The Wilt Chamberlain Offensive Scouting Report Project Thread:

[QUOTE=Psileas]That's an enlightening graph. Since "at rim" shots are considered only the ones taken from <3 feet away and the pretty much most "bulldozer" prime versions of Shaq, the player who had by far the most dunks than any other since the early 90's, were taking less than 60% and, at times, less than 50% of their shots from that range, any notion of young Wilt (=the one trying to play with finesse and style rather than with power) taking 60-70% of their shots at rim is ridiculous. I especially feel so for rookie Wilt, who shot by far a career-low in FG%, yet his FT% was the 3rd highest of his career. This makes me suspect that rookie Wilt had by far the worst shooting selections of his career and therefore not many "at rim" shots at all.[/QUOTE]

And again, I suspect that in his first four seasons, Chamberlain was probably shooting 40-45+% from the field from 3-10 feet, which was better than Duncan, and other's at times, in their careers.

A preliminary look at the offensive rebound scoring section

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=askEKNB1ydY[/url]

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]A preliminary look at the offensive rebound scoring section

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OENXKgHKmhQ[/url][/QUOTE]
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A lot of great audio. BTW I noticed that on the putback, Wilt often went back up strong with a right- or two-handed dunk. I do agree that the finger roll was pleasant to look at and he mastered it as well as anybody could, but it's nice to see that after grabbing the offensive board, it was usually all power.

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A lot of great audio. BTW I noticed that on the putback, Wilt often went back up strong with a right- or two-handed dunk. I do agree that the finger roll was pleasant to look at and he mastered it as well as anybody could, but it's nice to see that after grabbing the offensive board, it was usually all power.[/QUOTE]
Don't know how you watched it seems the video is stuck in 144p with a choppy frame rate because Youtube sucks at render times like that these days :oldlol: anyways yeah I'm pretty sure that's all his offensive rebound points I've collected, if not it's almost all of them, and most are dunks yes. The fact that he's off the ball too means he moves people out of his way inside virtually at will to get at the ball. You'll notice that as soon as Youtube decides to stop playing the video back at 144p

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Don't know how you watched it seems the video is stuck in 144p with a choppy frame rate because Youtube sucks at render times like that these days :oldlol: anyways yeah I'm pretty sure that's all his offensive rebound points I've collected, if not it's almost all of them, and most are dunks yes. The fact that he's off the ball too means he moves people out of his way inside virtually at will to get at the ball. You'll notice that as soon as Youtube decides to stop playing the video back at 144p[/QUOTE]
Good stuff, I'll check out the higher quality version tomorrow, then.

From the footage I've seen, I don't remember anyone else being better at one handed, volleyball-style tip-ins than Wilt was. This kind of shot is a FG% pooper, yet Wilt seemed to score so at a pretty high conversion rate.

[QUOTE=Psileas]From the footage I've seen, I don't remember anyone else being better at one handed, volleyball-style tip-ins than Wilt was. This kind of shot is a FG% pooper, yet Wilt seemed to score so at a pretty high conversion rate.[/QUOTE]
I've read Wilt used to practice tap ins for hours in his youth.

minor update to the rebounding section [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=askEKNB1ydY[/url]

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]minor update to the rebounding section [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=askEKNB1ydY[/url][/QUOTE]
Anyone else watch this section yet? Thoughts?

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Anyone else watch this section yet? Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
Is the content different from the one above, or is it just higher quality? I'll watch it when I get home.

BTW did you ever settle on how to split the video up (if at all)?

[QUOTE=fpliii]Is the content different from the one above, or is it just higher quality? I'll watch it when I get home.

BTW did you ever settle on how to split the video up (if at all)?[/QUOTE]
Haven't settled on whether or not I'm splitting the passing yet but definitely for scoring it will be

Right block

Left block

Deep catches

Lobs

Transition

2-man

ORB

Good stuff oftentimes the audio is so good I lose focus.

This is great. I thought you were going to do it in scouting report style...

Rebounds:

Ability to gather himself quickly,
Bounce and second jump,
tapping skills,
rebounding in traffic.

But its great the way it is.

[QUOTE=Pointguard]Good stuff oftentimes the audio is so good I lose focus.

This is great. I thought you were going to do it in scouting report style...

Rebounds:

Ability to gather himself quickly,
Bounce and second jump,
tapping skills,
rebounding in traffic.

But its great the way it is.[/QUOTE]

If I was to include text like what you pointed out above it would take me a bit longer and you guys would need to help create/suggest these sub-categories such as what you've just done here, i'd need you guys to review the greater collection of clips and help sort from there what his strengths appear to be. The audio I like to have just to mask the music, the music alone sometimes is 'blocked' in countries but if I mask it with dialogue/etc everyone can see it plus it's just cool to hear, I try to keep it pertinent to each section. Anyways, I'm open to labeling what he's doing if you think I should it will just take a bit more time and organization and I will need feedback from you guys like what you've just given. What do you think?

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]If I was to include text like what you pointed out above it would take me a bit longer and you guys would need to help create/suggest these sub-categories such as what you've just done here, i'd need you guys to review the greater collection of clips and help sort from there what his strengths appear to be. The audio I like to have just to mask the music, the music alone sometimes is 'blocked' in countries but if I mask it with dialogue/etc everyone can see it plus it's just cool to hear, I try to keep it pertinent to each section. Anyways, I'm open to labeling what he's doing if you think I should it will just take a bit more time and organization and I will need feedback from you guys like what you've just given. What do you think?[/QUOTE]

Audio is great - so good I have to watch it twice because I was distracted in a good way.

You don't need more than four categories in rebounding and three might be better??? I don't want to suggest everything but I will lay out a basic template and you should reject probably half on what you know you have. And other people here will come up with better ideas.

Off the top of my head from this and another one I seen lately:


Tenacity.
Agility Ability to run the court, alley oops
In transition



Defense
Range coverage
.......lateral quickness
.......Radius from the basket

Use of size and strength
......vertical extension
......timing

Intimidation and second guessing

Offense
Post moves

Adjustments
......Spins
.......Left or Right

Touch

This is probably good enough and limits the organization time down some.

Just watched the 720p version, good stuff. The clips look great, and the audio is excellent (no clue how you find these gems :cheers: ).

So I'm thinking my recommendation for the main video would be:

1) intro
2) left block:
-primary move
-counter(s)
3) right block:
-primary move
-counter(s)
4) offensive rebounding

I think this would cover the bulk of his half-court scoring, which I think was the inspiration for the video. Though that still leaves:

Deep catches
Lobs
Transition
2-man

Maybe you should group offensive rebounding in with those categories? What do you want to do with passing (is that part of two man, or are those scores by Wilt)?

Also, did you decide if you're going to include a segment on high post play, and include some of his top of the key shooting from college? You could also include passing and screen-setting from the FT line (though I believe you and several others have said the time he spent in the high post is largely overstated).