Re: What is Kobe's legacy if he beats Miami's big 3 in the finals?
[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]Kobe has been great in the playoffs besides the Finals in the past three seasons.. I think the rougher play in the east slows down Kobe's game but he has usually played smart once the playoffs begin...
Kobe, in my opinion has hurt his teams' REGULAR SEASON record with his play in the regular season.. I think him wanting to win the MVP too much hurt their record last year.....Gasol showed he was a great player when Kobe went out...[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes: Yea, it wasn't Gasol missing 15 games, or Bynum being gone for half of each season, or Kobe playing with a broken finger or a rolled ankle or anything else like that that stopped the Lakers in the regular season. Nope it was Kobe gunning for MVP that did them in to the tune of three straight #1 seeds. Yup damn that Kobe.
Re: What is Kobe's legacy if he beats Miami's big 3 in the finals?
Kobe's legacy if he beats Miami will be exactly the same as if he beat any other Finalist this year. He still has the more talented team top to bottom, along with the most dominant frontcourt. Miami simply cannot match up with LA's size and length, and that's why you can be sure that LA will be the odds-on favorite to win the title this year regardless of the Lebron/Wade/Bosh triumvirate. Go check what Vegas says and let me know who the favorite is.
Re: What is Kobe's legacy if he beats Miami's big 3 in the finals?
[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall]Go check what Vegas says and let me know who the favorite is.[/QUOTE]
Miami is at 7/5 (ridiculous!!). Lakers at 7/2. Miami is the huge favorite on every single betting line. You should bet some serious $ n LA if you're so sure. Even if they don't win, you get to watch Kobe lose, which I'm sure you'd find enjoyable :confusedshrug:
Re: What is Kobe's legacy if he beats Miami's big 3 in the finals?
[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall]Kobe's legacy if he beats Miami will be exactly the same as if he beat any other Finalist this year. He still has the more talented team top to bottom, along with the most dominant frontcourt. Miami simply cannot match up with LA's size and length, and that's why you can be sure that LA will be the odds-on favorite to win the title this year regardless of the Lebron/Wade/Bosh triumvirate. Go check what Vegas says and let me know who the favorite is.[/QUOTE]
Bodog has the Heat at 7/4 with the Lakers at 11/4 :confusedshrug: . Pretty sure Vegas also has Miami as the favorite atm.
Re: What is Kobe's legacy if he beats Miami's big 3 in the finals?
[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall]Kobe's legacy if he beats Miami will be exactly the same as if he beat any other Finalist this year. He still has the more talented team top to bottom, along with the most dominant frontcourt. Miami simply cannot match up with LA's size and length, and that's why you can be sure that LA will be the odds-on favorite to win the title this year regardless of the Lebron/Wade/Bosh triumvirate. Go check what Vegas says and let me know who the favorite is.[/QUOTE]
vegas says miami.
if kobe has 6, he's top 3 (mj and russell)
Re: What is Kobe's legacy if he beats Miami's big 3 in the finals?
[QUOTE=stickfigure87]vegas says miami.
if kobe has 6, he's top 3 (mj and russell)[/QUOTE]
I'd slot him in at 4 behind MJ,Kareem, and Russell
Re: What is Kobe's legacy if he beats Miami's big 3 in the finals?
We'll see what they a month or two into the season, then, It's all hype right now. Can't really set good odds on a product no one has seen play. If they're still the favorite by mid-December, I'll be shocked.
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LOL so the Lakers are STILL the most talented team. Gotta love this guy, will never give credit. Its a personal vendetta for him, gotta appreciate his dedication to it <3
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[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall]We'll see what they a month or two into the season, then, It's all hype right now. Can't really set good odds on a product no one has seen play. If they're still the favorite by mid-December, I'll be shocked.[/QUOTE]
Bet some money if you're so sure. Sounds like easy money judging by your analysis.
Re: What is Kobe's legacy if he beats Miami's big 3 in the finals?
lol @ the Lakers being more talented than the Heat. lol @ using the phrase "top to bottom" after going on and on about how depth doesn't matter in the playoffs in response to posters questioning the Lakers bench. :roll:
Re: What is Kobe's legacy if he beats Miami's big 3 in the finals?
[QUOTE=Andrei89]Pretend like you didn't know that
there are 2 options now
1: you pretended you didn't know that
2: you didn't know that which immediatly makes u a fake fanboy[/QUOTE]
:confusedshrug:
Re: What is Kobe's legacy if he beats Miami's big 3 in the finals?
[QUOTE=imdaman99]LOL so the Lakers are STILL the most talented team. Gotta love this guy, will never give credit. Its a personal vendetta for him, gotta appreciate his dedication to it <3[/QUOTE]
Top to bottom, they're the most talented, yes. Top 3 Miami is the most talented, obviously. On top of that, size wins ballgames, and I refuse to believe that even a dominant perimeter tandem (and a soft big man like Bosh) can beat a dominant frontcourt like Odom/Bynum/Gasol (plus Ratliffe defensively now). We'll see I suppose.
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[QUOTE=Jacks3]lol @ the Lakers being more talented than the Heat. lol @ using the phrase "top to bottom" after going on and on about how depth doesn't matter in the playoffs in response to posters questioning the Lakers bench. :roll:[/QUOTE]
By "top to bottom," I mean 1-6 or 1-7 tops, not 1-10. People like you were complaining about LA's #7-10 players, which is what I was speaking to when I made those remarks. And I stand by that. A team's top 6 or 7 (max) players being great is more important than their top 6 or 7 being less great but having a better 7-10.
Re: What is Kobe's legacy if he beats Miami's big 3 in the finals?
I currently have him at #9. If he wins league MVP & beats Miami in the Finals he will leap to the #7 spot.
Re: What is Kobe's legacy if he beats Miami's big 3 in the finals?
[QUOTE=Jacks3]:facepalm
Kobe's legacy is dependent on how good a basketball player he is, not how much he wins. If he has another brilliant post-season and a epic Finals he'll move up, but if he wins will playing average or mediocre it won't matter. He'll still be top 10-15 All-Time, which is absolutely amazing considering he's only 31.
But he'll never surpass...
Wilt
Kareem
Shaq
Jordan[/QUOTE]
What the heck??? By far the most logical thing I've ever seen this kid post. Did someone hack his account???