Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan

[QUOTE=Baller234;14850257]yea, this is great and all.... but that still leaves 103 players in the league who are more efficient than lebron james.

are they better? if not, how come? efficiency is super important right?[/QUOTE]

Volume + efficiency. If efficiency meant everything, Gobert would be looked at as the best scorer. :oldlol:

MJ was one of the most volume-efficient scorers during his peak, lots of seasons where he was at 60 TS%, in his Washington years he was pretty much a one-dimensional chucker.

And I just proved that.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14850259]Volume + efficiency. If efficiency meant everything, Gobert would be looked at as the best scorer. :oldlol:

MJ was one of the most volume-efficient scorers during his peak, lots of seasons where he was at 60 TS%, in his Washington years he was pretty much a one-dimensional chucker.

And I just proved that.[/QUOTE]

it's a good thing TS% is a made up statistic that signifies nothing whatsoever and only appeals to stat dorks who don't know shit about basketball.

[QUOTE=Baller234;14850195]i wouldn't really compare the rough and tough zone defense era of the early 2000's against the you can't touch me space and pace no defense era of current year.[/QUOTE]

You'd have a point if MJ didn't need 19yrs to play 15 seasons, compared to 21 consecutive seasons. Then compare minutes played and it's not even close.

[QUOTE=Baller234;14850263]it's a good thing TS% is a made up statistic that signifies nothing whatsoever and only appeals to stat dorks who don't know shit about basketball.[/QUOTE]

In other words, you have nothing to counter with. People who don't know shit about basketball say things like the "pace and space era was starting in 2009."

TS% is simply a better way to measure efficiency than FG%, this guy is so stupid it hurts.

I dont think its fair to compare an old lebron and an old jordan



lebrons GOAT athleticism is a huge advantage over every nba player ever



that includes longevity



he's literally going to be the first player in nba history who plays at the same time as his son :oldlol:

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14850265]In other words, you have nothing to counter with. People who don't know shit about basketball say things like the "pace and space era was starting in 2009."[/QUOTE]

no, you just put too much of your faith into useless statistics.

does the team with the higher field goal percentage always win the game? what about true shooting percentage? can you be the more efficient team and still lose? do you win a basketball game with efficiency alone or is there a multitude of other factors?

and yet here you are arriving at forgone conclusions and crafting arguments over an effing 4% difference in someone's shooting percentage.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14850224]
MJ had a 48 TS%
LeBron's TS% last season and so far this year is at 59%

That's a big gap.[/QUOTE]
Indeed.

Btw...

AD's LeBronless Lakers currently losing to the tanking Blazers. Would have been a blow out if LeBron didn't inspire Cam Reddish to carry AD. :crazysam:

[QUOTE=SATAN;14850487]Btw...

AD's LeBronless Lakers currently losing to the tanking Blazers. Would have been a blow out if LeBron didn't inspire Cam Reddish to carry AD. :crazysam:[/QUOTE]

What an idiot^. :roll:

Maybe this moron didn't realize that the Lakers were [B]BELOW .500 [/B]with Lebron playing.

[QUOTE=SATAN;14850487]Btw...

AD's LeBronless Lakers currently losing to the tanking Blazers. Would have been a blow out if LeBron didn't inspire Cam Reddish to carry AD. :crazysam:[/QUOTE]

30/13/6 3 blocks and a W

Lakers undefeated without Bran :pimp:

The Bronie bunch were just PRAYING the Lakers would lose this game.

No Lebron, no dead weight.

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[QUOTE=red1;14850360]I dont think its fair to compare an old lebron and an old jordan



lebrons GOAT athleticism is a huge advantage over every nba player ever



that includes longevity



he's literally going to be the first player in nba history who plays at the same time as his son :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Jordan beats Lebron in longevity too, along with everything else.

Did you know that Jordan played 82 games in his last season? Lebron's already sitting out games, and the season just started. Not to mention that Lebron does on-court load management every game.

[QUOTE=Full Court;14850539]Jordan beats Lebron in longevity too, along with everything else.

Did you know that Jordan played 82 games in his last season? Lebron's already sitting out games, and the season just started. Not to mention that Lebron does on-court load management every game.[/QUOTE]

The goat played all 82 games in the worst east ever? I'm sure he had a deep playoff run then and was expected to win kinda like Lebron right?

If you are trying to argue old Wizards Jordan over old Laker LeBron you are 100% braindead.


This season just further nail in the coffin for the LeBron > Jordan discussion.


I knew this back in 2009 because I am smart. The rest of the world needed another 13-14 years.

[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;14850568]The goat played all 82 games in the worst east ever? I'm sure he had a deep playoff run then and was expected to win kinda like Lebron right?[/QUOTE]
:lebronamazed:

[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;14850568]The goat played all 82 games in the worst east ever? I'm sure he had a deep playoff run then and was expected to win kinda like Lebron right?[/QUOTE]

No.


Jordan was never expected to win. Nobody at the time even bothered to talk about Jordan Wizards.

[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;14850568]The goat played all 82 games in the worst east ever? I'm sure he had a deep playoff run then and was expected to win kinda like Lebron right?[/QUOTE]

Nah, 40-year old Jordan couldn't still carry a team deep into the playoffs. He had a far worse team than Lebron had in 2019.

[QUOTE=8Ball;14850728]No.


Jordan was never expected to win. Nobody at the time even bothered to talk about Jordan Wizards.[/QUOTE]
He was never even able to lead that team to the playoffs, despite having hamilton and stackhouse. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Axe;14850731]He was never even able to lead that team to the playoffs, despite having hamilton and stackhouse. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Stackhouse is a pretty good reason for not making the playoffs :facepalm

:sleeping

[QUOTE=Axe;14850731]He was never even able to lead that team to the playoffs, despite having hamilton and stackhouse. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

None of the fans cared about Wizards Jordan because they all knew he was finished.

The media barely cared.

Jordan was no longer even a top 30 player in the league on the Wizards.


Meanwhile Bron is somehow still a top 15 player at season 21.


Jordan was never on Bron's level of overall greatness. It's so painfully obvious to see.

Bron is averaging more ppg at year 21 than all the year 21 players combined.

[QUOTE=8Ball;14850743]None of the fans cared about Wizards Jordan because they all knew he was finished.

The media barely cared.

Jordan was no longer even a top 30 player in the league on the Wizards.


Meanwhile Bron is somehow still a top 15 player at season 21.


Jordan was never on Bron's level of overall greatness. It's so painfully obvious to see.[/QUOTE]
I think it's also because he's just incapable of elevating those guys in dc bt.

Only 10 games into the season and the Bronies are already showing their desperation. :roll:

Not even a close comparison

weak era

Who cares.

Although Lebron is having an excellent season so far. Playing his best ball since 2020 probably.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14860157]Who cares.

Although Lebron is having an excellent season so far. Playing his best ball since 2020 probably.[/QUOTE]

Every Jordan stan cares.

[QUOTE=warriorfan;14860063]weak era[/QUOTE]

for real... sad

-Smak

[QUOTE=warriorfan;14860063]weak era[/QUOTE]

Warriors won most of all their rings in a weak era? :lol


Curry weak player?

Lebron is the superior player

Michael Jordan missed the playoffs while LeBron had 30/5/6 against the defending NBA champion.

A much better players.

[QUOTE=Lebron23;14899223]Lebron is the superior player[/QUOTE]

With or without Steroids?

Greatest 39 years old in NBA history

[QUOTE=Lebron23;14905208]Greatest 39 years old in NBA history[/QUOTE]

:cheers:

[QUOTE=Lebron23;14905208]Greatest 39 years old in NBA history[/QUOTE]

see you next years

Still a better player even at his 22nd season