Wilt Chamberlian vs. Kobe Bryant

[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Wilt beat up on friggin bums[/QUOTE]

How about this...

In Wilt's LAST season, at age 36, he was voted first-team all-defense; he LED the NBA in rebounding (and then averaged 22.5 rpg in his 17 post-season games, which was the last time a player ever averaged as much as 17.3 rpg in the post-season); he shot .727 from the field, which is an all-time record; he led his Laker team to a 60-22 record, and a trip to the Finals; and he finished 4th in the MVP voting...

in a league that centers like McAdoo, Cowens, Hayes, Reed, Bellamy, Thurmond, Unseld, Lanier, and Kareem...once again...ALL in the HOF.

I do feel in terms of perimeter players that Kobe only stands behind MJ peak value wise. I know many of u will say what about Magic or Bird. Or maybe even West or Big O? I think in particular Magic, Bird, and Big O have a case as the second best perimeter player ever in terms of peak. But I would go with Kobe as the second best perimeter player ever peak value wise.

But a GOAT list includes longevity being great, team accolades, solo accolades, numbers, and impact on the L. Kobe holds his own and even eclipses Magic and Bird in some of these areas. But when it comes to impact on the L, I still think Magic and Bird have the edge on Kobe. If anything because Bird and Magic are the ones who set the NBA in motion for what we see today. I give Doc major props for being the forerunner. But he didn't really get to bask in the glow of the marketing schemes in his prime. Bird and Magic were the ones to get the marketing ball really rolling, setting the table for MJ to really take it and run with it. And each man revolutionized their positions as well.

I think a guy like Bron could have the best shot to challenge MJ at the top. Because Bron revolutionized his position. And is the face of the L. But the question is will he have more killer instinct moments and win some rings. If he does, u are looking at a guy who could possibly ring up at least 30,000 points and around 9-10,000 assists. Which has never been done. Hell NOBODY has even got 20,000 points and 10,000 assists in a career yet. By all rights, Magic SHOULD have been the guy to do it first. But Bron has the chance to really shake up the GOAT list and put up some of the gaudiest career numbers in sports history.

[quote=SilkkTheShocker]Wilt beat up on friggin bums[/quote]

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFrhKI63e80#t=1m55s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFrhKI63e80#t=1m55s[/URL]


Above we can see how easily he obtains proper position and slams over strong 6'9 240 lb C/F Ray Scott. This is perhaps what it would look like if Chamberlain faced today's centers. Nobody besides Howard can even think of respectably matching up against him.

[QUOTE=jlauber]How about this...

In Wilt's LAST season, at age 36, he was voted first-team all-defense; he LED the NBA in rebounding (and then averaged 22.5 rpg in his 17 post-season games, which was the last time a player ever averaged as much as 17.3 rpg in the post-season); he shot .727 from the field, which is an all-time record; he led his Laker team to a 60-22 record, and a trip to the Finals; and he finished 4th in the MVP voting...

in a league that centers like McAdoo, Cowens, Hayes, Reed, Bellamy, Thurmond, Unseld, Lanier, and Kareem...once again...ALL in the HOF.[/QUOTE]

Good points! People sleep on the great longevity Wilt had in his career as a great player. He started as a great player AND ended as a great player. I think only Kareem had greater longevity being great at the center spot. And even when Kareem wasn't great, he was still one of the best centers in L during a peak time for centers.

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Didn't Kobe say Wilt was the GOAT once?

[QUOTE=RRR3]Didn't Kobe say Wilt was the GOAT once?[/QUOTE]
He said

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=78UnLCWORtQ[/url]

HumbleBE knows who's best

[QUOTE=jacobgoindum]name me another 7 footer who played in the 60s
name me another player who weighed over 250 pounds in the 60's[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=jlauber]Just off the top of my head...Swede Habrook was 7-3. Mel Counts, Hank Finkle, Walter Dukes, Tom Boerwinkle were all 7-0. 7-2 Kareem played in 1969.

Boerwinkle, Luke Jackson, Wayne Embry were all over 250 lbs.

BTW, players were measured in barefeet in the 60's and 70's. So the MANY of them that were 6-11 (Bellamy and Thurmond among them) would have been measured, and listed, at over 7-0 in TODAY's NBA.

BTW, Kareem faced many of the same centers that a PRIME Chamberlain did, and never came CLOSE to matching a prime Chamberlain's domination of those same players.[/QUOTE]

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Embry peaked at 270, Bellamy 265, Boerwinkle 275, Lanier 286lbs etc. Which centers are bigger than that in the league today? Which centers are taller than Swede?

Kobes Brian