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[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Link to article about Dirk's dad? I never heard that before...[/QUOTE]
Dirk never talk about it b/c he didnt want excuses but his sis talk about it
[url]http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/4094/a-close-look-at-dirk-nowitzki[/url]
[QUOTE=Black and White]Wrong, it is not clear cut, they were both as good as each other, but on the offensive end i think z-bo was the first option, gasol was second[/QUOTE]
Ok if i give u that Zbo wasnt even top 3 best defender for them
Marc
Tony
Conley
all more important for defense
so when u look at both ends Marc was their best
[QUOTE=Hamtaro CP3KDKG]Dirk never talk about it b/c he didnt want excuses but his sis talk about it
[url]http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/4094/a-close-look-at-dirk-nowitzki[/url][/QUOTE]
Wow...I can't believe I never heard about that.
There were rumors in Dallas about something being wrong with Dirk emotionally the last month of the season, but there was a lot of speculation he was hiding an injury.
Cool...thanks for that. :cheers:
[QUOTE=Hamtaro CP3KDKG]Ok if i give u that Zbo wasnt even top 3 best defender for them
Marc
Tony
Conley
all more important for defense
so when u look at both ends Marc was their best[/QUOTE]
I don't think it's quite as clear as you do, but I think Gasol was their overall best player...or at least most important.
I do think Z-Bo was the clear cut go to guy on offense though.
Dirk in replace of Durant on the Thunder would have won a title IMO. Main reasons:
1. Dirk would have a playmaker/ball handler on his team, Dirk isn't a playmaker ofcource (2ast type player) but he would have Westbrook, that's an automatic upgrade over Terry and Barea combined.
2. Ibaka>>>Chandler...Ibaka not only brings you defense and rebounding like Chandler, but he does it more consistently and better while having a better offensive game.
3. Giving Dirk THAT team, including how much better in the 4th Dirk is than Durant, Dirk's Thunder beat Heat in 12'.
But that's all hypotheticals and pure speculation on my part....Neway, I choose Dirk. Yea, Durant is a better scorer, but Dirk has that winning blood that gives him the edge over Durant here. Yea Dirk shot like 42% in the Finals, but watching those games he effected the whole team because the defenses were geared to stop him and he still dominated 4th quarters and closed games. Same shit with Kobe shooting 43% vs Magic, he dominated and had a huge impact 34ppg 7reb 6ast and defensive attention being glued to him freeing up Gasol...Players like Dirk, Kobe have winning blood....So yea, Dirk>>>Durant for me.
[QUOTE=branslowski]Dirk in replace of Durant on the Thunder would have won a title IMO. Main reasons:
1. Dirk would have a playmaker/ball handler on his team, Dirk isn't a playmaker ofcource (2ast type player) but he would have Westbrook, that's an automatic upgrade over Terry and Barea combined.
2. Ibaka>>>Chandler...Ibaka not only brings you defense and rebounding like Chandler, but he does it more consistently and better while having a better offensive game.
3. Giving Dirk THAT team, including how much better in the 4th Dirk is than Durant, Dirk's Thunder beat Heat in 12'.
But that's all hypotheticals and pure speculation on my part....Neway, I choose Dirk. Yea, Durant is a better scorer, but Dirk has that winning blood that gives him the edge over Durant here. Yea Dirk shot like 42% in the Finals, but watching those games he effected the whole team because the defenses were geared to stop him and he still dominated 4th quarters and closed games. Same shit with Kobe shooting 43% vs Magic, he dominated and had a huge impact 34ppg 7reb 6ast and defensive attention being glued to him freeing up Gasol...Players like Dirk, Kobe have winning blood....So yea, Dirk>>>Durant for me.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=branslowski]Dirk in replace of Durant on the Thunder would have won a title IMO. Main reasons:
1. Dirk would have a playmaker/ball handler on his team, Dirk isn't a playmaker ofcource (2ast type player) but he would have Westbrook, that's an automatic upgrade over Terry and Barea combined.
2. Ibaka>>>Chandler...Ibaka not only brings you defense and rebounding like Chandler, but he does it more consistently and better while having a better offensive game.
3. Giving Dirk THAT team, including how much better in the 4th Dirk is than Durant, Dirk's Thunder beat Heat in 12'.
But that's all hypotheticals and pure speculation on my part....Neway, I choose Dirk. Yea, Durant is a better scorer, but Dirk has that winning blood that gives him the edge over Durant here. Yea Dirk shot like 42% in the Finals, but watching those games he effected the whole team because the defenses were geared to stop him and he still dominated 4th quarters and closed games. Same shit with Kobe shooting 43% vs Magic, he dominated and had a huge impact 34ppg 7reb 6ast and defensive attention being glued to him freeing up Gasol...Players like Dirk, Kobe have winning blood....So yea, Dirk>>>Durant for me.[/QUOTE]
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Cosigning "winning blood" and "killer instinct" as a basis for argument? Really?:coleman:
[QUOTE=moe94]Cosigning "winning blood" and "killer instinct" as a basis for argument? Really?:coleman:[/QUOTE]
Yeah, let's rather add "intimidation" to the equation, like "Pointguard".
[QUOTE=moe94]Cosigning "winning blood" and "killer instinct" as a basis for argument? Really?:coleman:[/QUOTE]
you don't know about that winning blood? It's a lot better than losing blood
[QUOTE=moe94]Cosigning "winning blood" and "killer instinct" as a basis for argument? Really?:coleman:[/QUOTE]
It's what he means by it. We know Brans and what he means by that...he's talking about tangible stuff.
I'm a huge Durant fan...he's going to be a top 20 player when it's all said and done imo...
But if he wants to be on Dirk's level...he needs to win a title with the kind of rosters he's had now since 11
There is a reason why Dirk improves his teams' offense so much vs Durant.
Regular season? Dirk improve his teams offense by 9.3 points per 100 possessions
Durant improves it by 5.1
Playoffs? Dirk improves it by 6.2
The Thunder actually get better offensively without Durant in the playoffs by 1.2 points. This is not me saying Durant doesn't make the Thunder much better offensively...he of course does...It's a limited sample size and just speaks to how good the Thunder can still be without him on the floor.
But those numbers represent a little of the hidden value of what Dirk brings. A 7 foot elite shooting/scoring pf that is elite and running pick and rolls and spaces the floor has huge value that doesn't show up in the stat sheets.
I just don't think Durant is much better than his numbers...and his numbers are great, but Dirk is a guy that is way better than his numbers...as is a guy like Kobe. Don't think Durant falls into that category yet.
[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]you don't know about that winning blood? It's a lot better than losing blood[/QUOTE]
Please. Nobody is born with winning and losing blood.
Situations determine a lot on who wins and who doesn't.
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]Please. Nobody is born with winning and losing blood.
Situations determine a lot on who wins and who doesn't.[/QUOTE]
I think dude is being sarcastic.
[QUOTE=moe94]I think dude is being sarcastic.[/QUOTE]
Reading it again, your probably right. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=moe94]I think dude is being sarcastic.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]Reading it again, your probably right. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
:cheers:
'losing blood' get it..? :yaohappy:
losing blood is never a good thing