Charles Barkley: Zimmer was right to be acquitted

[QUOTE=LJJ]Isn't this the transcript: [url]http://www.motherjones.com/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman[/url]

I don't see Zimmerman saying he's pursuing Martin. Shocking that you actually believe Zimmerman said that on the tape, this is how your mind plays tricks on you.[/QUOTE]

Zimmerman even gets out of his truck at one point (when he says "sh*t he's running") and starts running after him.. You can tell he is [B]pursuing[/B] him.. Even the dispatcher notices it... Is that not pursuit? Or is that only "following" :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Nanners]"race" is kind of a strange idea. humans are the only species where individuals with phenotypic differences get called different "races". with other animals such as cats and dogs, we refer to phenotype differences as "breeds".

other than the color, is there any difference between a black cat and a white cat?[/QUOTE]

IDGAF about cats, but different breeds of dogs certainly have different temperaments and traits. Some dogs, like pit bulls, are more aggressive and violent while others are more docile. Some are generally smarter than others.

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]Zimmerman even gets out of his truck at one point (when he says "sh*t he's running") and starts running after him.. You can tell he is [B]pursuing[/B] him.. Even the dispatcher notices it... Is that not pursuit? Or is that only "following" :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Just a minute ago you were absolutely convinced Zimmerman said on the tape he was pursuing Martin. Now confronted with the facts you are changing your story to fit around them.

Which is a perfect example what you have been doing with every single fact you've been faced with since the start of this story. You have such a closed mind. Your mind has been made up ever since you read the first headline, let's be honest here.

[QUOTE=dude77]what are you referring to .. the skull shapes ? .. that's a fact .. this isn't speculation .. I'm talking about pure breeds .. not mixed people[/QUOTE]

It's not a fact. If it were a fact, then every "pure breed" would have consistent skull sizes. There would be no exceptions. However, there are exceptions.

Please, if you have any empirical evidence, show it to me.

[QUOTE=chosen_one6]It's not a fact. If it were a fact, then every "pure breed" would have consistent skull sizes. There would be no exceptions. However, there are exceptions.

Please, if you have any empirical evidence, show it to me.[/QUOTE]

there's always going to be some variations .. but those clear differences in skull shapes exist

[QUOTE=dude77]what are you referring to .. the skull shapes ? .. that's a fact .. this isn't speculation .. I'm talking about pure breeds .. not mixed people[/QUOTE]


Bogus....there is no scientific " facts" showing minor diffrencies amongst species means anything...

" Skull sizes?"...that's like saying Polynesians have diffrent "stomach sizes?"...

- yeah they have bigger stomachs.....it means nothing.....just like if someone is shorter or taller.....it means nothing.

- Skull size , stomach size , Brain size ( has no bearing on IQ), Leg size.....all mean absolutley nothing!

- According to science....there are no " races"...just minor cosmetic difference among 1 species...( that can change very easily)

Just like the GZ trial...there are FACTS....and there are hear say.


Iam going with my expierience backed up by the Facts/Science......

[QUOTE=LJJ]Just a minute ago you were absolutely convinced Zimmerman said on the tape he was pursuing Martin. Now confronted with the facts you are changing your story to fit around them.

Which is a perfect example what you have been doing with every single fact you've been faced with since the start of this story. You have such a closed mind. Your mind has been made up ever since you read the first headline, let's be honest here.[/QUOTE]


Like I already said you are playing a weak semantics game...

George Zimmerman [B]pursues [/B]trayvon and even admits it on the tape..The dispatch asks him and he admits it... he even chases him at one point

There is no evidence that trayvon ever pursued Zimmerman...

You can nitpick the words if you want but it is a silly distinction to try and make and as usual you are wasting space and time..

[QUOTE=dude77]there's always going to be some variations .. but those clear differences in skull shapes exist[/QUOTE]

I asked you to show me evidence and you give me nothing. Read this article:

[URL="http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2011/01/alas_poor_yorick_or_is_it_othello.html"]http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2011/01/alas_poor_yorick_or_is_it_othello.html[/URL]

And trust me, there are many more like it debunking your claim.

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[QUOTE=Rasheed1]Like I already said you are playing a weak semantics game...

George Zimmerman [B]pursues [/B]trayvon and even admits it on the tape..The dispatch asks him and he admits it... he even chases him at one point

There is no evidence that trayvon ever pursued Zimmerman...

You can nitpick the words if you want but it is a silly distinction to try and make and as usual you are wasting space and time..[/QUOTE]

Everybody reads in college about confirmation bias, but it's so weird to see it practiced in real life with such vehemence.

"No he DID say he was pursuing Martin. I don't care if it's not on the tape, I KNOW this happened." Lol. okayyy

[QUOTE=dude77]pur

[QUOTE=LJJ]Everybody reads in college about confirmation bias, but it's so weird to see it practiced in real life with such vehemence.

"No he DID say he was pursuing Martin. I don't care if it's not on the tape, I KNOW this happened." Lol. okayyy[/QUOTE]


"Hehe he didnt actullay say the word "pursue" gotcha hehe" :facepalm jesus christ



like I said... There is no evidence that Trayvon pursued Zimmerman..But there is evidence of Zimmerman pursuing trayvon.. If you wanna nitpick the words (follow vs pursue), I wont waste time with you Because it is a silly argument designed to distract from the point.

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]exactly and that is racial profiling.. The profile of the criminal is a black person... Just like the profile of the terrorist is muslim..

so you suspect Muslims/Blacks because the people who did the crime were black/muslim too.[/QUOTE]


Racial profiling is based solely on race. It doesn't take into account anything other than race. Age, height, weight, facial hair, clothing, etc don't matter.

GZ was looking specifically for a black TEEN, not a 30, 40, or 50 year old black man. Not a fat black man or a black man with braids...

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]He could have kept "track" of him in the car... He was warned not to "track" "pursue" "follow" "chase" trayvon martin and he did it anyway..

If he listens? no one gets killed that night.. That is the point..

Nothing happens if George listens to the advice of the dispatch officer[/QUOTE]

gz was under no obligation to stay in his car .. none ..

why does everyone keep saying that shit ? he was in his own fkn neighborhood ..

gz wasn't looking for a fight .. and you all now that .. tm however .. well he liked to 'make em bleed'

[QUOTE=LJJ]To pursue someone means you have the intent to catch or attack them. Zimmerman never said he was doing that, he said he was following Martin. [B]Martin is the one who initiated a violent confrontation.[/B]


It's really quite worrysome that you would misrepresent the facts like that in your head. Zimmerman was pursuing Martin now, by his own account. That's what you actually make yourself believe.[/QUOTE]


How exactly do you know Martin is the one who initiated the violent confrontation? Just because he was kicking GZ's ass doesn't mean he initiated it.