Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=Johnny32;14507448]let's check out the defensive ratings of duh bulls starters in the 96-98 finals. lower is better.
[B]96[/B]
pippen - 103
rodman - 104
harper - 106
mj/longley -107
[B]97[/B]
pippen - 101
rodman - 101
harper - 103
mj/longley - 105
[B]98[/B]
longley - 92
harper - 93
pippen - 97
mj/kukoc - 100 (only kerr had a worse drtg on the entire roster)
summary: mj was tied with longley twice and kukoc once as the worst defensive starter in the 96, 97 and 98 finals.
hurrr, but duh voting results, durrr.[/QUOTE]
Wow, Longley and Harper stepped up their games SO MUCH in 1998.:eek:
Shouldve been co-DPOYs.:bowdown:
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=000;14507881]Wow, Longley and Harper stepped up their games SO MUCH in 1998.:eek:
Shouldve been co-DPOYs.:bowdown:[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;US7VFL9cXTk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US7VFL9cXTk&ab_channel=ABCNewsIn-depth[/video]
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=Johnny32;14507890][video=youtube;US7VFL9cXTk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US7VFL9cXTk&ab_channel=ABCNewsIn-depth[/video][/QUOTE]
Poor guy. One of the forgotten stars of the 90s:(
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=StrongLurk;14507393]Obviously Lebron is better than Wizards Jordan, but that version of Jordan was a total joke. He should've never come back, that was embarrassing.[/QUOTE]
I agree
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14482063]And it's not even close. MJ failed to led the Wizards in the playoffs despite playing with Richard Hamilton and the Kevin Love of his era Christian Laettner in 2001-02, Jerry Stackhouse and Larry Hughes in 2002-03.[/QUOTE]
Wizards also were 14th in ratings to win title in 2002 and 2003 while the Lakers were 2nd this year
[url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2002_preseason_odds.html[/url]
Lakers were 4th in 2019 and didn't even make the playoffs [url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019_preseason_odds.html[/url]
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=Johnny32;14507890][video=youtube;US7VFL9cXTk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US7VFL9cXTk&ab_channel=ABCNewsIn-depth[/video][/QUOTE]
Holy fk thought that was Sam Hyde.
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=000;14507934]Poor guy. One of the forgotten stars of the 90s:([/QUOTE]
He was never a star lol.
He was a pretty good role player though.
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
No doubt Lebron's better, but if we look at Jordan's first year with the Wizards in a vacuum it was pretty impressive. The Wizards started with a completely ass record as Jordan had to play himself back into shape, then got the Wizards coming back to a potential playoff berth with: baby rip hamilton shooting 41%, jahidi white, baby kwame brown, and popeye jones. All while averaging 25 ppg in the toughest defensive climate in NBA history, until he finally was hurt enough to be sidelined. Wizards Jordan gets shit on a lot because it's Michael Jordan, but he was still a franchise player. He'd be even better in the current league with the modern load management culture and less physicality. Imagine MJ in a league where the biggest guy on the court on a nightly basis is about Draymond Green's size, and defenses are designed to give up the mid range.
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
Funny fact. Pre injury 2002 jordan had his team #2 in the east while his right hand man missed alot games
Lebron has led hls team to..... #9? Lol
Empty stats are overrated
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=2much_knowledge;14529510]Funny fact. Pre injury 2002 jordan had his team #2 in the east while his right hand man missed alot games
Lebron has led hls team to..... #9? Lol
Empty stats are overrated[/QUOTE]
and Jordan still missed the playoffs in 2002 despite playing 60 games
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14529515]and Jordan still missed the playoffs in 2002 despite playing 60 games[/QUOTE]
Go to youtube. Search the FREE documentary. Jordan: the wizard years and skip it to the last 10 - 5 minutes with a black screen with white text
You might learn something there
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=2much_knowledge;14529526]Go to youtube. Search the FREE documentary. Jordan: the wizard years and skip it to the last 10 - 5 minutes with a black screen with white text
You might learn something there[/QUOTE]
And he also played in the weakest era in eastern conference history were teams like the Sixers and Nets advanced in the NBA Finals.
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
[QUOTE=2much_knowledge;14529510]Funny fact. Pre injury 2002 jordan had his team #2 in the east while his right hand man missed alot games
Lebron has led hls team to..... #9? Lol
Empty stats are overrated[/QUOTE]
This is true too. And plays with way, way superior talent. I mean Anthony Davis is the 3rd best player of all time according to PER. Trailing only LeBron, and the GOAT, Jordan.
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
Lebron is so much better it's not even close. Jordan also missed the playoffs in the Leastern Conference.
Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan
it's crazy how much better legoat is than mj and kobe at similar ages.
lebron at 37 - [B]29 ppg on 61 ts%[/B], [B]8 rpg, 6 apg, 1.6 spg, 1.0 bpg[/B]
jordone at 38 - 23 ppg on 47 ts%, 6 rpg, 5 apg, 1.4 spg, 0.4 bpg
chuckobe at 37 - 18 ppg on 47 ts%, 4 rpg, 3 apg, 0.9 spg, 0.2 bpg
