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[QUOTE=RRR3;14646545]He had a 1.8 BPM. No one the Lakers besides LeBron, Davis or Sekou Doumboya (who played 16 total minutes) even had a 0.0 BPM, everyone else was negative :lol
Are you acting like Malik Monk wasn't considered a complete ****ing scrub before he played with LeBron? Dude couldn't get time on the ****ing Hornets :yaohappy:[/QUOTE]
Are you acting like the 2002 Wizards weren't also complete scrubs? :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=theman93;14646547]2022 Westbrick had a higher TS% than Hamilton did in 02. Hamilton also had a worse DBPM than 2022 Westbrick. Remind me how great Hamilton was again in 02? Rofllllllllllllll[/QUOTE]
Did he have a worse TS% relative to the league average? Not even close he was only a little below league average while Westbrook was massively below league average. DPBM has been criticized by its own creators as inaccurate, and both Hamilton and Whitney good OBPMs.
Coach thinking that 33 y.o. WB is the same as prime WB is hilarious af.
[QUOTE=theman93;14646547]2022 Westbrick had a higher TS% than Hamilton did in 02. Hamilton also had a worse DBPM than 2022 Westbrick. Remind me how great Hamilton was again in 02? Rofllllllllllllll[/QUOTE]
Only one problem there, Westbrook had a 51.2 TS%, when league average TS% was 56.6
Rip had a 51.1 TS% when league average was 52%.
So Rip was around league average while Westbrook was well below league average.
Try again.
[QUOTE=theman93;14646550]Are you acting like the 2002 Wizards weren't also complete scrubs? :roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]
Like 1987 said, "By your logic, '09 & '10 LeBron > '88 & '89 MJ since LeBron led his team to a better record without having much of a cast."
The concept of team record completely reflecting a player's value is one championed by feeble minded people.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14646555]Only one problem there, Westbrook had a 51.2 TS%, when league average TS% was 56.6
Rip had a 51.1 TS% when league average was 52%.
So Rip was around league average while Westbrook was well below league average.
Try again.[/QUOTE]
He's extremely dimwitted.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14646546]Bad fits. Westbrook ruined the team. Vogel was a terrible offensive coach, Melo was atrocious on defense etc.
By your logic, '09 & '10 LeBron > '88 & '89 MJ since LeBron led his team to a better record without having much of a cast.[/QUOTE]
Doug Collins was also not a good coach. The 02 Wizards also were bad fits. They also had atrocious defenders. Every excuse for Lebron in 2022 Jordan has in 2002.
As for 09/10 Lebron vs 88/89 MJ, they were close. However 02 MJ and 22 Lebron allegedly aren't close at all. Yet somehow MJ did more with less while being a worse player. :lol
[QUOTE=RRR3;14646556]Like 1987 said, "By your logic, '09 & '10 LeBron > '88 & '89 MJ since LeBron led his team to a better record without having much of a cast."
The concept of team record completely reflecting a player's value is one championed by feeble minded people.[/QUOTE]
Lebron had Ben Wallace who won as the only allstar on the team that won it all and was a 3x DPOY. He had Shaq who had 3x finals mvp's and a league mvp. Both times lost with HCA.
MJ hadn't had someone who won league mvp or finals mvp or DPOY.
[QUOTE=theman93;14646559]Doug Collins was also not a good coach.[/QUOTE]
Lmao maybe you should try telling 3ball that. :kobe:
[QUOTE=theman93;14646559]Doug Collins was also not a good coach. The 02 Wizards also were bad fits. They also had atrocious defenders. Every excuse for Lebron in 2022 Jordan has in 2002.
[B]As for 09/10 Lebron vs 88/89 MJ, they were close[/B]. However 02 MJ and 22 Lebron allegedly aren't close at all. Yet somehow MJ did more with less while being a worse player. :lol[/QUOTE]
They're close even though LeBron won way more games with a similar cast? By your own logic LeBron was easily better.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14646538]That version of MJ couldn't even beat a random dude in 1 on 1.
[video=youtube;5B7U74Dg04k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B7U74Dg04k&t[/video]
LeBron in his exhibition game was dropping 40+ vs much better players than John Rogers. :lol
[video=youtube;CAJ8hY84_S8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAJ8hY84_S8[/video][/QUOTE]
LMAO pulling desperation card like this is funny as sh*t
[QUOTE=theman93;14646547]2022 Westbrick had a higher TS% than Hamilton did in 02. Hamilton also had a worse DBPM than 2022 Westbrick. Remind me how great Hamilton was again in 02? Rofllllllllllllll[/QUOTE]
wonderful! I wouldn't want him on my team anyway. The fact that anyone thought he was a good idea on the Lakers is hilarious! Who said Hamilton was great?
[QUOTE=theman93;14646559]Doug Collins was also not a good coach. The 02 Wizards also were bad fits. They also had atrocious defenders. Every excuse for Lebron in 2022 Jordan has in 2002.
[B]As for 09/10 Lebron vs 88/89 MJ, they were close.[/B] However 02 MJ and 22 Lebron allegedly aren't close at all. Yet somehow MJ did more with less while being a worse player. :lol[/QUOTE]
No, by your logic LeBron was clearly superior. :lol
And next time adjust for league average TS% if you want to compare that stat across eras without looking clueless.
You're welcome
Lebron had Ben Wallace who won as the only allstar on the team that won it all and was a 3x DPOY. He had Shaq who had 3x finals mvp's and a league mvp. Both times lost with HCA.
MJ hadn't had someone who won league mvp or finals mvp or DPOY nor HCA.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14646569]No, by your logic LeBron was clearly superior. :lol
And next time adjust for league average TS% if you want to compare that stat across eras without looking clueless.
You're welcome[/QUOTE]
Haters are generally incapable of consistency.