Trouble in paradise? Musk slams Trump's "big beautiful bill"

[QUOTE=highwhey;15012341]classic long duck dong logic..."let me oversimplify something someone else said to prove them wrong". false equivalancy.

the difference between this admin and most traditional administrations are the people crossing party lines/divisions to join him. in other words, they are people unqualified, isolated, pulled from the basement, have zero in common with trump all because the traditional republicans aren't going to be 'yes men' to the same degree as a jd vance, gabbard, rfk will. there's a reason these people are pulled from the fringes of the political space.[/QUOTE]

Wtf do you mean traditional republicans? Do you live under a rock? Do you live in a shack with no windows and no wifi? Trump has defined the party for close to a decade now. The "traditional republicans" were booted a long time ago.

So Brandon's picks were qualified? The Cackler was qualified? Bootygig was qualified? :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Baller234;15012343]Wtf do you mean traditional republicans? Do you live under a rock? Do you live in a shack with no windows and no wifi? Trump has defined the party for close to a decade now. The "traditional republicans" were booted a long time ago.

So Brandon's picks were qualified? The Cackler was qualified? Bootygig was qualified? :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

this headline encompasses most of trump's appointees in a nutshell:

[QUOTE]“The Intern in Charge”: Meet the 22-Year-Old Trump’s Team Picked to Lead Terrorism Prevention
One year out of college and with no apparent national security expertise, Thomas Fugate is the Department of Homeland Security official tasked with overseeing the government’s main hub for combating violent extremism.
by Hannah Allam[/QUOTE]

nothing you say will change those fax. crawl back into your sniper's nest.

[QUOTE=highwhey;15012345]this headline encompasses most of trump's appointees in a nutshell:



nothing you say will change those fax. crawl back into your sniper's nest.[/QUOTE]

So you think Brandon's administration featured only the best and brightest and not just those who were entangled politically?

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Baller234;15012346]So you think Brandon's administration featured only the best and brightest and not just those who were entangled politically?

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

The Biden administration was low IQ as highweight is.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15012331]Let's assume this is all real and not some charade, it still wouldn't justify Elon's behavior. He's free to voice his dissent over the bill and criticize Trump,[B] but for him to take it to the extreme like this and a make a huge show of it?[/B] To go full on crazy and try to divide the base? Epstein accusations? How does that help matters? If what you're saying is true you look like an asshole too. He could have gone about this in a much more measured way. His over the top antics make him appear less credible.

Also, Trump must have known that if he ever crossed Elon it could come back to bite him. Especially if he was implicated in any Epstein stuff and Elon had access. Say what you will about Trump but he is smart about picking his battles. When he picks a fight it is usually because he intends to win. For him to make such a strong enemy out of Elon like this, knowing full well Elon has knowledge that could end him for good, that doesn't sound like Trump to me.

Of course I could be wrong. I've already been wrong. But this turn of events is so strange I have to be honest... I'm halfway convinced this is a show. And if it's not, I'll just say Elon is acting very strange. Regardless if there are issues with the bill.[/QUOTE]

Haven't read the rest of the thread yet, just getting my way through the recent pages but...this is fvcking rich coming from a Trump guy, I have to say.

Are you really saying criticize a dude spewing mean words and accusations? Really??

I'm not chewing on this like some would (aside from the hilarity of course). But come on now...

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15012351]Haven't read the rest of the thread yet, just getting my way through the recent pages but...this is fvcking rich coming from a Trump guy, I have to say.

Are you really saying criticize a dude spewing mean words and accusations? Really??

I'm not chewing on this like some would (aside from the hilarity of course). But come on now...[/QUOTE]

low self awareness is a common trait among MAGA fakkits...as i said, elon is doing the exact same thing trump has been doing for years and yet his supporters are butthurt about it :oldlol:

When a figure involved in politics suddenly appears with a black eye, followed by a complete change in something, then you have to be very suspicious.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15012350]The Biden administration was low IQ as highweight is.[/QUOTE]

Quit pretending that intelligence is a trait admired by MAGA.

doomsy how did you not see this all coming bro?

[QUOTE=diamenz;15012399]doomsy how did you not see this all coming bro?[/QUOTE]


I saw this a mile away....


It's the Antichrist and False Prophet bro.... anything is possible with those two.

I'll admit... for a second DOGE threw me off...

I thought maybe Trump really was trying to balance shit out with the budget...

but Conservatives are never Conservative when it comes to spending... we've known this for awhile now.

"Trump says mean words all the time..."

Yea, at his [B]enemies[/B]. When he's being attacked or forced to go on the offensive. Musk and Trump are supposed to be friends.

If it's really just a bill you're worried about and you wanted to have a rational discussion in the hopes of reaching an arrangement, and you just want what's best for the country... you don't go about it like this. That's not how you settle a disagreement with your friends. You're the one who backed his campaign and propped this guy up as a savior in the first place.

In short, when parents are about get divorced, they're not supposed to fight in front of the kids.

The change in attitude is too noticeable and it calls his motivation into question.

[QUOTE=jstern;15012358]When a figure involved in politics suddenly appears with a black eye, followed by a complete change in something, then you have to be very suspicious.[/QUOTE]

Can you elaborate? Are you inferring he might have been physically threatened or that he joined the cult.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15012407]

In short, when parents are about get divorced, they're not supposed to fight in front of the kids.

The change in attitude is too noticeable and it calls his motivation into question.[/QUOTE]


It makes Elon look worse... but now that he's brought up Epstein... I want to know more about that.

[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15012410]It makes Elon look worse... but now that he's brought up Epstein... I want to know more about that.[/QUOTE]

Well since he seems to know so much, why doesn't Elon himself come out and tell us?