Re: Verdict is in: Jordan STILL consensus GOAT
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14734016]You’re trying to argue with literally the most blatant troll on the forum :lol[/QUOTE]
I know but I'm curious as to whether there is any actual basketball discussion there or does he really just post walls of nonsensical junk?
Re: Verdict is in: Jordan STILL consensus GOAT
[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;14734148]I know but I'm curious as to whether there is any actual basketball discussion there or does he really just post walls of nonsensical junk?[/QUOTE]the dumb part is Jordan has a great case for goat, but ppl decide to just troll instead. Highest playoff +/-, highest playoff per, highest playoff ppg, 6fmvp, 10 scoring titles, 5 reg season mvp’s, dpoy and countless all nba 1st team and def 1st team selections. That’s a goat resume.
Re: Verdict is in: Jordan STILL consensus GOAT
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14733907]Magic, Bird, Duncan, Shaq, Kobe are better as well. They all at least won 3 titles for one franchise.[/QUOTE]
Kobe only won 2 for LA..... try to keep up.
Re: Verdict is in: Jordan STILL consensus GOAT
OP citing a forum he'd literally get banned from. Lol. That's actually pretty funny
Re: Verdict is in: Jordan STILL consensus GOAT
[QUOTE=hateraid;14734171]OP citing a forum he'd literally get banned from. Lol. That's actually pretty funny[/QUOTE]
:roll:
Re: Verdict is in: Jordan STILL consensus GOAT
[QUOTE=j3lademaster;14734149]the dumb part is Jordan has a great case for goat, but ppl decide to just troll instead. Highest playoff +/-, highest playoff per, highest playoff ppg, 6fmvp, 10 scoring titles, 5 reg season mvp’s, dpoy and countless all nba 1st team and def 1st team selections. That’s a goat resume.[/QUOTE]
I agree, his case is great and as an Mj fan it kinda annoys me to watch them twist these convoluted narratives when the real truth is very simple with Mj.
Re: Verdict is in: Jordan STILL consensus GOAT
[QUOTE=hateraid;14734171]OP citing a forum he'd literally get banned from. Lol. That's actually pretty funny[/QUOTE]
Wait, what? :lol shouldn't even be surprised by that. Full Dork fits the description.
Re: Verdict is in: Jordan STILL consensus GOAT
[QUOTE=zeerghit;14731762]so you agree hes 2nd best player ever?[/QUOTE]
This is my opinion but it's probably among the more substance-based GOAT rankings that you will see anywhere.
Given similar talent, certain player types are superior to others - history shows that the best expert jumpshooters and centers had better teammate fits, development, and chemistry, so they needed less help to win and had higher team ceilings/Finals records than the best ball-dominators.
So the best expert jumpshooters > the best centers > the best ball-dominators (based on who won with less)..
So it's MJ, Kobe, Bird, Curry, Russell, Wilt, KAJ, Duncan, Shaq, Magic, Lebron... KD could leapfrog a bunch of people to #5 with a couple more FMVP's
Re: Verdict is in: Jordan STILL consensus GOAT
[QUOTE=3ba11;14734190]This is my opinion but it's probably among the more substance-based GOAT rankings that you will see anywhere.
Given similar talent, certain player types are superior to others - history shows that the best expert jumpshooters and centers had better teammate fits, development, and chemistry, so they needed less help to win and had higher team ceilings/Finals records than the best ball-dominators.
So the best expert jumpshooters > the best centers > the best ball-dominators (based on who won with less)..
So it's MJ, Kobe, Bird, Curry, Russell, Wilt, KAJ, Duncan, Shaq, Magic, Lebron... KD could leapfrog a bunch of people to #5 with a couple more FMVP's[/QUOTE]
I need some of that shit you smoking.:lol
Re: Verdict is in: Jordan STILL consensus GOAT
[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;14734192]I need some of that shit you smoking.:lol[/QUOTE]
MTF from kynd.. best sativa in vegas and i get from the source
Regardless of whether you agree with my rationale, 20 years of longevity confirmed that Lebron can't have a dynasty, 3-peat or 6 chips with [U]ANY LINEUP[/U], aka objectively inferior to MJ
this is confirmed the longer he plays - his longevity confirms his vast inferiority compared to the modern GOAT standard...
he'll be 1/4 with AD this year, just like 1/4 with Love and 1/4 with Wade except the Allen miracle.. So he's a 1/4 guy regardless of who you put around him.. he literally isn't capable of the GOAT standard regardless of cast, aka objectively inferior to MJ
Re: Verdict is in: Jordan STILL consensus GOAT
[QUOTE=3ba11;14734190]This is my opinion but it's probably among the more substance-based GOAT rankings that you will see anywhere.
Given similar talent, certain player types are superior to others - history shows that the best expert jumpshooters and centers had better teammate fits, development, and chemistry, so they needed less help to win and had higher team ceilings/Finals records than the best ball-dominators.
So the best expert jumpshooters > the best centers > the best ball-dominators (based on who won with less)..
So it's MJ, Kobe, Bird, Curry, Russell, Wilt, KAJ, Duncan, Shaq, Magic, Lebron... KD could leapfrog a bunch of people to #5 with a couple more FMVP's[/QUOTE]
Lol, another poster validating the site that banned him :oldlol:
Re: Verdict is in: Jordan STILL consensus GOAT
Nothing leBron can do. Even if he won two more titles, MJ would still hold the crown.
Even Michael saying Lebron is the goat for 100million for Nike, won't make Lebron the GOAT.
Re: Verdict is in: Jordan STILL consensus GOAT
[QUOTE=3ba11;14734200]MTF from kynd.. best sativa in vegas and i get from the source
Regardless of whether you agree with my rationale, 20 years of longevity confirmed that Lebron can't have a dynasty, 3-peat or 6 chips with [U]ANY LINEUP[/U], aka objectively inferior to MJ
this is confirmed the longer he plays - his longevity confirms his vast inferiority compared to the modern GOAT standard...
he'll be 1/4 with AD this year, just like 1/4 with Love and 1/4 with Wade except the Allen miracle.. So he's a 1/4 guy regardless of who you put around him.. he literally isn't capable of the GOAT standard regardless of cast, aka objectively inferior to MJ[/QUOTE]
Agreed on all points, and intrigued on the 1st.
Shame Jeff don't have DM's for us lol.
Who ruined DM's jeff ?
Re: Verdict is in: Jordan STILL consensus GOAT
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;14734160]Kobe only won 2 for LA..... try to keep up.[/QUOTE]
Kobe won 5 titles in LA.
Re: Verdict is in: Jordan STILL consensus GOAT
[QUOTE=BarberSchool;14734293]Agreed on all points, and intrigued on the 1st.
Shame Jeff don't have DM's for us lol.
Who ruined DM's jeff ?[/QUOTE]
pedo jameer and his friends tried making some shit knockoff website and was using dm’s to advertise. same reason why the rep system got removed too