Re: What does LeBron need to do to be accepted as the GOAT?
[QUOTE=Soundwave]You wish that was true.
Heat were just paper tigers, punch them in the nose, get some blood of them, and they run away. No fight, no heart.
They won on talent (and some Ray Allen flukiness) and nothing else and that only gets you there half the time.
The Spurs aren't unbeatable, they're an old ass team that exploited the fact that the Heat don't play well together as a team. LeBron forced Wade and Bosh into being glorified versions of his Cavs squad and eventually those chickens were going to come home to roost and they did.
The Spurs almost lost to a geriatric Dirk Nowitzki in round and needed an Ibaka injury to clear the Thunder. 2001 Lakers or 96 Bulls they weren't.[/QUOTE]
Right, because the Thunder came so close to winning at San Antonio with Ibaka.. Oh wait, 30 point blowout.
Let's be realistc here, MJ on the Heat would be exactly the same.
Title in 2013 and Loss in 2014...
Re: What does LeBron need to do to be accepted as the GOAT?
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater]
Title in 2013 and Loss in 2014...[/QUOTE]
Titles in 2011, 2012, 2013, and more competitive 2007 / 2014.
Re: What does LeBron need to do to be accepted as the GOAT?
7 titles total.
Even then there would be debate.
Re: What does LeBron need to do to be accepted as the GOAT?
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater]Right, because the Thunder came so close to winning at San Antonio with Ibaka.. Oh wait, 30 point blowout.
Let's be realistc here, MJ on the Heat would be exactly the same.
[B]Title in 2013[/B] and Loss in 2014...[/QUOTE]
MJ wouldnt win in 2013 either
no way MJ plays 1-5 defense to lock up the Pacers in the ECF
Re: What does LeBron need to do to be accepted as the GOAT?
[QUOTE=Cousin Oliver]7 titles total.
Even then there would be debate.[/QUOTE]
10 more titles. He really phucked up his legacy.
Re: What does LeBron need to do to be accepted as the GOAT?
[QUOTE=Cousin Oliver]7 titles total.
Even then there would be debate.[/QUOTE]
Still won't erase 2011 and 2014.
Re: What does LeBron need to do to be accepted as the GOAT?
[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Titles in 2011, 2012, 2013, and more competitive 2007 / 2014.[/QUOTE]
Jordan wouldn't have played in 2014. He would have quit with a chance to 4-peat like he did 2 other times in his career.
Re: What does LeBron need to do to be accepted as the GOAT?
[QUOTE=Hey Yo]Jordan wouldn't have played in 2014. He would have quit with a chance to 4-peat like he did 2 other times in his career.[/QUOTE]
ouch
:oldlol:
Re: What does LeBron need to do to be accepted as the GOAT?
[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Titles in 2011, 2012, 2013, and more competitive 2007 / 2014.[/QUOTE]
Agreed
Definitely title in 2011 and 2013.. 2012 is only if its 1990-1992 MJ.
2007 they win a home game, and yeah, 2014 more competitive because he probably won't catch a cramp, hence win game 1...
Although you can't book on a 35/11 on 60% with huge shots in game 2... And after that the Spurs basically erupted and Heat role players gave in.
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[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater]Agreed
Definitely title in 2011 and 2013.. 2012 is only if its 1990-1992 MJ.[/quote]
You could include 1993, 1996, and 1997. Don't be shy.
[quote=ArbitrayWater]2007 they win a home game, and yeah, 2014 more competitive because he probably won't catch a cramp, hence win game 1...[/quote]
Or go unaggressive for entire halves at a time.
Re: What does LeBron need to do to be accepted as the GOAT?
[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH][B]You could include 1993, 1996, and 1997. Don't be shy. [/B]
Or go unaggressive for entire halves at a time.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
Hell no, post retirement MJ isn't winning shit in 2012.
2012 LeBron did everything better than 1996-1998 MJ and barely won, getting by with a top 5 game of all time.
Re: What does LeBron need to do to be accepted as the GOAT?
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater]:oldlol:
Hell no, post retirement MJ isn't winning shit in 2012.
2012 LeBron did everything better than 1996-1998 MJ and barely won, getting by with a top 5 game of all time.[/QUOTE]
No. Not even close.
96-98 MJ became a cerebral assassin (triple h) with his offensive repertoire. He didn't rely on athleticism and perfected the fade away. That was his move. LeBron doesn't even have a move.
Like posters above have said, MJ won't disappear for halves at a time. Or become passive aggressive. He's a killer. LeBron's a survivor, a great one at that though.
Not to mention it was the Thunder. A team that is not better than the five the Bulls beat in the 90s.
Re: What does LeBron need to do to be accepted as the GOAT?
[QUOTE=ballinhun8]No. Not even close.
96-98 MJ became a cerebral assassin (triple h) with his offensive repertoire. He didn't rely on athleticism and perfected the fade away. That was his move. LeBron doesn't even have a move.
Like posters above have said, MJ won't disappear for halves at a time. Or become passive aggressive. He's a killer. LeBron's a survivor, a great one at that though.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I mean the major categories.. 2012 LeBron was a better scorer, playmaker, rebounder, defender...
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That ship has sailed long ago.
You're not gonna be GOAT while losing multiple times in the finals, sorry.
Re: What does LeBron need to do to be accepted as the GOAT?
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater]Oh, I mean the major categories.. 2012 LeBron was a better [B]scorer[/B], playmaker, rebounder, [B]defender[/B]...[/QUOTE]
not even close
