2021 training camp/pre-season!

[QUOTE] Marc Stein: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Warriors say they have waived Langston Galloway[/URL].

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine"]Twitter TheSteinLine[/URL]


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he'd be worth looking at

Ben Anderson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Hassan Whiteside said the @Utah Jazz are a uniquely close group. Mentioned the team’s group chat being different than a lot of teams he’s played for[/URL]. Said Mitchell and Gobert are different than he expected before joining the team.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops"]Twitter BensHoops[/URL]





Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Hassan Whiteside, on his practice battles with Rudy Gobert: “We beat the hell out of each other during the day, and then we play Call of Duty together at night.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/10/10/utah-jazz-3-goals-bogdanovic-2021-22/4/[/url]

[QUOTE]If the first goal in this slide was a pipe dream, and the second was too modest, this one feels like a solid compromise. If Bogdanovic was able to post a career high in assists per game in the 2021-22 season, it could provide his Utah Jazz with a tremendous boost.

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no it wouldn't. He's a horrible passer and dribbler. Best if he just catches and shoots off the bench instead of Clarkson ideally

In the midst of Utah Jazz fans being frustrated over the lack of ability to stream games during the upcoming season, [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2021/10/11/22720624/utah-jazz-announce-game-streaming-option"]the team on Monday announced a second option to do just that. “In the coming days,” fuboTV, a streaming service that emphasizes sports, will start carrying AT&T SportsNet Rocky Mountain, the television home of the Utah Jazz,[/URL] NHL’s Vegas Golden Knights and MLB’s Colorado Rockies. The announcement said it will first launch in Utah and Nevada and “the surrounding areas” and expand in the future.
– via [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2021/10/11/22720624/utah-jazz-announce-game-streaming-option"]Ryan McDonald @ deseret.com[/URL]

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/10/11/22720873/att-sportsnet-has-announced-a-partnership-with-fubotv-to-stream-utah-jazz-games[/url]

[QUOTE]The release from AT&T Sportsnet said the streaming will be available in the coming days and so Jazz fans wanting this option may need to be a little patient, but the [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com"]Utah Jazz[/URL] deserve some credit here. Even though this isn’t a perfect solution, it is something. The ownership group before Ryan Smith created a lot of this mess with not much foresight in the deals they made. And they did next to nothing to make the situation better. Smith, and the Jazz, have obviously been working to improve the situation for Jazz fans who have been clamoring for this option, especially after Dish Network and [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/10/1/22705062/dish-network-has-dropped-att-sportsnet-and-the-utah-jazz-streaming-option"]AT&T Sportsnet recently ended their relationship.[/URL] It remains to be seen what the future is for watching Jazz basketball for Jazz fans but this is a step in the right direction. You can bet the partnership with AT&T Sportsnet will be something to watch this year and we’ll see if another contract is signed.

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Smith extended the deal

[QUOTE] Marc Stein: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Kosta Koufos, the 11-year veteran NBA center, is signing with the Ignite select team in the @nbagleague,[/URL] league sources say. Koufos had multiple European offers but will join the Ignite instead.

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine"]Twitter TheSteinLine[/URL]

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cool. Big fan

[QUOTE] Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Bojan Bogdanovic: “I feel great. Obviously, I had a little shoulder problem. I’m not 100%, but I’m healthy and I feel great. I’m excited to play tonight.”[/URL]

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]

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not 100%? Excuses already?

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/10/10/22720153/utah-jazz-play-first-preseason-home-game-against-the-new-orleans-pelicans-donovan-mitchell[/url]

[QUOTE]It's a great problem to have. But finding Butler some minutes and touches when everyone is playing will be tough. There are Mike's 13 shots a game when he sits. I still think if he does explode he should get his minutes and touches from JC and if possible we trade JC for a more 3 and D guy who doesn't need the ball so much, JC was great when our bench was crap but now we can put good players on the court for the whole 48 minutes by staggering our rotations. Our biggest weakness is still another strong wing defender. We have enough offense when everyone is healthy.[/QUOTE]

someone gets it. Clarkson is the obvious weak link besides the coach. Need a starting 4 still

[QUOTE]"If Quin Snyder isn’t willing to make tough decisions to make that happen, the front office will have to."

This is the most important sentence by Hansen.



Although I like Q but I am willing to part ways with him if he remains stubborn.

1) He needs to find mins for promising younger players (Butler and next Hughes)

2) He needs to learn to adjust the system and read the floor

3) He should not add so much wear on tear on starting line up by playing them tons of mins such as full squad on mode with 2 mins remaining while we are up by 20.
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If guys earn minutes they need to play. Hughes hasn't proven he belongs even in the Gleague yet and for that matter neither has Butler though he certainly looks like a great reason to dump Clarkson on some dumb fool!

[QUOTE]Snyder has been willing to play rookies or young players in the past when those players show they can contribute. How many of UTA's young/development players have left the team and found major minutes with a new franchise (I honestly don't know but my guess is not many)? If the players can't earn minutes, it's usually for a reason.



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he's played guys in the past regardless besides the last two years when apparently he was trying to get the Wizard fired. Not sure if any of them deserved to play when they did
[INDENT]3) He should not add so much wear on tear on starting line up by playing them tons of mins such as full squad on mode with 2 mins remaining while we are up by 20.
[/INDENT][QUOTE]UTA's deep bench has been really terrible for several seasons. If those players can't hold their own against opposing teams' deep benches, there's little reason to believe those players would do better with more minutes against even better competition.

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and yet every year we hear how deep they are! :roll:


[QUOTE]The Jazz greatly overachieved last season, as they have every season under Quin.

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all I know is they beat LAC and Denver the last two years if Snyder makes adjustments

[QUOTE]No, that's not what I'm saying. You can criticize Coach Q all you want. I've criticized him as well. My analysis wasn't meant to say that he is perfect. It is meant to show that he has done more with less than any other coach in the league (looking strictly at draft position). [/QUOTE]

says more about Gobert who they've never done anything without

[QUOTE]Sure, the FO should get some credit, and of course the players should get a lot of credit, but so should the coach. Does anyone think that Gobert would be as impactful under any other coach? Or Jingles? We saw that Clarkson had his best season after going to Utah, and Conley had nearly his best season at age 33. [/QUOTE]

Gobert worked to get where he is. Other rim runners and rim protectors in the league so yes I see no reason why he wouldn't still be great. Ingles is a 40% shooter. Again he put in the work. Ultimate team guy. Not hard to see him doing it elsewhere. Clarkson sucks. Conley got to play with Gobert so yes great season. Nothing new. Hill, Rubio...

[QUOTE]And maybe me bitching on a fan site is pointless and maybe no one from the fo cares what the fans think. But believe it or not, ownership cares about fans opinions. They don't care what I think on a individual level, but if the sentiment among fans is that last year was wildly unacceptable and people need to be held accountable, they'll hear it if we make enough noise.[/QUOTE]

as we saw with Sloan to most fans they can do little wrong

[QUOTE]He deserves credit for hiring some good assistants like Jensen and Bryant who are are more involved in the day-to-day player development and the players seem to really give a lot of credit to.


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and weren't they both already here? Bryant was for sure

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/10/11/ringer-compares-utah-jazz-nba-champions/[/url]

[QUOTE]Devine touches on many of the talking points that, as Jazz specialists, we’ve been harping on for months here at the J-Notes. Most notably, he opinions that [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/10/10/recent-utah-jazz-pain-5-years/"]Rudy Gay[/URL] at the 5 formations could be an effective counter to the sorts of 5-out lineups that ultimately sunk the Jazz in the Western Conference semi-finals this season.

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could be so could Ersan have been. Same coach same problem

[QUOTE]As Devine notes, those are difficult assignments for the 6’4, 225-pound Royce O’Neale. For all of his defensive IQ and general toughness, he’s simply too small to be expected to handle some of the NBA’s more physically imposing forwards on a consistent basis.

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yet he starts at the 4 for the 3rd straight year! :facepalm

[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/the-finally-balanced-jazz-eye-contention-after-years-of-pendulum-swings/[/url]

[QUOTE]Dennis Lindsey, who recently ended his 9-year tenure as Utah’s general manager when he stepped down in June, was the mastermind largely responsible for the team the Jazz developed over years of moves and decisions that culminated in a top seeded team last year.[/QUOTE]

got lucky with Gobert. What else did he do?


[QUOTE]Ricky Rubio was brought in to be a playmaker to replace George Hill (who had a fantastic season, maybe one of his career best, despite playing only half the season). Rubio, however, is not a three-point threat. The dual-big frontcourt of Derrick Favors and Rudy Gobert exacerbated some of those spacing problems.

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made no sense. Wasted two more years of Gobert's prime

[QUOTE]A team lacking consistent 3-point ability missed too many important shots, and we saw night after night where defenses clogged the paint as a result. Utah still made it a successful season with their rookie leading the way, ultimately reaching the second round. But the holes were glaring. They were obvious and they pushed the pendulum up and to the right (in the worst way).

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the rookie that had them closer to the worst record in the league than the playoffs until Gobert came back to carry them or another one?

[QUOTE]From there, the objective seemed clear. Fix the offensive and spacing issues and hope Gobert’s singular talent as a paint protector would be enough to anchor another top 5 defense. In other words, the pendulum swung back the other way.

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swung too far. Now the D needs help and a starting 4

[QUOTE]The Jazz added Bojan Bogdanovic and Mike Conley to replace a pair of non outside-shooting starters. They acquired Jordan Clarkson mid-season to add shooting and dynamism to their bench. But once again, this swing brought its own costs and overcorrections. Favors, who had been filling in in most of the backup center minutes behind Gobert in addition to his 10 or so nightly minutes at PF, left for New Orleans. This constituted a big step back for the second-team defense.

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too bad Clarkson can't shoot

[QUOTE]But the pendulum swung too far: offense improvements came at the expense of the the defense. The Gobert-led defense was still phenomenal in the center’s minutes, but the non-Rudy minutes were a disaster on that end. Conley was still adjusting to the team, Donovan was still growing as a player.

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those minutes have never been good despite all the talk of them not losing anything with Favors in

[QUOTE]With that balance finally achieved, another hole became obvious in the Jazz’s series against the LA Clippers: the lack of rotation flexibility prevented the Jazz from stopping the 5-out strategy used in the second-round[URL="https://saltcityhoops.com/the-finally-balanced-jazz-eye-contention-after-years-of-pendulum-swings/#note-1"][SUP]1[/SUP][/URL].

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they had plenty of flexibility. Just didn't have a coach to make the changes needed

[QUOTE]Each season, the problems were identified and addressed. Each time, the team got better and more balanced — even if it wasn’t always immediately clear in the record or postseason outcomes. And each time, the pendulum swing needed to zero in on championship contention was slightly smaller. This time around, they’ll bring back the top seven players from a rotation that produced elite offensive and defensive results, complemented by flexible and versatile end-of-rotation pieces.

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still waiting for them to get a starting 4, a new coach and new 6th man

[url]https://kslsports.com/469900/karl-malone-announces-partnership-with-utah-food-bank/[/url]

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/10/11/utah-jazz-rudy-gobert-working-new-weapon/[/url]

not what they need. Be nice if he could hit the mid range when he has the ball on the dribble hand off or the short hook on occasion. Get him the ball when he has a smaller guy on him for starters

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/10/11/utah-jazz-fifth-best-odds-championship/[/url]

[QUOTE]WynnBet has the Jazzmen’s title odds a +1400, which leaves them behind only the Brooklyn Nets (+225), Los Angeles Lakers (+375), Milwaukee Bucks (+900), and Golden State Warriors (+1000).

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not worried about the Lakers of the Nets

Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Jared Butler has a non-COVID illness and will not play tonight[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]

[url]https://kslsports.com/469925/jazz-starters-look-ready-for-regular-season-vs-pelicans/[/url]

[QUOTE]After proving to be one of the deadliest offensive weapons in the NBA over the last several postseasons, Mitchell hinted that there may still be room to grow on the defensive side of the ball.

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from not playing any D to playing some? Obviously there's room

[QUOTE]“I think he doesn’t realize what you can do defensively if he puts his mind to it,” Gobert said of his All-Star teammate.

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he's never put his mind to it

[QUOTE]It's really hard to replicate what Rudy Gobert does on the floor. Going to take a little time for him to find that rhythm.

— Ben Anderson (@BensHoops) [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops/status/1447742628221517825?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]October 12, 2021[/URL]

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like never?

[QUOTE]“Rudy’s pretty unique,” Snyder said of his superstar center. “Hassan has that same type of length and I think those are plays that I know we want him to make and that he wants to make and is capable of making”

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asking way too much

[QUOTE]Sixth Man of the Year Jordan Clarkson replaced Bogdanovic eight minutes into the game while Eric Paschall subbed in for Mitchell with two and a half minutes left in the opening frame.

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you'd think you might want to play Mitchell and his bff together

[QUOTE]Paschall’s minutes will likely belong to Rudy Gay once he returns from offseason heel surgery, but the former Golden State Warriors forward made the most of his minutes in his first game at Vivint Arena. The third-year forward scored 14 points on 6-7 shooting and was a bench high +15 in 16 minutes for the rehabbing Gay.

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he can score. His shot is ugly. Clarkson is expendable

[QUOTE]The Jazz were without rookie Jared Butler who missed the game due to a non-COVID illness. In his absence, second-year two-way guard Trent Forrest was the Jazz 10th man but had to leave the game after slipping and hitting his head in the first half.

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he looked more like the 9th man and Paschall the 10th. I'm guessing they might play even smaller with Butler