Religion aside, abortion is wrong. All babies deserve a chance to live

[QUOTE=Godzuki]tldr :facepalm[/QUOTE]

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Abortions and Crime: Freakonomics Movie
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk6gOeggViw[/url]
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Levitt's Crime Research: Freakonomics Movie
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rDdMlKV2Mg[/url]
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[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]Abortions and Crime: Freakonomics Movie
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk6gOeggViw[/url]
Discuss

Levitt's Crime Research: Freakonomics Movie
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rDdMlKV2Mg[/url]
Discuss[/QUOTE]

Its a cheap road to take. Crime can be fixed by improving peoples quality of life, not by denying them life so they have no potential to be criminals. Thats just ignoring the real issue.

[QUOTE=sweggeh]Its a cheap road to take. [B][B]Crime can be fixed by improving peoples quality of life[/B][/B], not by denying them life so they have no potential to be criminals. Thats just ignoring the real issue.[/QUOTE]
Lets be honest, that would take money that this country isnt willing to spend.

Abortion when used as a form of contraception I completely disagree with.

However if a woman had gotten pregnant from being raped I'd have a hard time telling her she's in the wrong by getting an abortion. I'm still very much on the fence regarding this issue.

[QUOTE=step_back]Abortion when used as a form of contraception I completely disagree with.

However if a woman had gotten pregnant from being raped I'd have a hard time telling her she's in the wrong by getting an abortion. I'm still very much on the fence regarding this issue.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I agree with the rape thing, it gets really dicey at that point.

[QUOTE=step_back]Abortion when used as a form of contraception I completely disagree with.

[B]However if a woman had gotten pregnant from being raped I'd have a hard time telling her she's in the wrong by getting an abortion. I'm still very much on the fence regarding this issue.[/B][/QUOTE]
Abortions to prevent the birth of a baby conceived by rape are about 1% of all abortions.

Also medically necessary abortions are less than 1% of abortions.

If you believe that abortions should only be legal for rape and to save the mothers life, you believe that 98%+ of abortions should be illegal.

[QUOTE]Even though, according to Planned Parenthood’s own statistics, less than 1% of all abortions are performed on women who were raped or were victims of incest, pro-choice activists insist that abortion must be legal for these women, even if it leads to thousands of women a year having abortions for other reasons.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]Abortions to prevent the birth of a baby conceived by rape are about 1% of all abortions.

Also medically necessary abortions are less than 1% of abortions.

If you believe that abortions should only be legal for rape and to save the mothers life, you believe that 98%+ of abortions should be illegal.[/QUOTE]

Yes, exactly that.

[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]Lets be honest, [B]that would take money that this country isnt willing to spend.[/B][/QUOTE]
Greed, the source of these problems.











Next.

[QUOTE=BlkMambaGOAT]Greed, the source of these problems.

Next.[/QUOTE]
I wouldnt support the level of redistribution, I believe is needed to solve the poverty problem in America.

I want tax rates at the clinton levels, a full repeal of the bush tax cuts. That wouldnt be enough to eliminate poverty.

i dont think societies that tax at 50% of income or higher are fair societies. (nominal tax rates are meaningless, I am talking about actual effective tax rates)
Also that would hurt the economy in the long run

[QUOTE=sweggeh]Yes, exactly that.[/QUOTE]
Good luck repealing roe v. wade

[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]Good luck repealing roe v. wade[/QUOTE]

I told you that there are other ways of cleaning up crime than killing kids. The two are mutually exclusive.

[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]I wouldnt support the level of redistribution, I believe is needed to solve the poverty problem in America.

I want tax rates at the clinton levels, a full repeal of the bush tax cuts. That wouldnt be enough to eliminate poverty.

i dont think societies that tax at 50% of income or higher are fair societies. (nominal tax rates are meaningless, I am talking about actual effective tax rates)
Also that would hurt the economy in the long run[/QUOTE]
Ideally, they should cap the networth of every person to about $20 million then any money they have above $20 million is distributed to the poorest people in the country.

But that ain't happening since people want to make it rain 24/7. Any person that can't live a happy life with 20 million has a fvcking problem:facepalm

*Taxes will taken into consideration later.

[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]Abortions to prevent the birth of a baby conceived by rape are about 1% of all abortions.

Also medically necessary abortions are less than 1% of abortions.

If you believe that abortions should only be legal for rape and to save the mothers life, you believe that 98%+ of abortions should be illegal.[/QUOTE]

Then I disagree with 98% of abortions. Making it illegal to have an abortion if it's not from rape or medically necessary changes my attitude. I don't think abortions should be illegal. I like the idea of people being able to make decisions for themselves without the government stepping in.

I think we need to have a better approach to sex education out of wed lock. Contraception is still a taboo among many families.

[QUOTE=BlkMambaGOAT]Ideally, they should cap the networth of every person to about $20 million then any money they have above $10 million is distributed to the poorest people in the country.

But that ain't happening since people want to make it rain 24/7. Any person that can't live a happy life with 20 million has a fvcking problem:facepalm[/QUOTE]

Nah I dont agree with that, that would be terrible. You could always run into some crazy debt and need that money that you worked hard for. Plus 20m isnt enough for some lifestyles.