Michael Jordan memo to Kobe Bryant:

[QUOTE=brain drain]Come on, don't pretend that Charles was a great defender who was just lazy and could turn it up when he wanted. He simply was a very bad defender, period. To think that he could suddenly step it up against Lebron of all people is a little absurd.[/QUOTE]

No he wasn't. He was just lazy and didn't really give a shit until the playoffs came around as far as playing defense. Besides I never said he'd shut down Lebron I just think it's a better match up than Pippen is. Even putting Pippen on Durant may be a mistake. Scottie always did his most damage defensively when he was able to play off the ball and roam around utilizing which was the best help defense in the league. Either way the huge advantage the Dream Team has is that they can go all out defensively on the ball, go for more steals etc because they Have David Robinson (who just won DPOY that season) and Patrick Ewing back there protecting the paint. They can funnel their man into the Centers. The 2012 team can't do that. Tyson Chandler is an absolute joke defensively compared to Robinson and Ewing.

:oldlol: I love how Kobe's making everyone mad :bowdown: Has the whole world talking lol

What are the rules? I remember D.Jones shutting down C.Paul. Could only imagine how he'd fare against those guy's. I think it'd go either way. Different result every time. Neither team would dominate the other. If I had to put money on it I'd go with the dream team tho. They're post play is another level when you look at it.

[QUOTE=jlip]Using how the '92 team manhandled their "competition" as the barometer for how they would play against the '12 team is like saying that since a group of NBA all stars defeated a team full of high schoolers that they would dominate another team of all stars the same way. [/QUOTE]
This is completely untrue, and proves that you need to watch the games again, as suggested.

Some of the teams, Angola for instance, were clearly just content to be on the court with the Dream Team. However, Croatia and Brazil fielded very good teams, with a number of players who were playing, would play, or could play in the NBA.

As a matter of fact, that Croatia team would give the '12 team a good test. Brazil had a bunch of athletes, and would also be a challenge.

Quiet as its kept, the Gold Medal game against Croatia was pretty tight for most of the first half.

So, not all of the teams were analogous to "high schoolers". That's just a myth perpetrated by people who don't know what they're talking about.

Kobe=MJ

:biggums: Stopped reading there.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[QUOTE=Rake2204]I'm in full agreement with you on that one. I was going to address that statement if you did not.

I think the comparison of the '92 team to the '12 squad is a lot less about 1-on-1 matchups than what many people are suggesting. I don't think it's a matter of saying, "Jordan > Bryant and James > Pippen", regardless of whether they're true statements or not. The '92 Dream Team is just one continuous wave of Hall of Famers. It never stops and it never drops off. Would the drop off be Chris Mullin, the shooter coming off a 26ppg season on 52% shooting? John Stockton? The all-time leader in assists and steals?

For me, the absurdly high level of depth on the '92 squad is the largest difference between the two teams. If Russell Westbrook attacks David Robinson and draws two quick fouls on him, who's going to pick up the slack? Well, that'd more than likely fall on the shoulders of Hall of Fame center Patrick Ewing. No big deal. And if Magic rolls an ankle, who's running point? Oh, John Stockton. Conversely, say David Robinson gives Tyson all he can handle inside and Tyson finds himself in heavy foul trouble early. Who will spell him? Kevin Love. Not shabby, but it's not Patrick Ewing. And if Chris Paul needs a breather? 40% shooting Deron Williams. Again, great player, not John Stockton. The examples, of course, only run deeper.[/QUOTE]

This. The drop-off from the '92 team's starters to second unit isn't as big as the drop-off from the '12 team's best players to the bench. You're going from a starting lineup of 5 HOFers (all in their prime if you go with the starting lineup I used) to a second unit of 5 HOFers (all in their prime except Magic) on the '92 team. With the '12 team you're going from sure fire HOFers in LeBron, Kobe, and more than likely Durant, to guys like Westbrook, Love, Iggy, and Harden.

[QUOTE=RaininTwos]I understand basketball. [/QUOTE]

You apparently don't when you say utter bullsh*t like this:

[QUOTE=RaininTwos]In terms of skill/peak, I think that the MJ/Kobe gap is like splitting hairs.[/QUOTE]

Early 90's Jordan is the greatest perimeter player to ever play the game. Only other wing players close to him are Magic and Bird. Those three are in a class of their own when it comes to perimeter players. Prime Kobe isn't even as good as Wizards Jordan. Wizards Jordan was a smarter scorer/player, better passer, better rebounder, and better team leader. He was still clutch as hell too.

Kobe is an overrated piece of sh*t who would be no better than Mitch Richmond if he played in the 90's. The p*ssy cries to the refs every time someone so much as looks at him. Physical defenses take him out of the game and shut him completely down as history has shown us(Pistons, Celtics, hell even OKC). He's nothing more than a low efficient chucker who forced his way out of a small market team on draft night to play with one of the most dominant players of all time. He was carried to three straight championships, and then tried his best to chuck his team out of another if it weren't for Pau Gasol, Ron Artest, and Derek Fisher making big plays against the Celtics in 2010.

Kobe does NOTHING better than Jordan, NOTHING. Oh wait, he does, he's better at chucking low percentage shots, quitting during playoff series', and alienating his teammates. He's a front runner who quits when his team is behind(see 06 vs Phoenix, 08 vs Boston, 11 vs Dallas).

Dream Team>>>>>>>>2012 Team. I'd love to see Jordan/Pippen taking turns manhandling Kobe and Lebron. I'd love to see a front line of Chandler/Griffin/Love trying to stop Ewing/Robinson/Malone/Barkley. CP3/Westbrook/DWill against Magic/Stock? Please.

[QUOTE=raptorfan_dr07]
Early 90's Jordan is the greatest perimeter player to ever play the game. Only other wing players close to him are Magic and Bird. Those three are in a class of their own when it comes to perimeter players. Prime Kobe isn't even as good as Wizards Jordan. Wizards Jordan was a smarter scorer/player, better passer, better rebounder, and better team leader. He was still clutch as hell too.

Kobe is an overrated piece of sh*t who would be no better than Mitch Richmond if he played in the 90's. The p*ssy cries to the refs every time someone so much as looks at him. Physical defenses take him out of the game and shut him completely down as history has shown us(Pistons, Celtics, hell even OKC). He's nothing more than a low efficient chucker who forced his way out of a small market team on draft night to play with one of the most dominant players of all time. He was carried to three straight championships, and then tried his best to chuck his team out of another if it weren't for Pau Gasol, Ron Artest, and Derek Fisher making big plays against the Celtics in 2010.

Kobe does NOTHING better than Jordan, NOTHING. Oh wait, he does, he's better at chucking low percentage shots, quitting during playoff series', and alienating his teammates. He's a front runner who quits when his team is behind(see 06 vs Phoenix, 08 vs Boston, 11 vs Dallas).
[/QUOTE]

:roll:

[QUOTE=raptorfan_dr07]You apparently don't when you say utter bullsh*t like this:



Early 90's Jordan is the greatest perimeter player to ever play the game. Only other wing players close to him are Magic and Bird. Those three are in a class of their own when it comes to perimeter players. Prime Kobe isn't even as good as Wizards Jordan. Wizards Jordan was a smarter scorer/player, better passer, better rebounder, and better team leader. He was still clutch as hell too.

Kobe is an overrated piece of sh*t who would be no better than Mitch Richmond if he played in the 90's. The p*ssy cries to the refs every time someone so much as looks at him. Physical defenses take him out of the game and shut him completely down as history has shown us(Pistons, Celtics, hell even OKC). He's nothing more than a low efficient chucker who forced his way out of a small market team on draft night to play with one of the most dominant players of all time. He was carried to three straight championships, and then tried his best to chuck his team out of another if it weren't for Pau Gasol, Ron Artest, and Derek Fisher making big plays against the Celtics in 2010.

Kobe does NOTHING better than Jordan, NOTHING. Oh wait, he does, he's better at chucking low percentage shots, quitting during playoff series', and alienating his teammates. He's a front runner who quits when his team is behind(see 06 vs Phoenix, 08 vs Boston, 11 vs Dallas).

Dream Team>>>>>>>>2012 Team. I'd love to see Jordan/Pippen taking turns manhandling Kobe and Lebron. I'd love to see a front line of Chandler/Griffin/Love trying to stop Ewing/Robinson/Malone/Barkley. CP3/Westbrook/DWill against Magic/Stock? Please.[/QUOTE]

These Kobtards are high in LaLa land. Don't waste your breath.

[QUOTE=raptorfan_dr07]You apparently don't when you say utter bullsh*t like this:



Early 90's Jordan is the greatest perimeter player to ever play the game. Only other wing players close to him are Magic and Bird. Those three are in a class of their own when it comes to perimeter players. Prime Kobe isn't even as good as Wizards Jordan. Wizards Jordan was a smarter scorer/player, better passer, better rebounder, and better team leader. He was still clutch as hell too.

Kobe is an overrated piece of sh*t who would be no better than Mitch Richmond if he played in the 90's. The p*ssy cries to the refs every time someone so much as looks at him. Physical defenses take him out of the game and shut him completely down as history has shown us(Pistons, Celtics, hell even OKC). He's nothing more than a low efficient chucker who forced his way out of a small market team on draft night to play with one of the most dominant players of all time. He was carried to three straight championships, and then tried his best to chuck his team out of another if it weren't for Pau Gasol, Ron Artest, and Derek Fisher making big plays against the Celtics in 2010.

Kobe does NOTHING better than Jordan, NOTHING. Oh wait, he does, he's better at chucking low percentage shots, quitting during playoff series', and alienating his teammates. He's a front runner who quits when his team is behind(see 06 vs Phoenix, 08 vs Boston, 11 vs Dallas).

Dream Team>>>>>>>>2012 Team. I'd love to see Jordan/Pippen taking turns manhandling Kobe and Lebron. I'd love to see a front line of Chandler/Griffin/Love trying to stop Ewing/Robinson/Malone/Barkley. CP3/Westbrook/DWill against Magic/Stock? Please.[/QUOTE]

[img]http://bambam.info/filehole/donaldduck-funny-gifs-have-ever-been-so-mad-that-you.gif[/img]

[QUOTE]These Kobtards are high in LaLa land. Don't waste your breath.[/QUOTE]

So your in total agreement that Kobe Bryant = Mitch Richmond in the 90s too ?

And no, I absolutely don't agree with Jordan is better than everything in comparison with Kobe.

Yes, Jordan's the better player, but not at everything.



Keeping to the topic, it would have to come down to the major strengths each team had. Which for the 92 dream team, the big men... hence why Charles Barkley was the best player on the 92 Dream Team, through out that tournament.

The best player from the 08 team (Wade) isn't playing... So we have yet to find out who will be the best player for this team (assuming it will be LeBron/Durant or an outside chance that maybe it's Kobe ?), but it might come down to the point guards play.

This year's team isn't even at full strength due to injuries. The 2008 "redeem team" would beat this 2012 squad.

[QUOTE=TonyD]This year's team isn't even at full strength due to injuries. The 2008 "redeem team" would beat this 2012 squad.[/QUOTE]
Exactly.

Since they have already "redeemed", 2012 team's mindset won't be as strong as 2008's either.

[QUOTE]So your in total agreement that Kobe Bryant = Mitch Richmond in the 90s too ?[/QUOTE]

sure if you factor in that Mitch Richmond played with sorry franchises while Kobe Jordan played for a team with a strong frontcourt and superior coaching (cept for Mike Brown of course). We would all love to see how Kobe would fare as the No. 1 option on a medicore franchise in the handchecking 90s era.

[QUOTE]And no, I absolutely don't agree with Jordan is better than everything in comparison with Kobe.

Yes, Jordan's the better player, but not at everything.
[/QUOTE]

my assessement with Kobe over Jordan is long range shooting. everything else Jordan blows this guy out of the cannon. For MJ to score over 30,000 points with less than 600 three point field goals made is truly astounding.

[QUOTE=raptorfan_dr07]You apparently don't when you say utter bullsh*t like this:



Early 90's Jordan is the greatest perimeter player to ever play the game. Only other wing players close to him are Magic and Bird. Those three are in a class of their own when it comes to perimeter players. Prime Kobe isn't even as good as Wizards Jordan. Wizards Jordan was a smarter scorer/player, better passer, better rebounder, and better team leader. He was still clutch as hell too.

Kobe is an overrated piece of sh*t who would be no better than Mitch Richmond if he played in the 90's. The p*ssy cries to the refs every time someone so much as looks at him. Physical defenses take him out of the game and shut him completely down as history has shown us(Pistons, Celtics, hell even OKC). He's nothing more than a low efficient chucker who forced his way out of a small market team on draft night to play with one of the most dominant players of all time. He was carried to three straight championships, and then tried his best to chuck his team out of another if it weren't for Pau Gasol, Ron Artest, and Derek Fisher making big plays against the Celtics in 2010.

Kobe does NOTHING better than Jordan, NOTHING. Oh wait, he does, he's better at chucking low percentage shots, quitting during playoff series', and alienating his teammates. He's a front runner who quits when his team is behind(see 06 vs Phoenix, 08 vs Boston, 11 vs Dallas).

Dream Team>>>>>>>>2012 Team. I'd love to see Jordan/Pippen taking turns manhandling Kobe and Lebron. I'd love to see a front line of Chandler/Griffin/Love trying to stop Ewing/Robinson/Malone/Barkley. CP3/Westbrook/DWill against Magic/Stock? Please.[/QUOTE]
Rep earned.

[QUOTE=kaiteng]Exactly.

Since they have already "redeemed", 2012 team's mindset won't be as strong as 2008's either.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's one way of putting it. :oldlol:

A focused and healthy Wade, peak Kobe and enterting peak LeBron > prime LeBron, enterting prime Durant, and past-prime Kobe.

[QUOTE=RazorBaLade][img]http://bambam.info/filehole/donaldduck-funny-gifs-have-ever-been-so-mad-that-you.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
:lol :lol :lol :lol this gif is awesome

[QUOTE]sure if you factor in that Mitch Richmond played with sorry franchises while Kobe Jordan played for a team with a strong frontcourt and superior coaching (cept for Mike Brown of course). We would all love to see how Kobe would fare as the No. 1 option on a medicore franchise in the handchecking 90s era.[/QUOTE]

I don't know man. It's not that cut and dry to me.

The way I look at it... the Kobe Bryant that this generation has seen... wouldn't have existed in his prime in the 90s. What I'm trying to say is that he would have to be born around the 60s and the play his prime in the 80s-90s period. Therefore, he would be a different player... a player who would adjust through that defense.

He would still be great too, because I believe that greatness can transcend any era... I don't know what his numbers would be like, his Basketball IQ level, etc... but he would still be a superstar player. He wouldn't be the "Jordan clone" that many people relate him to be either (because he didn't grow up watching Jordan's tapes, or other NBA players tapes.)

Maybe he won't have the same career or maybe he will... I'm just trying to look at it logically, since there aren't any time machines, we can't transport players from now back in the past or bring back players from the past to the future, etc...

I think if we're going to say Kobe's in this situation too, I think we can say the same for guy like Dwyane Wade as well.


[QUOTE]my assessement with Kobe over Jordan is long range shooting. everything else Jordan blows this guy out of the cannon. For MJ to score over 30,000 points with less than 600 three point field goals made is truly astounding.[/QUOTE]

I would also say ball handling. Agree with everything else for the most part.

[QUOTE=Rake2204]I'm in full agreement with you on that one. I was going to address that statement if you did not.

I think the comparison of the '92 team to the '12 squad is a lot less about 1-on-1 matchups than what many people are suggesting. I don't think it's a matter of saying, "Jordan > Bryant and James > Pippen", regardless of whether they're true statements or not. The '92 Dream Team is just one continuous wave of Hall of Famers. It never stops and it never drops off. Would the drop off be Chris Mullin, the shooter coming off a 26ppg season on 52% shooting? John Stockton? The all-time leader in assists and steals?

For me, the absurdly high level of depth on the '92 squad is the largest difference between the two teams. If Russell Westbrook attacks David Robinson and draws two quick fouls on him, who's going to pick up the slack? Well, that'd more than likely fall on the shoulders of Hall of Fame center Patrick Ewing. No big deal. And if Magic rolls an ankle, who's running point? Oh, John Stockton. Conversely, say David Robinson gives Tyson all he can handle inside and Tyson finds himself in heavy foul trouble early. Who will spell him? Kevin Love. Not shabby, but it's not Patrick Ewing. And if Chris Paul needs a breather? 40% shooting Deron Williams. Again, great player, not John Stockton. The examples, of course, only run deeper.[/QUOTE]

The mere fact that 2012 are vulnerable enough that they would be completely screwed if Tyson Chandler got into foul trouble with Love, Griffin, or Lebron having to backup at center should make this not debatable.

[quote=AlphaWolf24]Kobe=MJ
Lebron>Barkley
Magic>Westbrook
Durant>Pippen
Robinson>Tyson

(anyone bringing up Bird never watched the olympics....dude was hurt and was barely able to play more then 10 minutes per)

12' Bench>92'

Drexler was basically a worse version of Danny Granger and wouldn't even make the squad in modern times....Ewing didn't even have more moves the Yao Ming...


12' is the better overall squad.[/quote]

Come on dude.

[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy][I]Michael Jordan memo to Kobe Bryant:

[QUOTE=lilgodfather1][B]Because Jordan is the best evaluator of talent[/B]... In fact MJ believing that the DT would win makes me believe that 2012 would destroy them because he is such a bad basketball mnd.[/QUOTE]
that is all kobe has to say.

[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]you got links for all the other times jordan sonned kobe?[/QUOTE]

yeah i got one here for you

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iHXoUl5bmo[/url]

mj sonned him hard

Nostalgia is awesome.

wow 8 pages long? lol

this is when 40 year old jordan sonned kobe
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UupUDYeNqQ[/url]

92 jordan would rape 2012 kobe....never let him touch the basketball!

[QUOTE=Remix]Magic would have fits with defending Westbrook. Especially the 1992 version of Magic.[/QUOTE]

How so??

John Stockton, Magic Johnson would have a field day...your talking bout the greatest stealer and one of the best ever in history....

Westbrook would have his passes and be stripped day and night especially by John Stockton....man averaged over 3 steals in his prime...

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]Oh and one more thing. Michael Jordan is the last person to try and evaluate any kind of talent or another player's ability. Let's be for real. Michael Jordan basically said Adam Morrison was better than Brandon Roy and Rudy Gay. This is the same man that basically said Kwame Brown was better than Gilbert Arenas, Pau Gasol, Tyson Chandler and freaking Joe Johnson! Cmon son. How you gonna listen to him. The only thing he can say is who he's better than. That's about it.[/QUOTE]

Just noticed that somebody else mentioned Jordan's skill level when it comes to evaluating talent so i wanted to see what you folks would say about this lol. Just cause Jordan says it's "No comparison" makes me think the current team would win lol.

[QUOTE=DatAsh]Maybe YOU should do some research before stating something as a fact that is not even close to being a fact.[/QUOTE]

I don't know which article on b-ball reference it's called but... 2002 Jordan was part of a list of the Top 20 inefficient 20ppg scoring seasons.

He might not have been the least efficient, but it was close enough to being a fact.

[QUOTE=RaininTwos]Kobe is a better shooter, [B]better off ball defender and just as good in one on one situations[/B], plus his post game is all time nasty.[/QUOTE]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read on inside hoops. Say what you want to say anonymously on the internet, but after reading something like the above quote, I(and anyone who's over 28-30) won't believe you when you say you watched Jordan play. You're either incredibly biased, or you're making assumptions based off an incomplete knowledge base.

As for the Kobe vs Jordan comparison that OldSchool made, most of what you bolded in the top part is absolutely true. The fact that you think it's not tells anyone who's seen both players play that you never saw Jordan play. The only thing I really disagree with their is that Jordan was a much greater rebounder than Kobe.

Defense - On ball lock down defense is fairly close though prime Jordan has a slight advantage due to his superior athleticism. Off ball defense is a clear advantage to Jordan. Watch the way Jordan fights through screens. Watch the way he almost gets in fights with his man just to keep him from getting the ball (Kobe did this on occasion, but it wasn't a constant like it was with Jordan). Help defense is another clear edge to Jordan. Jordan had a much better knack for knowing WHEN to help than Kobe did, and it even shows in their stats,

Rebounding - This is close, and this is the only part that was really wrong with OldSchools analysis IMO. Jordan was a slightly better rebounder prime vs prime, but lets not pretend it isn't close. Looking at their TRB%, Jordan does have a clear edge, but where talking 9-10% vs 7-8%.

Passing/Playmaking - Again, anyone who's seen both players play(which you "claim" to have) would know that Jordan has a somewhat small but clear advantage here as well. In terms of pure passing ability, Kobe is probably Jordan's equal, if not superior. What makes Jordan the better passer/playmaker was his superior ability to draw the double off penetration and kick it out to the open man. Jordan was also the more willing passer.

Post-Game - This one is close too, but Jordan still gets the nod. Kobe is a fantastic post player, and possibly one of the best guards of all time, but Jordan was still better. Footwork is probably close, with Kobe having a slight edge, but Jordan's superior agility/strength allowed him to to more easily blow by his man to get to the basket, and also allowed him to get more separation on his turn around jumper. Ultimately, Jordan was the more effective player in the post. Stats, and the unbiased eye test back this up.

10% Overall impact difference? - I would say that's about right. Do you think that's an exaggeration.


All of this is talk is pretty meaningless though, as it assumes were talking prime Jordan vs prime Kobe. The more relevant discussion with regards to this thread is prime Jordan vs past prime Kobe, and there is certainly a >10% difference in overall impact there.

Alphawolf24 had easily the two dumbest remarks in this thread with these two doozies...

Kobe=MJ- come on, prime MJ vs old ass Kobe?:roll: prime MJ>>>prime Kobe

"Drexler is basically a worse Danny Granger".-:facepalm

Basketball isn't your fort

[QUOTE=TheMan]Alphawolf24 had easily the two dumbest remarks in this thread with these two doozies...

Kobe=MJ- come on, prime MJ vs old ass Kobe?:roll: prime MJ>>>prime Kobe

"Drexler is basically a worse Danny Granger".-:facepalm[/QUOTE]

I actually overlooked the Kobe/MJ one.

I've been stuck on the Drexler being a worse Danny Granger. I've been staring at it. I can't get past it lol.

[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]I don't know which article on b-ball reference it's called but... 2002 Jordan was part of a list of the Top 20 inefficient 20ppg scoring seasons.

He might not have been the least efficient, but it was close enough to being a fact.[/QUOTE]

He didn't say it was one of the least efficient(which I wouldn't have disagreed with), he said THE least efficient. You'd have to be pretty dense to think that 20ppg on 44.5% is the least efficient >20ppg season of all time. Hell, that would have been GREAT efficiency in the 50s/60s.

[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]I actually overlooked the Kobe/MJ one.

I've been stuck on the Drexler being a worse Danny Granger. I've been staring at it. I can't get past it lol.[/QUOTE]
He either likes the attention his idiocy brings him or just not a serious poster.

[QUOTE=DatAsh]The more relevant discussion with regards to this thread is prime Jordan vs past prime Kobe, and there is certainly a >10% in overall impact there.[/QUOTE]

You can make the argument that there is >10% difference even with prime Kobe. It's hard to use percentages here, but in terms of overall efficiency, leadership, intangibles, prime Kobe was probably 85-90% percent the player prime Jordan was. And the 90% high-end of the spectrum would be on those special nights when Kobe is firing on all cylinders.

[QUOTE=Dragonyeuw]You can make the argument that there is >10% difference even with prime Kobe. It's hard to use percentages here, but in terms of overall efficiency, leadership, intangibles, prime Kobe was probably 85-90% percent the player prime Jordan was. And the 90% high-end of the spectrum would be on those special nights when Kobe is firing on all cylinders.[/QUOTE]

I agree that it's hard, and probably wrong to use a % here.

[QUOTE=DatAsh]You'd have to be pretty dense to think that 20ppg on 44.5% is the least efficient >20ppg season of all time.[/QUOTE]

Dude, I didn't reference that version of Jordan. That's 2003 Jordan.

I'm talking about 2002 Jordan and I'm pretty sure rhythmic

[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]Dude, I didn't reference that version of Jordan. That's 2003 Jordan.

I'm talking about 2002 Jordan and I'm pretty sure rhythmic

[QUOTE=DatAsh]The dense comment wasn't aimed at you. Sorry if you took it that way[/QUOTE]

Nah, none taken, but I actually didn't see (or just didn't look back far enough) the other part of that quote.

Thanks for noting that. :cheers:

Makes sense to me now.