Re: Rank the top 10 Small Forwards in the NBA
[QUOTE=Clutch]What's actually the worst is the fact that Durant doesn't even have better stats
[B]Carmelo Anthony per 36 minutes:
25.8 PPG , 7.4 RPG , 2.9 APG .455 / .378 / .838
Kevin Durant per 36 minutes:
25.6 PPG , 6.3 RPG , 2.5 APG .462 / .350 / .880[/B]
If joyner wants to have stats battle then if we just look at stats Melo is a better rebounder,passer and 3-pt shooter while Durant is only better at shooting free-throws.
Unless you see his 0.7 % better field goal percentage as advantage :oldlol:
If you want to base your opinion on games you watched then Melo is better.
Much more versatile scorer,better rebounder,best game-winning shot maker since he entered the league...
Only advantage that Durant has is defense and I think that's arguable.
Tell me one reason why Durant is better than Melo and spare me TS % crap or similar things.[/QUOTE]
Lol.
Knicks WISH Carmelo Anthony could play more than 38 mpg. but... What if Kevin Durant shoot as much as Carmelo? He would score more. Kevin Durant is not even a good exemple of shot selection, and he is WAY MORE EFFICIENT than Melo. TS% and eFG% back up that, and also, FG% is not a very good metric since the three-point line was invented. If we compare Carmelo and Durant in scoring, Durant is much better, because he scores the same amount, being a much more efficient player. Comparing Carmelo Anthony and Kevin Durant as scorers, is like comparing Iverson and Kobe as scorers, like comparing DeMarcus Cousins and Nene as scorers.
Carmelo Anthony is a ball stopper. Every possession he has, he takes, dribble and isolate. He has a polished isolation game, but he does not come off screes and does not play good basketball off the ball. Kevin Durant is a much more balanced scorer also. His isolation game is not as good as Carmelo, but he is efficient playing that possession, and he uses the isolation much more often than Carmelo plays off the ball. So Kevin Durant is not more efficient as score, but he is more versatile when scoring. You know Carmelo will isolate to score his next bucket. But you don't know if Kevin Durant will isolate, will come off a screen, will cut, will pick and pop, will alley oop...
Also, Kevin Durant puts much more effort at defensive end, and has much more lenght that allow him to guard multiple positions, also, he has potential o be a much better defender than he is now, he just need to keep working that aspect of his game. He already is a decent defender,
Kevin Durant this year's playoffs was better than any playoffs version of Carmelo Anthony.
Re: Rank the top 10 Small Forwards in the NBA
1. LeBron
2. 'Melo
3. Durant
4. Pierce
5. Gay
6. Granger
7. Igoudala
8. Deng
9. Wallace
10. Marion
Re: Ranking the best NBA small forwards, summer of 2011
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Carmello Anthony
4. Paul Pierce
5. ?? Gay? Granger? Iggy? Deng? Marion? Wallace?
Re: Rank the top 10 Small Forwards in the NBA
[QUOTE=28renyoy]The top 3 in order are clearly
James
Durant
Anthony
anyone with any other order than that is a homer/hater, including those ranking Durant ahead of LeBron[/QUOTE]
Agreed
Re: Ranking the best NBA small forwards, summer of 2011
[QUOTE=JSmooth]josh smith[/QUOTE]
Power forward.
Re: Ranking the best NBA small forwards, summer of 2011
It becomes a complete crap-shoot after Durant, LeBron, Melo, Pierce. These guys are pretty much the consensus top four.
Re: Ranking the best NBA small forwards, summer of 2011
[QUOTE=pete's montreux]It becomes a complete crap-shoot after Durant, LeBron, Melo, Pierce. These guys are pretty much the consensus top four.[/QUOTE]
:wtf: I hope that wasn't in order...
Re: Rank the top 10 Small Forwards in the NBA
[QUOTE=28renyoy]Gallo is a PF. Iguodala is a SG
Beasley, Turkoglu, Stephen Jackson, and Ariza are not better than Chandler.[/QUOTE]
Iguodala is a SF genius. You dont watch much bball I see. :facepalm
Re: Ranking the best NBA small forwards, summer of 2011
the only stat that matter is winning. thats why melo is not as efficient as durant because he is the one who scores when tough situation arises or the thing you called clutch. while durant is like lebron who scores more in the 1st quarter where defenses are not yet tight then leave it to westbrook when the going gets tough. durant and lebron are what you called statpadders while melo and kobe who are inefficient are the winners. melo-durant(11-1) melo-lebron(11-4). melo might be a first round exit but it was at the time when the elite teams(spurs, dallas, lakers, suns) are on its peak while durant made it to the conference finals because the elite ones are past their primes. its the same with lebron, he was on a weak conference. but still, even when he got underrated because of his first round exits, he still chooses to be in the east where teams are becoming better than the west. that shows the mental toughness of melo. this guy is a badass like kobe,jordan, bird. most badass have that killer instinct.while lebron, on the other hand, chose to team up with another top player.
Re: Ranking the best NBA small forwards, summer of 2011
[QUOTE=knicksman]the only stat that matter is winning. thats why melo is not as efficient as durant because he is the one who scores when tough situation arises or the thing you called clutch. while durant is like lebron who scores more in the 1st quarter where defenses are not yet tight then leave it to westbrook when the going gets tough. durant and lebron are what you called statpadders while melo and kobe who are inefficient are the winners. melo-durant(11-1) melo-lebron(11-4). melo might be a first round exit but it was at the time when the elite teams(spurs, dallas, lakers, suns) are on its peak while durant made it to the conference finals because the elite ones are past their primes. its the same with lebron, he was on a weak conference. but still, even when he got underrated because of his first round exits, he still chooses to be in the east where teams are becoming better than the west. that shows the mental toughness of melo. this guy is a badass like kobe,jordan, bird. most badass have that killer instinct.while lebron, on the other hand, chose to team up with another top player.[/QUOTE]
When someone thinks Melo is better than Durant, I begin to worry about them. When they think Melo is better than LeBron, I realize that they either a troll or just plain retarded.
Re: Ranking the best NBA small forwards, summer of 2011
[QUOTE=knicksman]the only stat that matter is winning. thats why melo is not as efficient as durant because he is the one who scores when tough situation arises or the thing you called clutch. while durant is like lebron who scores more in the 1st quarter where defenses are not yet tight then leave it to westbrook when the going gets tough. durant and lebron are what you called statpadders while melo and kobe who are inefficient are the winners. melo-durant(11-1) melo-lebron(11-4). melo might be a first round exit but it was at the time when the elite teams(spurs, dallas, lakers, suns) are on its peak while durant made it to the conference finals because the elite ones are past their primes. its the same with lebron, he was on a weak conference. but still, even when he got underrated because of his first round exits, he still chooses to be in the east where teams are becoming better than the west. that shows the mental toughness of melo. this guy is a badass like kobe,jordan, bird. most badass have that killer instinct.[B]while lebron, on the other hand, chose to team up with another top player[/B].[/QUOTE]
Didn't melo team up with amare? amare is not exactly scrub
Re: Ranking the best NBA small forwards, summer of 2011
[QUOTE=RRR3]When someone thinks Melo is better than Durant, I begin to worry about them. When they think Melo is better than LeBron, I realize that they either a troll or just plain retarded.[/QUOTE]
better for me is based on impact and not stats. stats are for kids or idiots like you. melo has better impact than lebron. and thats the reason why melo is 11-4 against lebron because of impact.
Re: Ranking the best NBA small forwards, summer of 2011
[QUOTE=ballerz]Didn't melo team up with amare? amare is not exactly scrub[/QUOTE]
he was forced to team up coz he wants to compete. i doubt melo is joining new york if lebron never did it first.
Re: Ranking the best NBA small forwards, summer of 2011
[QUOTE=knicksman]better for me is based on impact and not stats. stats are for kids or idiots like you. melo has better impact than lebron. and thats the reason why melo is 11-4 against lebron because of impact.[/QUOTE]
It's a team game you moron. You have to admit that LeBron>>>>>Kobe then, because LeBron is 10-5 against Kobe.
Re: Ranking the best NBA small forwards, summer of 2011
[QUOTE=knicksman]he was forced to team up coz he wants to compete. i doubt melo is joining new york if lebron never did it first.[/QUOTE]
He wasn't forced to join up with STAT. Before the trade deadline amare had made new york relevant again and melo demanded a trade there.