OT: The size of earth..........

[QUOTE=B-Low]When you see just how small earth is in this universe it really makes people who think Earth has the only life look stupid[/QUOTE]

On the flip side, apperently there is a 0.0000something % chance of there ever being another ideal living condition for life to sustain. Factoring in breathable air, ideal climate, perfect distance from a sun, perfect size for gravitational pull, cluster of planets which may be able to protect it from an onslaught of meteors..... So it may be probable, it's almost immpossible.


The stupid thing is, we as a species are destroying that perfect condition slowly.

What makes you think that other life forms need those exact conditions to live?

Just cause humans need it doesn't mean every other lifeform in the universe does too.


GOBB is so right though. Humans are patheticly arrogent and narrow minded in thinking that we're the ONLY life forms in the ENTIRE universe.

[QUOTE=Jerm]I feel that time and matter are not connected, but that our measurement of time is connected to matter.

The fact that a second spent on the north pole is different from a second spent in a car traveling west at the equator at sea level and is also different from a super-sonic jet traveling high above the earth bothers me at a fundamental level and is unbeleivable.

This isn't a matter of seconds being lost. It is hte fact that 24 hours in one place can mean 50 years in another. The universe will have a hard time functioning if nothing obeys a time line. There is a time line which is why our universe can be able to even operate. Yesterday is yesterday. You can't go in a flight travelling at the speed of light and see your dead grandpa or see yourself when your balls haven't dropped. These are things that make me beleive that at a fundamental level, these things are wrong.[/QUOTE]

It may bother you but it truly is that way.
One thing you're confusing is that you can't manipulate time to go in to the past. But you can slow it for yourself so that you end up in the future relative to where you started. Time has one direction and that's foward. So even if you do manipulate it, you're manipulating it in the direction of the future, not the past.

Yesterday will always be yesterday because you'd need to be able to travel faster than the speed of light to be able to beat light from earth to the observation point, and that's not possible.

Whether it seems unnatural to you or not, time slowing down at high speeds has been proven through experimentation. You don't need to worry about it because we'd need to acheive incredibly high speed (fractions of light speed) for the effect to be noticable and we're not capable of doing that for now.

Did I say it was entirely impossible? Read again.

The point of my post was to state that humans ARE ignorant to the fact that we have close to THE perfect living conditions and we take it for granted.

[QUOTE=hateraid]Did I say it was entirely impossible? Read again.

The point of my post was to state that humans ARE ignorant to the fact that we have close to THE perfect living conditions and we take it for granted.[/QUOTE]

Yeah because a .000000something % doesn't imply that you're saying its impossible. What I'm saying is, we have a perfect conditions for HUMANS to survive.

Other planets may have other conditions for other lifeforms to survive.

[QUOTE=PureElement]if earth was the size of a quarter, the biggest sun would be the size of the earth.[/QUOTE]

haha.. there goes that idea!

I find reality too much of a spin out to be something randomly that just popped up.

dang uranus is huge:banana:

[QUOTE=ShannonElements]I believe that somewhere in deep space, there is a giant teapot - the size of 1 googolplex of our sun - floating around, but I have no proof of its existence. BUT, you also cannot prove that it does NOT exist...

God can be viewed in a similar light.[/QUOTE]

The thing is that people have presented miracles to show that this is God at work. Miracles that beat logical explainations. From both the biblical days and present days, miraculous events attributed to the power of God has been reported. This is one reason why billions of people believe that there is a God. You don't need to see him to believe it, all you have to do is experience him in your life. It's funny how countless atheists after coming close to death or contracting a terminal illness suddenly believe that there is a God and go out to experience him instead of asking people to show them God himself.

[QUOTE]Whether it seems unnatural to you or not, time slowing down at high speeds has been proven through experimentation. You don't need to worry about it because we'd need to acheive incredibly high speed (fractions of light speed) for the effect to be noticable and we're not capable of doing that for now.[/QUOTE]

You do know that due to the distance of certain galaxies from the earth, we see them how they were millions of years ago. Now if man can somehow move at the speed of light or even faster and travel to another galaxy. Chances are that we will expect him to see the earth how it was a million years before his arrival there which is completely ridiculous when you begin to list the implications of a universe with that sort of possibility. A universe where you can experience 2 lives per se.

Now forget about travelling backwards. Let's say you travel forwards in time and see the world a million years later. How can 1 human being age and another won't?...These things do not make sense. It applies to electrons and protons doesn't mean it will apply to a human being ( who is made up of these electrons/protons/neutrons by the way). This is why I insist that time in itself, the period from one moment to another is ****ing independent of matter but the way we measure it isn't. Sometimes science that goes beyong possibilities even when proven right mathematically just can't be true. The earth obeys Newtonian laws for a reason. We don't operate at high speeds because humans aren't subject to time dilation. This is what I think about this subject, it just can't apply to human being because time for us has to be absolute even though how me measure it doesn't have to be. A man can't be ageing while the other one isn't.

Solid Snake is a moron. I dont believe in any religion, just that a supreme being exists...GOD. You obviously read another mans reasoning/opinion on why things exists, how they were created etc etc and bought it. Good for u.

God D*** Jerm is an idiot. I tried to be nice cuz i thought i was getting to him so i made that gay post about "come to the darkside" so that he could feel better, and now i check on the topic and he is acting like a ****ing idiot. Why cant you get it through your thick skull that what we are saying is true. Jesus, just stop....you are too stupid to grasp the idea. Just keep saying "i call shenanagins" and "i dont believe it" and you will feel much better.

[QUOTE=SHADYMILKMAN]God D*** Jerm is an idiot. I tried to be nice cuz i thought i was getting to him so i made that gay post about "come to the darkside" so that he could feel better, and now i check on the topic and he is acting like a ****ing idiot. Why cant you get it through your thick skull that what we are saying is true. Jesus, just stop....you are too stupid to grasp the idea. Just keep saying "i call shenanagins" and "i dont believe it" and you will feel much better.[/QUOTE]


:roll: :applause: Check your reputation, he probably gave you 100 negatives.

lol yea pretty much....every post he didnt agree with he gave me negative. Well, thats my relative theory on it.

"You currently have -2 reputation points."

lol i had 8 last time i looked.

[QUOTE]lol yea pretty much....every post he didnt agree with he gave me negative. Well, thats my relative theory on it.
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You're dumb. I can't give you a rep. more than once because I gotta spread it around or something. Goes to show how your rep. has gone from 8 to -2 based on your idiocy in this thread while mine has gone from -15 to -8. Who's the idiot that can't make a coherent argument again?:confusedshrug:

Well, seeing as you had -15 rep before, and even give a **** about rep for that matter, the idiot would be you.