Dems absolutely SUCK on immigration. Released Haitians terrorize Ohio town

[QUOTE=tontoz;14943293]Since there are 20k of them doesn't it stand to reason that there would be an increase in crimes that don't involve animals?

:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Funny Mr. Animal welfare isn't outraged about this: [url]https://www.salon.com/2022/05/23/jr-part-of-illegal-poaching-scandal_partner/[/url]

[QUOTE=tontoz;14943293]Since there are 20k of them doesn't it stand to reason that there would be an increase in crimes that don't involve animals?

:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

For sure, and like I said you should go look it up.

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14943296]For sure, and like I said you should go look it up.[/QUOTE]



I already did. As I suspected there was nothing there otherwise it would surely be all over the news by now.

Funny how there is a police report about a goose getting killed but no reports off all the dogs and cats being killed.

I guess the Haitians only turn on stealth mode when they are hunting pets.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14943297]I already did. As I suspected there was nothing there otherwise it would surely be all over the news by now.

Funny how there is a police report about a goose getting killed but no reports off all the dogs and cats being killed.

I guess the Haitians only turn on stealth mode when they are hunting pets.[/QUOTE]

Wasn't there a guy in that long YT report who said he'd seen Haitians in white van picking up cats? The interviewer should've asked him why he didn't report it to the police if true, the same way he should have asked the Haitians who said they came there "just because of job openings", if it wasn't in corporation with some specific NGO since 20.000 ended up in one specific city.

I think the media and city officials would do anything to keep information about disappearing cats in Springfield out of the news, a confirmation of it would put them all in a very bad light and help Trump.

You think it's nice that Haitians are killing geese and ducks at parks in Springfield?

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14943299]Wasn't there a guy in that long YT report who said he'd seen Haitians in white van picking up cats? The interviewer should've asked him why he didn't report it to the police if true, the same way he should have asked the Haitians who said they came there "just because of job openings", if it wasn't in corporation with some specific NGO since 20.000 ended up in one specific city.

I think the media and city officials would do anything to keep information about disappearing cats in Springfield out of the news, a confirmation of it would put them all in a very bad light and help Trump.

You think it's nice that Haitians are killing geese and ducks at parks in Springfield?[/QUOTE]


How exactly was the guy in the van " picking up cats"?
Was he wandering around saying 'here kitty, kitty'?

Why don't you try catching a cat outside sometime. Just getting within a step of one is a major challenge. Actually grabbing a cat who doesn't want to be caught is next to impossible for one person unless they just shoot the cat.

A cats reaction time is scary fast. They can stand nose to nose with a snake without getting bit because they are so quick.

You only mentioned one police report about a goose. Is there one about a duck too?

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[QUOTE=tontoz;14943302]How exactly was the guy in the van " picking up cats"?
Was he wandering around saying 'here kitty, kitty'?

Why don't you try catching a cat outside sometime. Just getting within a step of one is a major challenge. Actually grabbing a cat who doesn't want to be caught is next to impossible for one person unless they just shoot the cat.

A cats reaction time is scary fast. They can stand nose to nose with a snake without getting bit because they are so quick.

You only mentioned one police report about a goose. Is there one about a duck too?[/QUOTE]

How exactly did like 0.2% of the Haitian population end up in one specifc rural American town? Were there jobs for all of them?

So the guy in the video actually said he'd seen the van get pulled over by police and they said to cops it was for eating, but instead of asking me questions about this man I think you should look him up yourself, I wouldn't know any more about the guy or why he'd be lying than you.

Multiple people have said in the townhalls about Haitians eating ducks, but I guess you think they're lying and you have some sort of mental block keeping you from saying anything negative about the Haitians.
So here you go, a woman explaining exactly how Haitians were chasing her ducks on her property:
[URL="https://x.com/Ediswatching1/status/1834757012942450848"]https://x.com/Ediswatching1/status/1834757012942450848[/URL]

People on the left seem to take this thing maybe a bit too personal as seen at Walz's last rally :oldlol:

[video=youtube_share;LA0DiEcqcFw]https://youtu.be/LA0DiEcqcFw[/video]

I've lived in a city with many stray cats who were fed by locals and I know it's a mix of whether or not some of them will let you get close enough to touch, especially if you have food.
As for catching a stray cat who doesn't want to get close to you, I dunno maybe just start putting food out around your house, or put a bit of sardines in the same bushy area for a couple of days and on the 3rd day put it in a trap - I'm sure that people who's eaten cats since childhood would know some tricks.

Or just try the "here kitty kitty kitty"...

Here's a whole YT channel with people doing the impossible and getting close to stray cats: [URL="https://www.youtube.com/@straypawsclip/videos"]https://www.youtube.com/@straypawsclip/videos[/URL]

[video=youtube_share;ad25P7Nlf2I]https://youtu.be/ad25P7Nlf2I[/video]

[video=youtube_share;CTsSd-I_Qg0]https://youtu.be/CTsSd-I_Qg0[/video]

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14942120]And there’s no way Democrats will subscribe to mass deportations. It goes against EVERYTHING they believe in. They’re giving illegals free room and board now so there’s no way they’ll reverse course and deport anyone. This is why, people that don’t like Trump need to put their pride and ego aside and vote him in. I think there’s a large contingent of people who are so brainwashed and blinded into hating Trump that they don’t see the entire country burning all around them.[/QUOTE]

Here's your mostake: You believe Trump or the GOP are different.

What does conservative mean? You think it's about conserving the pure american people?

The conservativism post Reagan/Thatcher is about keeping wealth first and foremost - not values - and the easiest way to keep and accumulate wealth is by having a big gap between rich and poor and give off the illusion that anyone can get rich if they try hard enough.

What's the easiest way to have rampant poverty? And influx of poor, unqualified foreigners that can't even speak the language. It's not accidental that throughout the last decades immigration never really went down under conservative or more right wing governments and in some cases even rises and spikes happened - doesn't matter if US or Europe. None of them has a strong interest in keeping poverty out, they just make you believe that and you're falling for it.

Falling for lies by a conman who was born with 400M to his name, who never worked a day in his life. Is friends with most of the elites you think you're voting against and won't do shit against illegal immigration. All he'll do is stuff the pockets of his family and friends.

Not saying Kamala will do better. It's more of the same. The voting process in the US will never allow a true people's candidate even if you believe Trump is.

republicans - "try that in a small town"

democrats - import ~15k hatians into a small town

republicans - "wtf not fair they're eating muh cats and ducks"

Its funny that the dems, who are supposedly pro labor, are the ones supporting this insane immigration policy.

It has been almost 20 years since the federal minimum wage increased in this country... meanwhile the cost of simply surviving in this country has skyrocketed in the past 4 years alone. American politicians (both republicans and democrats, but especially democrats) have decided that instead of calling for higher wages for working class americans, its better to import a new working class that is willing to take pennies on the dollar for their labor.

Lots of people are talking about replacement theories, but imho the reality of the situation is far more simple - ultimately its all about corporate profits and keeping wages down. Hatian "immigrants" or "refugees" or "newcomers" or whatever the fvck the PC term is for them this week will gladly accept the federal minimum 7.25/hour for hard labor jobs that would normally cost $20-25/hr to employ a native born american... the only reason these hatians are able to take these min wage jobs is because their housing and expenses are being massively subsidized by the taxpayers they are replacing

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14943352]How exactly did like 0.2% of the Haitian population end up in one specifc rural American town? Were there jobs for all of them?

So the guy in the video actually said he'd seen the van get pulled over by police and they said to cops it was for eating, but instead of asking me questions about this man I think you should look him up yourself, I wouldn't know any more about the guy or why he'd be lying than you.

Multiple people have said in the townhalls about Haitians eating ducks, but I guess you think they're lying and you have some sort of mental block keeping you from saying anything negative about the Haitians.
So here you go, a woman explaining exactly how Haitians were chasing her ducks on her property:
[URL="https://x.com/Ediswatching1/status/1834757012942450848"]https://x.com/Ediswatching1/status/1834757012942450848[/URL]

People on the left seem to take this thing maybe a bit too personal as seen at Walz's last rally :oldlol:

[video=youtube_share;LA0DiEcqcFw]https://youtu.be/LA0DiEcqcFw[/video]

I've lived in a city with many stray cats who were fed by locals and I know it's a mix of whether or not some of them will let you get close enough to touch, especially if you have food.
As for catching a stray cat who doesn't want to get close to you, I dunno maybe just start putting food out around your house, or put a bit of sardines in the same bushy area for a couple of days and on the 3rd day put it in a trap - I'm sure that people who's eaten cats since childhood would know some tricks.

Or just try the "here kitty kitty kitty"...

Here's a whole YT channel with people doing the impossible and getting close to stray cats: [URL="https://www.youtube.com/@straypawsclip/videos"]https://www.youtube.com/@straypawsclip/videos[/URL]

[video=youtube_share;ad25P7Nlf2I]https://youtu.be/ad25P7Nlf2I[/video]

[video=youtube_share;CTsSd-I_Qg0]https://youtu.be/CTsSd-I_Qg0[/video][/QUOTE]



So they were chasing ducks but couldn't catch them. Why is that? Ducks are slow compared to cats so it should have been no problem.

Did she file trespassing charges? Does she have a phone with a camera? If so why didn't she use it?
I thought the Haitians were eating peoples pets. So were they pets, which are pretty well fed and aren't looking for food? Or were they strays? Make up your mind.

I am sure stray cats can be conditioned over time with food but I used to feed stray cats and they never let me near them.

Starving newborn kittens at the side of the road are a different story

[QUOTE=Nanners;14943378]Its funny that the dems, who are supposedly pro labor, are the ones supporting this insane immigration policy.

It has been almost 20 years since the federal minimum wage increased in this country... meanwhile the cost of simply surviving in this country has skyrocketed in the past 4 years alone. American politicians (both republicans and democrats, but especially democrats) have decided that instead of calling for higher wages for working class americans, its better to import a new working class that is willing to take pennies on the dollar for their labor.

Lots of people are talking about replacement theories, but imho the reality of the situation is far more simple - ultimately its all about corporate profits and keeping wages down. Hatian "immigrants" or "refugees" or "newcomers" or whatever the fvck the PC term is for them this week will gladly accept the federal minimum 7.25/hour for hard labor jobs that would normally cost $20-25/hr to employ a native born american... the only reason these hatians are able to take these min wage jobs is because their housing and expenses are being massively subsidized by the taxpayers they are replacing[/QUOTE]

Good post.

What was happening in Springfield before the immigrants started arriving? The population was declining and businesses were leaving.

There have been several vids interviewing locals. How many young people do you see?

The town was dying.

[QUOTE=Nanners;14943378]Its funny that the dems, who are supposedly pro labor, are the ones supporting this insane immigration policy.

It has been almost 20 years since the federal minimum wage increased in this country... meanwhile the cost of simply surviving in this country has skyrocketed in the past 4 years alone. American politicians (both republicans and democrats, but especially democrats) have decided that instead of calling for higher wages for working class americans, its better to import a new working class that is willing to take pennies on the dollar for their labor.

Lots of people are talking about replacement theories, but imho the reality of the situation is far more simple - ultimately its all about corporate profits and keeping wages down. Hatian "immigrants" or "refugees" or "newcomers" or whatever the fvck the PC term is for them this week will gladly accept the federal minimum 7.25/hour for hard labor jobs that would normally cost $20-25/hr to employ a native born american... the only reason these hatians are able to take these min wage jobs is because their housing and expenses are being massively subsidized by the taxpayers they are replacing[/QUOTE]

That's exactly the essence of my post. Neither the dems under the guise of liberalism nor the GOP under their america first fiscal con guise are anything but corporate servants. If anyone believes Trump or Harris are different then they're gullible idiots.

And as I said that's also the point why conservative governments also don't do shit about immigration. When asked why numbers don't change they'll tell you they didn't have enough time yet. After 4 years or in my country's case 5 years they're asked again and just tell you they didn't have enough time yet and faced other crisis. Come election time it's topic #1 again.

[QUOTE=Overdrive;14943407]That's exactly the essence of my post. Neither the dems under the guise of liberalism nor the GOP under their america first fiscal con guise are anything but corporate servants. If anyone believes Trump or Harris are different then they're gullible idiots.

And as I said that's also the point why conservative governments also don't do shit about immigration. When asked why numbers don't change they'll tell you they didn't have enough time yet. After 4 years or in my country's case 5 years they're asked again and just tell you they didn't have enough time yet and faced other crisis. Come election time it's topic #1 again.[/QUOTE]

you are spot on

ultimately this immigration stuff has nothing to do with left vs right or blue vs red, its all about top vs bottom and the only color that matters is green.