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[QUOTE=brownmamba00]I used to love the Kobe vs Tmac match-ups. It was far more exciting then Bron vs Kobe, Wade vs Bron, Kobe vs Wade, etc...[/QUOTE]
I remember Phil saying that Tmac was great after that game.. He was a great one but his back really took away alot of his explosion even before he went over to Houston ..
[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]I remember Phil saying that Tmac was great after that game.. He was a great one but his back really took away alot of his explosion even before he went over to Houston ..[/QUOTE]
Yeah it's a shame really. One of the best scorers who ever played the game nonetheless.
[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]LOL ... not that serious. A lot of these moves can be subjective depending on how tight you wanna get on the rule book. I believe if it's not an OBNOXIOUS travel ... let these boys cook.[/QUOTE]
Being a fan of the game I want to know if that is a travel or not.. Obviously nothing about bball is serious but it is something that should be cleared..
[QUOTE=DixieNourmous]This is GOAT footwork....
[IMG]http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv50/BigM211/CrabDribble.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
:applause: :bowdown: :roll:
[QUOTE=Fatal9]the other master...
[IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/2nqed4z.jpg[/IMG]
just your center facing up from the three point line and faking the hell out of the defenders to split a double team[/QUOTE]
definately a travel...his pivot foot left the floor before he jumped...after a move like that he must jump off of either both feet or off of his pivot foot
[QUOTE=I.R.Beast]definately a travel...his pivot foot left the floor before he jumped...after a move like that he must jump off of either both feet or off of his pivot foot[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
[QUOTE=Fatal9]if you're gonna post don't make it more than one gif at a time, do not want the page to take forever to load because of a billion gifs. basically a footwork appreciation thread.
let me start off with the master:
[IMG]http://s3.tinypic.com/1zey54x_th.jpg[/IMG]
practiced this move all last summer with mild success.[/QUOTE]
Great move if you can do it without the travel as depicted in the gif...
[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]I know ... let it go, bro. By the way, that wasn't even close to a travel when McGrady shook Bryant with the fake spin move.[/QUOTE]
You didn't see the white text did you? :D
Sticky This thread its great
[QUOTE=Phong]Basketball traveling rules: [URL="http://vimeo.com/395653"]http://vimeo.com/395653[/URL]
Starting at 5:45 you have two detailed plays where the players established their pivot foot, then jumped off the other one to release a shot. Both shots are considered legal.
[img]http://nsa27.casimages.com/img/2011/06/27/110627070832767311.jpg[/img]
[img]http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/06/27/11062707085249475.gif[/img] [img]http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/06/27/110627070917308011.gif[/img]
Assuming the rules regarding the pivot foot are the same between the NBA and FIBA, Kobe's play is totally legal.
[img]http://nsa24.casimages.com/img/2010/10/20/101020073017274536.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
Ya fucccking serious? How long ya gonna chat about something this EZ.
They are travels Because they dribble stop and lift his piv foot before the other foot THAT is why its a travel. You can NOT lift ur piv foot before the other foot is in the air or at the same time.
Simple as that.
[QUOTE=ZaaaaaH]Ya fucccking serious? How long ya gonna chat about something this EZ.
They are travels Because they dribble stop and lift his piv foot before the other foot THAT is why its a travel. You can NOT lift ur piv foot before the other foot is in the air or at the same time.
Simple as that.[/QUOTE]
show me the rule.
[QUOTE=ZaaaaaH] You can NOT lift ur piv foot before the other foot is in the air or at the same time.[/QUOTE]Where does it say so in the rule book?
IGOTGAME provided a few videos showing how to learn the move. I posted a video made for basketball officials and describing in detail what is legal and what is not.
What do you have to back up your opinion?
[QUOTE=N0Skillz]show me the rule.[/QUOTE]
How many times do I have to own ya kids who never even picked up a basketball.
[url]http://www.coachesclipboard.net/Footwork.html[/url]
Fucccking kids leagues know this shiiit
READ
[IMG]http://www.gifsoup.com/view7/2656763/dirk-dancing-o.gif[/IMG]
[QUOTE=ZaaaaaH]How many times do I have to own ya kids who never even picked up a basketball.
[url]http://www.coachesclipboard.net/Footwork.html[/url]
Fucccking kids leagues know this shiiit
READ[/QUOTE]Moron, the traveling rules in your little webpage is the same text that's available on the NBA page. And again it says absolutely nothing about having to jump off two feet or off your pivot foot. :facepalm
What is says:
[QUOTE]3. After coming to a stop and establishing a pivot foot:
a. The pivot foot may be lifted, but not returned to the floor, before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal;
b. If the player jumps, neither foot may be returned to the floor before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal;[/QUOTE]
Which is exactly what the video I posted says:
[IMG]http://nsa27.casimages.com/img/2011/06/27/110627070832767311.jpg[/IMG]
So where does it say you have to jump off your pivot foot or both feet?
[QUOTE=ZaaaaaH]How many times do I have to own ya kids who never even picked up a basketball.
[url]http://www.coachesclipboard.net/Footwork.html[/url]
Fucccking kids leagues know this shiiit
READ[/QUOTE]
From your own ****ing website.
3. After coming to a stop and establishing a pivot foot:
a. The pivot foot may be lifted, but not returned to the floor, before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal;
b. If the player jumps, neither foot may be returned to the floor before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal;
[B]
Your a ****ing moron that has never played basketball.[/B]
ITT we argue about every gif and whether it's a travel or not. :facepalm
[QUOTE=N0Skillz]From your own ****ing website.
3. After coming to a stop and establishing a pivot foot:
a. The pivot foot may be lifted, but not returned to the floor, before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal;
b. If the player jumps, neither foot may be returned to the floor before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal;
[B]
Your a ****ing moron that has never played basketball.[/B][/QUOTE]
AMAZING HOW DUMB FUCCCKING THESE TWO Are.
NO SHIIIT YOU FUCCCCK THAT IS THE FUCCCKING RULES and if you watch the CLIP they BOTH LIFT UP there PIV FOOT BEFORE The OTHER FOOT you ****S.
PIV FOOT CAN NOT BE LIFTED BEFORE THE OTHER FOOT YOU ****ING RETARDS because ITS UR FUCCCKING PIV FOOT. WOW AMAZING HOW THESE DUMB INTERNET KIDS Dont understand Basketball and gonna fucccking act like they know shiit because the fucccking RULE BOOK dont show you fucccking pictures or tell you fucccking STEP BY STEP. ANY FUCCCKING OFFICIAL League will tell you its a fucccking Travel dumb asss.
[QUOTE=ZaaaaaH]AMAZING HOW DUMB FUCCCKING THESE TWO Are.
NO SHIIIT YOU FUCCCCK THAT IS THE FUCCCKING RULES and if you watch the CLIP they BOTH LIFT UP there PIV FOOT BEFORE The OTHER FOOT you ****S.
PIV FOOT CAN NOT BE LIFTED BEFORE THE OTHER FOOT YOU ****ING RETARDS because ITS UR FUCCCKING PIV FOOT. WOW AMAZING HOW THESE DUMB INTERNET KIDS Dont understand Basketball and gonna fucccking act like they know shiit because the fucccking RULE BOOK dont show you fucccking pictures or tell you fucccking STEP BY STEP. ANY FUCCCKING OFFICIAL League will tell you its a fucccking Travel dumb asss.[/QUOTE]
:roll:
[QUOTE=ZaaaaaH]ANY FUCCCKING OFFICIAL League will tell you its a fucccking Travel dumb asss.[/QUOTE]:facepalm
Did you even ****ing watch the video I posted and from which Basketball organization it came from? You know better than refs themselves?
3 dumb retards right here.
If you look at Kobes Gif
He lift his Piv and still has the other foot on ground THAT IS THE SAMETHING as Changing ur PIV FOOT.
WOW How fucccking hard is that to understand?
YA that Retarded or That MAD?
[QUOTE=The-Legend-24][IMG]http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n579/kobe24clutch/LOL.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Cute little boy
You mad?
[QUOTE=ZaaaaaH]3 dumb retards right here.
If you look at Kobes Gif
He lift his Piv and still has the other foot on ground THAT IS THE SAMETHING as Changing ur PIV FOOT.
WOW How fucccking hard is that to understand?
YA that Retarded or That MAD?[/QUOTE]If you look at the [I]Guideline For Officials[/I] video it specifically says that the play is legal as long as the ball is released before landing on the pivot foot again.
Here's a video of the move taught a Ganon Baker's academy:
[img]http://nsa27.casimages.com/img/2011/06/28/110628040318154717.gif[/img]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83552NrHUwY[/url]
[COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"][I]Ganon Baker Basketball is a Basketball Services Company, sponsored by Nike. Ganon Baker Basketball has worked closely with Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Vince Carter, Amar'e Stoudemire, and Deron Williams at each of their Skill Academies and has trained multiple NBA stars such as Chris Paul, Jerryd Bayless, Kevin Durant and Amare Stoudemire to name a few.[/I][/COLOR]
What have you proven so far?
Here's a play made right in front of the ref:
[img]http://nsa27.casimages.com/img/2011/06/28/110628041116190827.gif[/img]
Conclusion? Totally legal.
Here's what we have: an official video saying the play is legal, actual game footage were the play is allowed, and mutliples videos of people teaching the move.
And what do we have on the other side of the argument? Guys screaming [I]"you ****ing kidz you dumbz I know cos I play the game and u don't"[/I].
[QUOTE=The-Legend-24][IMG]http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n579/kobe24clutch/8.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://erroraccessdenied.com/files/images/you_still_mad.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Rowe]How was that not a travel? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Do you understand the rules of basketball?
[QUOTE=Phong]Here's a play made right in front of the ref:
[img]http://nsa27.casimages.com/img/2011/06/28/110628041116190827.gif[/img]
Conclusion? Totally legal.
Here's what we have: an official video saying the play is legal, actual game footage were the play is allowed, and mutliples videos of people teaching the move.
And what do we have on the other side of the argument? Guys screaming [I]"you ****ing kidz you dumbz I know cos I play the game and u don't"[/I].[/QUOTE]
Like I said from the get Some refs call it and some refs dont bottom line its a travel unless they jump with BOTH FEET.
[QUOTE=Phong]If you look at the [I]Guideline For Officials[/I] video it specifically says that the play is legal as long as the ball is released before landing on the pivot foot again.
Here's a video of the move taught a Ganon Baker's academy:
[img]http://nsa27.casimages.com/img/2011/06/28/110628040318154717.gif[/img]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83552NrHUwY[/url]
[COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"][I]Ganon Baker Basketball is a Basketball Services Company, sponsored by Nike. Ganon Baker Basketball has worked closely with Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Vince Carter, Amar'e Stoudemire, and Deron Williams at each of their Skill Academies and has trained multiple NBA stars such as Chris Paul, Jerryd Bayless, Kevin Durant and Amare Stoudemire to name a few.[/I][/COLOR]
What have you proven so far?[/QUOTE]
He is a trainer not a fuccking rule official.
[QUOTE=ZaaaaaH]He is a trainer not a fuccking rule official.[/QUOTE]The guy makes a living teaching basketball skills to NBA pros.
You must be ****ing dense. :facepalm
[URL="http://vimeo.com/395653"]Guidelines for Officials: Traveling[/URL] start at 5:45. So what is that? A homemade backyard video?
What about you? Are you a rule official? Bottom line, you have absolutely nothing to back up your opinion.
[QUOTE=Phong]The guy makes a living teaching basketball skills to NBA pros.
You must be ****ing dense. :facepalm
[URL="http://vimeo.com/395653"]Guidelines for Officials: Traveling[/URL] start at 5:45. So what is that? A homemade backyard video?
What about you? Are you a rule official? Bottom line, you have absolutely nothing to back up your opinion.[/QUOTE]
He's a ****ing moron that has probably never played basketball in his life. When you lift your pivot foot you don't change your pivot foot.
He's a ****ing child that can't read.
After reading this thread 2 times and watching all of the videos, the step through is a legal move and is not a travel. Zaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah is wrong.
If you jump of your non pivot foot its like you take an extra step. Whats so hard to understand?
It doesnt say in the rule book that you have to jump of your pivot foot but thats because they already mention that you can't take more than 2 steps. Jumping of your non pivot will make it 3 steps.
[QUOTE=PistonsFan#21]It doesnt say in the rule book that you have to jump of your pivot foot but thats because they already mention that you can't take more than 2 steps. Jumping of your non pivot will make it 3 steps.[/QUOTE]Your pivot is your first step after picking up your dribble. All the little moves you make around your pivot don't count as steps because you never lifted the pivot. Once you plant your non-pivot foot and lift the pivot, you don't switch pivot, you just made the second step after picking up your dribble. At that point you can't do nothing else than pass or shoot.
That's what the rules mean when they say you have to pass or shoot before your pivot comes back down because if you don't, it would be a third step.
[QUOTE=PistonsFan#21]If you jump of your non pivot foot its like you take an extra step. Whats so hard to understand?
It doesnt say in the rule book that you have to jump of your pivot foot but thats because they already mention that you can't take more than 2 steps. Jumping of your non pivot will make it 3 steps.[/QUOTE]
You can lift your pivot foot to go for a shot or pass, the ball just can't be in your hands when you land.
[QUOTE=PistonsFan#21]If you jump of your non pivot foot its like you take an extra step. Whats so hard to understand?
It doesnt say in the rule book that you have to jump of your pivot foot but thats because they already mention that you can't take more than 2 steps. Jumping of your non pivot will make it 3 steps.[/QUOTE]
Man up and admit you were wrong, scrub.
i don't even know what it means to "change pivots". I never heard of that before.
[QUOTE=cteach111]i don't even know what it means to "change pivots". I never heard of that before.[/QUOTE]Yeah technically you don't change pivot, you just travel.
Travel:
[img]http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/06/28/1106280538585913.gif[/img]
What he does is pick up his dribble and plant his pivot (1) as his first step. He pivots, then when he lifts his pivot foot, the non-pivot foot becomes the second step (2). So far according to the rule, everything is fine as long as he passes or shoot now.
Since he plants his original pivot back down with the ball still in his hands, he took his third step (3). He should be called for a travel right there. When he spins around and jumps he took a fourth step (4).
Legal play: 2 steps
[img]http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/06/28/110628060934110142.gif[/img]
That's the way I would logically count the steps. If somebody has another interpretation.
[IMG]http://ploader.net/files/9bcdd6a42d39be6841c40656c1c4f61e.gif[/IMG]
[QUOTE=catch24]Man up and admit you were wrong, scrub.[/QUOTE]
I find it funny that Loki wouldn't admit he was wrong. Shut him down in this thread. Told him from first sight that it was legit and explained exactly why 15 pages ago. Luckily, he refused the avy the bet.:roll: