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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[QUOTE=ChandlerParsons]What the hell do you expect him to say? That's his teammate, AND they lost the game.[/QUOTE]
He looks like a bitter little bitch by saying this. He would of been better off just leaving it alone and not answering questions about it.
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[QUOTE=ChandlerParsons]What the hell do you expect him to say? That's his teammate, AND they lost the game.[/QUOTE]
I expect him to say "No comment" or "It was three points" without the bullshit extrapolation.
You just add fuel to the fire for the next time the teams meet by saying shit like this.
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]He looks like a bitter little bitch by saying this. He would of been better off just leaving it alone and not answering questions about it.[/QUOTE]
I guess, but he was probably in a bad mood, and he probably thinks it is getting too much publicity lol
[QUOTE=Droid101]I expect him to say "No comment" or "It was three points" without the bullshit extrapolation.
You just add fuel to the fire for the next time the teams meet by saying shit like this.[/QUOTE]
Yap, Thunder v Clippers WCF lolol
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
I don't understand how anyone who watched Vince in his prime could be THIS impressed by any other dunk.
People always mention the Weis or Zo (albeit one of my faves) dunks, but man, he had like a million in game dunks that were just nasty beyond belief. The only elite dunker to bring it all to the table: grace, power, control, creativity and that nastiness.
I think back to his first dunk contest dunk...he did it so effortlessly, so effortlessly that I think a lot of people overlook how incredible that dunk really was. I don't think there's another player in the history of the league that could've done that.
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[QUOTE=ChandlerParsons]
Yap, Thunder v Clippers WCF lolol[/QUOTE]
Are you more mad that this looks like a distinct possibility, or that the Rockets are having another year of "8-10th best record in the West, shit pick, no future?"
:lol
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[QUOTE=bsyde82]I don't understand how anyone who watched Vince in his prime could be THIS impressed by any other dunk.
People always mention the Weis or Zo (albeit one of my faves) dunks, but man, he had like a million in game dunks that were just nasty beyond belief. The only elite dunker to bring it all to the table: grace, power, control, creativity and that nastiness.
I think back to his first dunk contest dunk...he did it so effortlessly, so effortlessly that I think a lot of people overlook how incredible that dunk really was. I don't think there's another player in the history of the league that could've done that.[/QUOTE]
Vince Carter today said it's "AMAZING!". I think you need to relax.
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Vince Carter today said it's "AMAZING!". I think you need to relax.[/QUOTE]
"I think you need to relax" - is that the ISH gentleman's way of saying "U MAD?"
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
That dunk was ridiculous, inhuman... impossible. I can't believe he threw that down over Perkins. He literally gets stopped mid-air and just throws that mother ****er in the hoop. How many ****ing players in the HISTORY of the NBA have been able to do that? The fact he makes LeBron's alley-oop--the one where he literally jumps over a guy--look pedestrian... well, that says it all.
I knew Griffin was a top flight athlete coming out of college, but I swear to God he's become even more explosive and powerful since his days at Oklahoma. The guy is just a freak athlete. He's got a shot at becoming a top 5 power forward of all-time if he learns the mental aspects of basketball. Clippers fans, you are very lucky.
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
Timofey Mozgov is laughing his Russian ass off.
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[IMG]http://iwsmt.littleasllc.netdna-cdn.com/December-11-2011-01-51-12-tumblrlvfv37rzsZ1qewacoo1500.png[/IMG]
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[QUOTE=LA_Showtime]That dunk was ridiculous, inhuman... impossible. I can't believe he threw that down over Perkins. He literally gets stopped mid-air and just throws that mother ****er in the hoop. How many ****ing players in the HISTORY of the NBA have been able to do that? The fact he makes LeBron's alley-oop--the one where he literally jumps over a guy--look pedestrian... well, that says it all.
I knew Griffin was a top flight athlete coming out of college, but I swear to God he's become even more explosive and powerful since his days at Oklahoma. The guy is just a freak athlete. He's got a shot at becoming a top 5 power forward of all-time if he learns the mental aspects of basketball. Clippers fans, you are very lucky.[/QUOTE]
This is a fact. His athleticism and explosion HAS increased since OSU days. He said he's increased his max vert to around 40 or 41 inches compared to the 35.5 inch max vert he showed at the combine. It's amazing that his work ethic prevailed after that knee injury that took a year from him. Yes all Clippers fans are incredibly grateful and know they are lucky.
The Clippers had like a 3 percent chance to get Griffin so it was a miracle.
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
KD really sounds like a mad little boy in that ESPN article. Here's what he says about his dunk on Haywood in the WCF:
[QUOTE]"I knew that wasn't going to get attention because we never get attention like that," Durant said. "We're not an L.A. team or a Chicago team or a Miami team. All our plays get thrown under the radar."[/QUOTE]
Um, really dude? I think you guys get plenty of media attention.
Scotty Brooks on Perkins responding:
[QUOTE]"I've been around a lot of defensive-minded players. You're going to get dunked on. There's no way around it," Brooks said. "There's a lot of tremendous athletes in this league, but it doesn't affect him. He's going to come out and do the same thing tonight and guard the basket. That's what he does for us. Let's face it, I'm a fan of the game [and] that was a great play, but we move on."
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That's how you respectfully answer the question while not sounding mad and still supporting your team. Not rocket science.
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]He looks like a bitter little bitch by saying this. He would of been better off just leaving it alone and not answering questions about it.[/QUOTE]
Right and if he got on bended knee over the dunk? You make a seperate thread explaining how its [I]"own thread worthy"[/I] while saying [I]"See even his teammate thinks it was the most greatest dunk he's ever seen!! I'll take his words over regular fans anyday of the week."[/I].
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[I[B]]"I have no appreciation for it at all," said Perkins' Thunder teammate Kevin Durant.[/B] "It was a layup, I think. He threw the ball in and got fouled and made his free throw, so it was three points at the end of the day, no matter how it happened, how it went in the basket. I really wasn't impressed. He finished it. So what? We've moved on." [/I]
LOL - the 6'11" Durant only wishes he had the mega force of the 6'9" Griff
* I still consider Lebron dunk the nigh before jumping over Lucas for alley oup dunk better
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[QUOTE=GoldNugg21]KD really sounds like a mad little boy in that ESPN article. Here's what he says about his dunk on Haywood in the WCF:
Um, really dude? I think you guys get plenty of media attention.
Scotty Brooks on Perkins responding:
That's how you respectfully answer the question while not sounding mad and still supporting your team. Not rocket science.[/QUOTE]
:applause:
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
Lebron's dunk is probably better skill-wise. But just look at the crowd's reaction and it'll tell you which one is more impressive.
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ALAf186lLA[/url]
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[QUOTE=bagelred]Timofey Mozgov is laughing his Russian ass off.[/QUOTE]
The Mozgov Dunk was 10x better, so was the wade dunk and the durant dunk on hayward:confusedshrug:
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[QUOTE=Tlova]The Mozgov Dunk was 10x better, so was the wade dunk and the durant dunk on hayward:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
1. Blake's dunk on Perkins
2. Blake's dunk on Mozgov
3. Wade's dunk
4. LeBron's alley-oop dunk
5. Durant's dunk on Hayward
That order.
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
Psyco T trumps them all.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htwkRYa0gOk[/url]
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[QUOTE=bsyde82]I don't understand how anyone who watched Vince in his prime could be THIS impressed by any other dunk.
People always mention the Weis or Zo (albeit one of my faves) dunks, but man, he had like a million in game dunks that were just nasty beyond belief. The only elite dunker to bring it all to the table: grace, power, control, creativity and that nastiness.
I think back to his first dunk contest dunk...he did it so effortlessly, so effortlessly that I think a lot of people overlook how incredible that dunk really was. I don't think there's another player in the history of the league that could've done that.[/QUOTE]
I suppose it depends what you mean by "THIS impressed". Vince's endless array of spectacular in-game dunks is incredible. You mention the grace, power, control, creativity and nastiness aspects and I think you're right on all regards. Some dunkers just have it all. And while Carter had it all Griffin might at least be in the same general region/area code. I'll say this, I haven't been this intent on seeing a single player's highlights night in and night out since VC's '99-'07 reign.
And slightly off topic, regarding VC's first dunk in 2000, I think Paul George very well helps illustrate the point of while some folks may be able to imitate a player's dunks, it's quite another to duplicate them. Certain players are just able to handle themselves in the air with such grace. Look at George's 360 vs. VC's (5 Second Mark): [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDviSeP3YZ4[/url]
And to be sure, the above clip isn't a dig on George. He's a great dunker. It's just helping illustrate that performing a dunk isn't as simple as completing the minimal task i.e. one player's 360 will differ from another's based on a significant number of factors. People have dunked on center's faces before, but Griffin's style is particularly eye-popping.
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
But is it really a dunk ?....... he throws the ball down the basket from a distance, to be a dunk i would say your hand has to be on the rim :confusedshrug:
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[QUOTE=tomtucker]But is it really a dunk ?....... he throws the ball down the basket from a distance, to be a dunk i would say your hand has to be on the rim :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
This might sound ridiculous, but I think in the beginning of the slam dunk, hitting the rim could have very well just been a matter of happenstance. The idea behind the dunk was to force the ball into the basket.
For instance, if you and your friends are playing a game of paper wad basketball in class using a garbage bin as a basket, what will be the most effective shot, assuming your friends are playing defense? Shooting from deep? Or throwing it down into the garbage bin from close range? I feel comfortable assuming everyone would agree it's the latter. By extension, I think that was the original idea of the dunk, to force the ball into the hoop, preventing any unnecessary risks of having a shot blocked or altered. It just so happens, for 99% of dunk attempts, thrusting the ball downward into the basket will result in one's hand connecting with the rim.
Clearly, through the years, dunking developed its own separate style. For instance, I can't deny how fun it is to hang on the rim when I dunk. It's virtually never necessary, but I do it whenever I can anyway. Other people like to dunk as hard as they can while hitting their wrist or elbow on the rim. Still more (Carmelo Anthony) often prefer the throw down with little to no touch of the iron. What it comes down to is that a dunk is a throwdown. Whether someone's hand hits the rim, grabs the rim, or doesn't touch the rim altogether is merely style points.
I don't entirely understand the thought process behind folks who saw the Griffin highlight and said, "Whoa! What a dunk! Oh wait ... upon further review, I'm no longer excited because it appears as if his fingers didn't hit the rim enough." The overthinking by others about this process has in turn made me do the same, but from the other end of the spectrum.
To summarize, I feel strongly that a dunk is a throwdown. Historically, that was the whole idea behind the play in the first place. If a basketball player is able to jump high enough to where he'd be able to throw a ball into a 10 foot basket with extreme force without even touching the rim, I say more power to him, for that would be an excellent dunk.
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
It is a dunk by definition. It is not by your "gut feeling".
If that dunk is not, we need to develop a new word for that kind of throw-it-down shots, but I highly believe that most people are too lazy for that.
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
All the people in here saying it's not a dunk prob can't come close to doing it themselves in real life. It's a dunk , no way around it... what's wrong with you all?
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
His hand even hit the rim. Regardless of insane definition this was a dunk.
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
I just don't understand. Dude took off and would have thrown down a hard dunk. One of the heaviest, strongest dudes in the league jumped and hit Blake in the chest, HARD, halting his forward movement. Blake was [I]still[/I] able to c[I]o[/I]ck it back, after being hit hard and his forward movement halted, and throw it down.
It was a great dunk.
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[QUOTE=Droid101]I just don't understand. Dude took off and would have thrown down a hard dunk. One of the heaviest, strongest dudes in the league jumped and hit Blake in the chest, HARD, halting his forward movement. Blake was [I]still[/I] able to c[I]o[/I]ck it back, after being hit hard and his forward movement halted, and throw it down.
It was a great dunk.[/QUOTE]
I'm hating a bit, and nitpicking, but I didn't see it quite like this - he had already launched himself in the air and THEN perk followed, but of course it was too late because blake was already a mile up in the air. I didn't see it as they met, or that he cocked it back after the contact, and then threw it down.
What you described fits more with what VC did to Zo back in the day. That was a guard meeting one of the GOAT shot blockers...literally meet at the rim in mid air....THEN he literally cocked it back and threw down a clean dunk in Zo's grill. You can't get any more facial than that. A lot of times, shot blockers are just a tad late, and are "surprised". Zo knew what was going down from the get go - just couldn't do anything about it.
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[QUOTE=Rake2204]
And to be sure, the above clip isn't a dig on George. He's a great dunker. It's just helping illustrate that performing a dunk isn't as simple as completing the minimal task i.e. one player's 360 will differ from another's based on a significant number of factors. People have dunked on center's faces before, but Griffin's style is particularly eye-popping.[/QUOTE]
Yea, all 360s are definitely not equal. I wonder why VC never tried a 540 or something. Seems like prime VC could easily pull it off. Not just the dunk contest dunk, but those early toronto days when he'd do a one handed 360 on a fast break - so easy.
I think another aesthetic appeal of VC was his length - just made it look a lot better when combined with the rest of his attributes. Blake has that power and ups, but not length really. Length is a reason why I LOVE javale's dunks.
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[QUOTE=BurningHammer]It is a dunk by definition. It is not by your "gut feeling".
If that dunk is not, we need to develop a new word for that kind of throw-it-down shots, but I highly believe that most people are too lazy for that.[/QUOTE]
then let us call this kind of thing a "throwdown" then, that was infact what he did.....he threw the ball down the hoop.
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Re: Reps for the GIF of Blake Griffin's poster on Perk
[QUOTE=DirtySanchez]I been watching bball for 25 years....greatest dunk I have ever seen.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm Watch more basketball
Vince Carter's Olympic dunk over a 7'2'' center was much much better, it's not even close.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMrPjl-927Q[/url]
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Re: Reps for the GIF of Blake Griffin's poster on Perk
[QUOTE=daily]:facepalm Watch more basketball
Vince Carter's Olympic dunk over a 7'2'' center was much much better, it's not even close.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMrPjl-927Q[/url][/QUOTE]
You bumped a year old thread for [I]that[/I]?
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Re: Reps for the GIF of Blake Griffin's poster on Perk
[QUOTE=shaq2000]You bumped a year old thread for [I]that[/I]?[/QUOTE]Somebody else linked to the article. I just clicked and responded, it's a good topic that should be revived because it talks about a bunch of different dunks. Good discussion is hard to find on ISH and sometimes you're better off kick starting an old one
Why? do you have a problem with that?
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
This > Jordan's dunk easily.
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
[QUOTE=Xsatyr]This > Jordan's dunk easily.[/QUOTE]
+1
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Re: Blake Griffin throws down best NBA dunk of year on Kendrick Perkins Jan. 30, 2012
Wade's dunk on Perkins >>>> this one. EASILY.