HOFer, but he was not elite and on Hakeem, Shaq, Barkley or David Robinson's level.

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;14028344]This is embarrassing. Jordan fans are so dishonest they can't even see their hypocrisy. This is why I am for LeBron. To destroy this trash fan base so hopefully they disappear.[/QUOTE]

Good luck with that because that's never going to happen, but yeah stan for a b*tch that goes running any time he doesn't have an actual top 10 player on his squad minimum.

If that was the way the NBA was in the 90s, Jordan would have far more titles if players were just bailing on teams the moment any situation got too hard. That's not what I watch pro sports for.

Go ahead and answer the question, did Pippen out play Ewing in '94 playoffs? Did he outplay Grant in '95 Magic series? Should he have?

You seem to not want to touch that one.

[QUOTE=Marchesk;14028345]Pippen gets overrated in these conversations to replace MJ as Goat, which is the real agenda. Yeah, Pippen was a very good HOFer, but he was not elite and on Hakeem, Shaq, Barkley or David Robinson's level.[/QUOTE]

Yes, that is the real agenda. Pippen being good exposes MJ as a fraud. Get a grip. What an insecure fan base.

Barkley was 10th in MVP and 2nd team all-NBA in 94'.

David Robinson? Per the standards of MJ stans themselves, he is a fraud. 41% shooting from a C, going from 30 PPG to 20 PPG in the playoffs and losing in the 1st round with a 56 win team?

Of course, if you are a MJ stan, simply move the goal posts. One set of rules for Pippen; another for everybody else. That is the only way the fragile Jordanstan ecosystem survives.

Pippen! Pippen! Pippen! Are MJ stans as jealous of Pippen as MJ was? MJ stans don't want to do any analysis of any other 90's players. Why not? You guys aren't shamed by blatant hypocrisy. Let's go series by series, line by line.

I'll start. What's the explanation for Rik Smits dominating Ewing routinely?

How many times is this dude going to be called out for his agenda and then label everyone not agreeing with his ruse a jordan stan?

Is Pippen some irreplaceable legend that is in a class of his own :roll:[I][/I]

Pippen is overrated by Roundball Rock. He was not better than Barkley, Robinson, Malone, 90s Shaq, or even Ewing.

Pippen is underrated by 3Ball. He was better than just an average replacement player obviously. He was a good player.

These two need to just rent a room and have some hate sex. Spare the rest of the forum.

LOL at that meltdown Soundwave had at the mere mention of LeBron. SHOOK.

In all seriousness, Roundball_Rock is the most disingenuous person I've seen here.

He should be banned. Has never watched anything. Just picks stats to try and push an agenda.

"Jordan fans Jordan fans".

Trash.

Pippen! Pippen! Pippen!

Why are MJ stans terrified of examining other players using the standards put forward by MJ stans themselves? MJ stans are always quick to point to how every 90's star was better than Pippen! So what is the fear here? Put others under the same microscope and they, unlike the fraud Pippen, will come out smelling like a rose, right?