Congrats NBA, you've lost yet another fan(warning long rant ahead)

[QUOTE=Kellogs4toniee]TC has got a few fair points from a generalized point of view, but there's no justification for coming out and ranting that long.

On a side note, for those who live or have been to Chicago here, ever been to Hot Doug's? It's a small hot dog place, line is always huge during lunch hours but for 3-4 bucks you get a very good size hot dog, chili fries, and a fountain drink. I miss that, wish I still lived at Chi-Town.

Granted, it is nice to live near L.A now and have full access to In-N-Out =][/QUOTE]


Dang, bro.. I need to make a trip to Chi-town. LA has a place call The Hat, really good Chili cheese fries..

[QUOTE=NewYorkUSCtrojan]Dang, bro.. I need to make a trip to Chi-town. LA has a place call The Hat, really good Chili cheese fries..[/QUOTE]


Yea, the thing is those hot dogs you could sell for 10 bucks on some side street anywhere outside Chicago and claim it's a "fancy certain best in town" and people would pay that easily. But only there it goes for like 2-3 bucks.

[QUOTE=Kellogs4toniee]Yea, the thing is those hot dogs you could sell for 10 bucks on some side street anywhere outside Chicago and claim it's a "fancy certain best in town" and people would pay that easily. But only there it goes for like 2-3 bucks.[/QUOTE]

DAMN! thanks for the "good eats" advice.

QUESTION:
Did anybody here read the entire OP?

[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]QUESTION:
Did anybody here read the entire OP?[/QUOTE]


I did, he had some fair points to be honest. He's definitely not the first one to complain about the fouls, but of course as others have stated no reason to make a long rant on some forum stating some obscure decision like you will stop watching NBA over one game.

I bet my life and kobe bryants life he will watch game 2.

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Teddy's Bigger Burger. If you're ever in Hawaii make sure to stop by. It's The Rock's favorite place to get a burger. 'Nuff said.

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Teddy's Bigger Burger. If you're ever in Hawaii make sure to stop by. It's The Rock's favorite place to get a burger. 'Nuff said.[/QUOTE]


Damn that looks so good. The cheese is like perfectly melted into the beef.

[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]QUESTION:
Did anybody here read the entire OP?[/QUOTE]
I read half of it. It is nothing I have not heard repeatedly from fans in my 20 years of watching, talking to and listening to people talking about basketball.

[QUOTE=raptorfan_dr07]Congratulations David Stern and the NBA, you've just lost another long time fan. It's finally come to the point where I can not, and will not watch another NBA game. At least not until they finally start doing something to change it. Unfortunately, I do not see those changes occuring anytime soon. It's has become clear to me that NBA games are no longer decided by a team's talent and skill, or their heart and desire, but instead by which pocketbook is bigger and what superstar is more marketable.

The loss of Michael Jordan caused the NBA to hype up any young superstar wing player in an attempt to replace what he was to the NBA. This led to the "pussification" so to speak, of the league and a new generation of fans who value nothing but showboating and high scoring. The rule changes during the midpoint of this decade helped to "pussify" the league even more. It's become virtually impossible to guard a player out on the perimeter because a foul is going to be called nearly every possession. I was recently reading a comment on these forums that actually stated that everytime Kevin Garnett took a swipe at Dwight Howard's hands, it should be a flagrant foul. Yes, I kid you not, they actually said it should be a flagrant. Is that what we've come to? Has the NBA become so soft and watered down that people are calling for that? The NBA wonders why they're losing money. They wonder why they're not as popular as the MLB, the NFL, and even the freaking NHL. The game has changed from when we used to enjoy it. I grew up in the 90's. I was too young to have witnessed the careers of guys like Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, and countless other greats from past eras. When I started following the NBA, Larry Bird was hobbling into retirement and Magic Johnson caught HIV. I had always been around basketball since I was born. My dad was the head coach of the Girls Varsity basketball team at Manuel Arts High School in Los Angeles during the late 80's and early 90's. He used to bring me along with him sometimes at practice and I was at every game. Most of my passion for the game came from him. I've always liked to say that basketball was my first love. Even now as I'm older, girlfriends come and they go, but basketball always remains.

Watching the NBA now, I hate what I'm watching. This is no longer the game that I love. I hate what it's become. Strong, physical defense is no longer encouraged. Everything is all about who has the bigger star and who can draw the most fouls. It's not basketball anymore. It's disgusting watching someone like Ray Allen, a guy who gives his all night in and night out, be taken out of a game due to phantom fouls. It's disgusting watching players like Derek Fisher and Pau Gasol flop around like fishes out of water, trying to get calls and be rewarded for that. Meanwhile, a guy like Kendrick Perkins, who prides himself on defense and toughness, is rewarded with fouls. Probably the most frustrating thing, is the inconsistency. Certain calls are not given at the other end of the floor. For example, tonight I watched Pau Gasol attempt a dunk in the first quarter I believe. Kendrick Perkins recovered and was able to block the shot from behind. Pau screamed like a girl and fell down and of course, Perkins was given a foul. In the third quarter, Tony Allen went up for a similar play, and Kobe Bryant comes over and hits his wrist, causing him to miss the dunk. No foul was called. Another example, in the first or second quarter, I don't remember which, Glen Davis was at the top of the key setting a screen on Derek Fisher. He was stationary and Derek Fisher flopped and Davis was assessed an offensive foul. In the third quarter I believe it was, Pau Gasol came out to set a screen on Davis, hit him to the floor, and an offensive foul was not called, even though it was nearly identical to the Fisher/Davis play.

Whatever happened to the "no blood no foul" saying? My brother and I grew up playing heated battles of one on one, sometimes very late into the night. I used to lay a beating on him, and he would sit there and take it. Never once did he complain, he just went right back at me as hard as he could. We never would call fouls. For anyone who's seen He Got Game, that scene when Denzel Washington is playing a one on one game with his son at the park? That's how my brother and I were. That's the basketball I grew up with. Just the other day, he and I played one on one for the first time in a few years. Just like when we were younger, he and I were going at it, both of us laying a beating on the other. If someone were to play the way we play in the NBA, they'd foul out in a matter of seconds. One of the reasons I like the Celtics, is because they're bringing that physical brand of basketball back. Only in today's league, they're punished for it. Another reason why I like them, is because they play a team game, another thing that has vanished from today's NBA. In today's league, the majority of players have a "what can my team do for me" mentality instead of "what can I do for my team". It's given rise to a new brand of fans who worship a single individual and do anything to unjustly prop up the individual, often times at the expense of teammates and other players. The media and the NBA eat that up. I can't turn on any sports channel without having to hear a million times about Lebron James and his free agency. My dad brought up an excellent point today during the game. He said he preferred TNT's coverage because at halftime, they actually talk about the game and do real analysis. He, like myself, didn't like that stupid segment about Kobe that had nothing to do with anything, and he's a Laker fan. The average fan nowadays, loves crap like that. These fans are idiots, in every sense of the word. They know nothing about basketball or great players that came before. They are the PleezeBelieves, Desperados, Branslowskis, Lebron23s, and Canstops. They will put down former players or eras in attempts to unjustly build up their idols.

When I was younger, I was a huge Michael Jordan fan, as were most other people during the 90's. I didn't know much about Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, etc, but I found myself wanting to know about them, wishing that I could have watched them play. My dad was born in NY, but moved to LA as a teen in the 60's. He's got tons of stories about going to games at The Forum and watching Wilt and Russell, among others. As a kid I loved those stories and wanted to know more about how great they were. I know some of you think jlauber is a troll, and other than his inexplicable ranking of Kobe ahead of Bird, I actually value his contributions to this board, because he actually got to see these guys play and I enjoy hearing about it. Another, lesser known poster here is the Laker fan EllEffEll. I remember last year I called him the best Laker fan here by FAR. He too, has posted stories about seeing these guys play. I love learning more about these legends from the people who were actually there. These new fans don't appreciate that at all. They don't care about these true great players, and constantly put them down to hype up their idols. They don't want to know about these guys, all they want is for people to keep telling them how great Kobe or Lebron is.

So congrats NBA, you've officially lost yet another fan. I join the ranks of many who have left the NBA game behind. I guess that's what they want though, a bunch of mindless, moronic idiots who go along with whatever they say. People who don't have a clue about something as basic as a pick and roll and will continue to spend money on their Kobe or Lebron jerseys. They don't care if they don't know the first thing about basketball, as long as they can market Kobe and Lebron and these idiots buy into it. They don't care that they're slowly becoming the laughingstock of professional sports, if they aren't already. As a passionate basketball fan, I will probably still continue to follow my beloved Raptors, but from afar. Instead, I will get most of my fix from the NCAA like a majority of people are recently doing. The game is much better, and resembles more the one I grew up with. Players play hard, physicality is allowed, less fouls are called, team basketball is encouraged, there are no retarded fans, it's not about money. More than half the guys who play college basketball don't even have the NBA or professional basketball in their futures. They're out there for the love of the game. This year's March Madness was worlds better than this year's NBA playoffs. Sorry for the long rant, but I had nothing better to do tonight and just wanted to express my thoughts. I'm probably not going to watch the rest of the finals. I'll probably even watch the WNBA instead. Hell at least they play hard and they're a lot more physical. Their game is hugely based on fundamentals, and not flash. The fans aren't as stupid either. End rant, it's late and I'm going to bed.[/QUOTE]

Who Are You? Does David Stern Know You?
We loose 1 Fan , So what? There Are Billions Of NBA Fans Out there.

So I Guess it down to 999,999,999,998

[QUOTE=raptorfan_dr07]"pussify"[/QUOTE]


love that word...........lol

i hear what you saying though

Honestly not to be fukked up, but I dont think anybody or the NBA gives a rats ass if your going to watch it or not....lol ur only 1 person out of millions...have fun watching the MLB then...:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Op was typing this while wearing a Big Baby Davis jersey.:cry:

I read that whole mess.

You might have had a point if you weren't so clearly just a wounded Celtics fan.

I mean... I hate the Lakers more than anyone on earth (Kings fan) but your post seemed to be in denial of the fact that you're just angry about last nights game.

Go have a beer.

[QUOTE=33teeth]I read that whole mess.

You might have had a point if you weren't so clearly just a wounded Celtics fan.

I mean... I hate the Lakers more than anyone on earth (Kings fan) but your post seemed to be in denial of the fact that you're just angry about last nights game.

Go have a beer.[/QUOTE]

He isn't a 'fan' of anyone. He watches the NBA solely in hopes of watching Kobe Bryant fail. The NBA audience needs less people like him. It's good riddance, really.