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I know I have Manu on my bench for ball handling duties, but I need another facilitator for my bench. When this guy is on, he's one of the best. Great vision to get some other guys easy looks. I know he's a hot head, but with KG on the team, I think it would be minimized.
I'm going with Rajon Rondo.
PG - Isiah Thomas
SG - Klay Thompson
SF - Julius Erving
PF - Kevin Garnett
C - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6th - Manu Ginobili
7th - Pau Gasol
8th - Alonzo Mourning
9th - Clyde Drexler
10th - Rajon Rondo
I'll take the 89 FMVP, Joe Dumars. Near 40% 3 point shooter, very good scorer/passer, and Jordan called him the best perimeter defender he ever faced.
PG: Chauncey Billups / Gary Payton
SG: Tracy McGrady / Joe Dumars
SF: Larry Bird / Chris Mullin
PF: Tim Duncan / Andrei Kirilenko
C: Bill Walton / Dwight Howard
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14629743]Amazing talent but serious chemistry issues.[/QUOTE]
Not on the court...you've got a big three that at the end of their careers were contending for titles. Kobe is always going to be a problem but I'm matching him with Jerry and Wilt...the most athletic center of all-time and his mentor. And both of those men changed their style of play based on whom they were playing with.
[QUOTE=L.Kizzle;14629740]Pete can't play D worth a licker tho.[/QUOTE]
True...but if you are taking Reggie Miller in the fifth round and Kyle Korver...Pete was one of the true great shooters
[QUOTE=John8204;14629786]Not on the court...you've got a big three that at the end of their careers were contending for titles. Kobe is always going to be a problem but I'm matching him with Jerry and Wilt...the most athletic center of all-time and his mentor. And both of those men changed their style of play based on whom they were playing with.[/QUOTE]
They were contending and mostly losing in the 60s, early 70s
It's true Wilt changed his game later as more of a distributor, but his peak was in the early 60s. other than maybe Jerry there's no great outside threat, and a lot of ball dominant guys who aren't particularly great passers... so the complimentary skills aren't great outside of the high usage scoring
Plus Barkley is a liability on D at a premium position
Just my 2 cents. Not trying to hate
[QUOTE=John8204;14629788]True...but if you are taking Reggie Miller in the fifth round and Kyle Korver...Pete was one of the true great shooters[/QUOTE]
I was just speaking on that posters pick. He said he wanted some one one can play D and shoot 3s.
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14629796]They were contending and mostly losing in the 60s, early 70s
It's true Wilt changed his game later as more of a distributor, but his peak was in the early 60s. other than maybe [B]Jerry there's no great outside threat[/B], and a lot of ball dominant guys who aren't particularly great passers... so the complimentary skills aren't great outside of the high usage scoring
Plus Barkley is a liability on D at a premium position
Just my 2 cents. Not trying to hate[/QUOTE]
The guy that before he was the logo was known as "Mr Outside" wasn't an outside threat
[QUOTE=John8204;14629802]The guy that before he was the logo was known as "Mr Outside" wasn't an outside threat[/QUOTE]
I said other than Jerry, and there wasn't a 3pt line in his day so we don't know how could he'd be. I certainly give him the benefit of the doubt though
Imstillballin on the clock
My last pick is Michael Cooper. The perfect 3&D player that rounds out my team perfectly.
Shaquille O'Neal // Patrick Ewing
Bill Russell // Karl Malone
Scottie Pippen // Shane Battier
Reggie Miller // Michael Cooper
Steve Nash // Mark Price
Going ABA with my final pick. Probably the most underrated center ever, especially on the defensive end.
Artis Gilmore.
- 1972 ABA MVP (Over Rick Barry & Julius Erving)
- 1975 ABA Champion
- 5x All-ABA First Team
- 4x All-ABA Defensive First Team (1 all-defensive team in the NBA)
- 11x All-Star (5 in the ABA. 6 in the NBA)
- 4x ABA rebounding champ
His team ranked 2nd to worst in defense the year before he got there in 1971. In '72, Gilmore in his rookie year anchored them to a #1 defense and 68 wins (44 wins the year before). In his 5 years in the ABA, his team ranked #1 on defense 3 times, the other 2 times they ranked #2. Massive defensive impact in his prime, also extremely efficient on offense, always around 55 fg%.
C - D. Robinson | A. Gilmore
F . R. Wallace | C. Bosh
F - Kawhi | Pierce
G - MJ | R. Allen
G - Stockton | W. Frazier
1st Round
1. Shooter - LeBron James
2. 1987_Lakers - Michael Jordan
3. Im Still Ballin - Shaquille O'Neal
4. AlternativeAcc. - Larry Bird
5. Wally450 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. SouBeachTalents - Hakeem Olajuwon
7 John8204 -Wilt Chamberlain
8. iamgine - Stephen Curry
9. post - Nikola Jokic
2nd Round
10. post - Giannis Antetokounmpo
11. iamgine - Kevin Durant
12. John8204 - Kobe Bryant
13. SouBeachTalents - Magic Johnson
14. Wally450 - Kevin Garnett
15. AlternativeAcc. - Tim Duncan
16. Im Still Ballin - Bill Russell
17. 1987_Lakers - David Robinson
18. Shooter - Moses Malone
3rd Round
19. Shooter - Chris Paul
20. 1987_Lakers - Kawhi Leonard
21. Im Still Ballin - Scottie Pippen
22. AlternativeAcc. - Bill Walton
23. Wally450 - Julius Erving
24. SouBeachTalents - Dirk Nowitzki
25. John8204 - Jerry West
26. iamgine - Anthony Davis
27. post - Luka Doncic
4th round
28. post - Joel Embiid
29. iamgine - Paul George
30. John8204 - Charles Barkley
31. SouBeachTalents - Dwyane Wade
32. Wally450 - Klay Thompson
33. AlternativeAcc. - Tracy McGrady
34. Im Still Ballin - Steve Nash
35. 1987_Lakers - Ray Allen
36. Shooter - James Harden
5th round
37. Shooter - Kevin McHale
38. 1987_Lakers - John Stockton
39. Im Still Ballin - Reggie Miller
40. AlternativeAcc. - Chauncey Billups
41. Wally450 - Isiah Thomas
42. SouBeachTalents - Jayson Tatum
43. John8204 - Elgin Baylor
44. iamgine - Jason Kidd
45. post - Rudy Gobert
6th round
46. post - Draymond Green
47. Iamgine - Dennis Rodman
48. John8204 - Jimmy Butler
49. SouBeachTalents - Oscar Robertson
50. Wally450 - Manu Ginobili
51. AlternativeAcc. - Gary Payton
52. Im Still Ballin - Karl Malone
53. 1987_Lakers - Paul Pierce
54. Shooter - Ben Wallace
7th round
55. Shooter - Chris Webber
56. 1987_Lakers - Rasheed Wallace
57. Im Still Ballin - Patrick Ewing
58. AlternativeAcc. - Dwight Howard
59. Wally450 - Pau Gasol
60. SouBeachTalents - Nate Thurmond
61 John8204 - Dominique Wilkins
62. iamgine - Penny Hardaway
63. post - Kyle Korver
8th round
64. post - Zion Williamson
65. Iamgine - Dikembe Mutombo
66. John8204 - Damian Lillard
67. SouBeachTalents - John Havlicek
68. Wally450 - Alonzo Mourning
69. AlternativeAcc. - Chris Mullin
70. Im Still Ballin - Shane Battier
71. 1987_Lakers - Walt Frazier
72. Shooter - Kris Middleton
9th Round
73. Shooter - Kyrie Irving
74. 1987_Lakers - Chris Bosh
75. Im Still Ballin - Mark Price
76. AlternativeAcc. - Andrei Kirilenko
77. Wally450 - Clyde Drexler
78. SouBeachTalents - Al Horford
79. John8204 - Bill Laimbeer
80. iamgine - Grant Hill
81. Post - Jrue Holiday
10th Round
82. post - elena delle donne
83. Iamgine - Arvydas Sabonis
84. John8204 - Sidney Moncrief
85. SouBeachTalents - Eddie Jones
86. Wally450 - Rajon Rondo
87. AlternativeAcc. - Joe Dumars
88. Im Still Ballin - Michael Cooper
89. 1987_Lakers - Artis Gilmore
90. Shooter
Last pick of the draft...Who gets in? Deep divin' right now boys. Uno momento
Danny Green is a good pick if you need a 3&D swingman. Rick Barry I don't think has been taken yet either.
I'm stuck on Glen Rice and Vince Carter at the moment. Deep diving...
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;14629979]Danny Green is a good pick if you need a 3&D swingman. Rick Barry I don't think has been taken yet either.[/QUOTE]
I was thinking good shooter that can go off (like Rice or Carter). Green's scoring is too limited and Rick Barry I thought about too but he can't shoot 3s and is a bit of a ball hog :lol
Thinking about just polling ISH to which has the best team, maybe have two separate groups, winner of each group meets in the championship for another poll. 9 teams won't really work if we do team vs team matchups.
[QUOTE=Shooter;14629982]I was thinking good shooter that can go off (like Rice or Carter). Green's scoring is too limited and Rick Barry I thought about too but he can't shoot 3s and is a bit of a ball hog :lol[/QUOTE]
Green is also pretty streaky and overrated as a defender. Good thoughts
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14629983]Thinking about just polling ISH to which has the best team, maybe have two separate groups, winner of each group meets in the championship for another poll. 9 teams won't really work if we do team vs team matchups.[/QUOTE]
I think either way I'll be penalized cause people hate me on here lol.
If anyone has a real gm account they could post the teams and they would give an unbiased vote/ranking
I need that peak Glen Rice smoove shootin'
27 ppg
47% 3P
87% FT
G- Chris Paul / Kyrie Irving
G- James Harden / Glen Rice
F- LeBron James / Khris Middleton
F- Kevin McHale / Chris Webber
C- Moses Malone / Ben Wallace
[QUOTE=Shooter;14629992]I need that peak Glen Rice smoove shootin'
27 ppg
47% 3P
87% FT
G- Chris Paul / Kyrie Irving
G- James Harden / Glen Rice
F- LeBron James / Khris Middleton
F- Kevin McHale / Chris Webber
C- Moses Malone / Ben Wallace[/QUOTE]
That 47% was with the shortened line bruh but not a bad pick :cheers:
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14629986]If anyone has a real gm account they could post the teams and they would give an unbiased vote/ranking[/QUOTE]
That actually crossed my mind. Don't really trust these ISH posters, it's really a troll fest. I have an account on realgm too.
Notable players who didn't get drafted
- Sam Jones
- Rick Barry
- Bob McAdoo
- Dave Cowens
- Willis Reed
- Nate Archibald
- Bob McAdoo
- George Gervin
- Pete Maravich
- Elvin Hayes
- Robert Parish
- James Worthy
- Mitch Richmond
- Allen Iverson
- Shawn Marion
- Russell Westbrook
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14629993]That 47% was with the shortened line bruh but not a bad pick :cheers:[/QUOTE]
The MJ spesh :lol
Still a career 40% from 3 doe
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14629986]I think either way I'll be penalized cause people hate me on here lol.
If anyone has a real gm account they could post the teams and they would give an unbiased vote/ranking[/QUOTE]
Word, say what you want about Real GM they'd have no reason to be biased, and that place is not the trolling asylum this place is.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14629996]That actually crossed my mind. Don't really trust these ISH posters, it's really a troll fest. I have an account on realgm too.[/QUOTE]
They probably have may more active posters too.
They'd could do a ranking 1-9 (lol) and we could tally up the points
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14629997]Notable players who didn't get drafted
- Sam Jones
- Rick Barry
- Bob McAdoo
- Dave Cowens
- Willis Reed
- Nate Archibald
- Bob McAdoo
- George Gervin
- Pete Maravich
- Elvin Hayes
- Robert Parish
- James Worthy
- Mitch Richmond
- Allen Iverson
- Russell Westbrook[/QUOTE]
I'd add Shawn Marion and Kemp to that list
Let's be honest: My team is the best.
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14630000]They probably have may more active posters too.
They'd could do a ranking 1-9 (lol) and we could tally up the points[/QUOTE]
We could do that, or just a poll asking which team is best.
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;14630003]Let's be honest: My team is the best.[/QUOTE]
Na bro, my team has spacing & defense in every position except C. My Centers are ultra athletic & elite rim protectors. :pimp:
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;14630003]Let's be honest: My team is the best.[/QUOTE]
You failed to pair Shaq with a dominant perimeter scorer, and Pippen/Russell don't space the floor at all on offense
Nash/Miller are extremely bad defenders and your bench doesn't have any dominant perimeter scorers either as Cooper/Battier are extremely limited offensively
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14630004]We could do that, or just a poll asking which team is best.[/QUOTE]
Thatd probably be easiest huh
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14630005]Na bro, my team has spacing & defense in every position except C. My Centers are ultra athletic & elite rim protectors. :pimp:[/QUOTE]
I dont think Wallace/Bosh space the floor as well as you think, and bosh is pretty overrated defensively
But I think you have one of the stronger teams
My top 4 would be mine, yours, southbeach, and wally
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;14630003]Let's be honest: My team is the best.[/QUOTE]
I mean, I got elite ball handling, rebounding, and shooting
G- Chris Paul / Kyrie Irving
G- James Harden / Vince Carter
F- LeBron James / Khris Middleton
F- Kevin McHale / Chris Webber
C- Moses Malone / Ben Wallace
We finna go 82-0
Team Worm Curry:
G Jason Kidd
G Stephen Curry
G Anfernee Hardaway
F/G Paul George
F/G Grant Hill
F Kevin Durant
F/C Dennis Rodman
F/C Anthony Davis
C Dikembe Mutombo
C Arvydas Sabonis
I'm going to simulate all our teams on whatifsports like we did years ago. I'm 100% confident my team will dominate.
Other guys I'm surprised weren't drafted
Trae
Morant
Booker
Mitchell
Petrovic
Artest
Peja
Schrempf
Iggy
Webber
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;14630020]I'm going to simulate all our teams on whatifsports like we did years ago. I'm 100% confident my team will dominate.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't account for intangibles and Rodman becomes a GOAT candidate in those Sims
It's fun but it's not remotely accurate.
I still don't think your team does all that well because they underrate Russell in that
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14630026]Doesn't account for intangibles and Rodman becomes a GOAT candidate in those Sims
It's fun but it's not remotely accurate.
I still don't think your team does all that well because they underrate Russell in that[/QUOTE]
It also doesn't remotely factor in fatigue. I remember one time the two teams who made the Finals literally played their starters 48 minutes a game and that had no impact on player performance :lol