According to this logic Steph curry is the GOAT. he didn't need superstar big men or guards..
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According to this logic Steph curry is the GOAT. he didn't need superstar big men or guards..
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damn
greater peak
LONGER peak
LeGoat you done did it again you bastard
[QUOTE=LAmbruh]damn
greater peak
LONGER peak
LeGoat you done did it again you bastard[/QUOTE]
Word. Backpicks has 3ball is a fuss because all time they ranked the top 3 as:
1. Kareem
2. LeBron
3. Jordan
And now the poor bastard is beside himself :lol
[QUOTE=tpols]According to this logic Steph curry is the GOAT. he didn't need superstar big men or guards..[/QUOTE]
Not enough rings as "the man" (0), so no
[QUOTE=72-10]Never in my life haev I seen Bird so high except for that guy MerkinMuffly, but I don't think you're him. I don't know how so much credit can be doled out to Bird given his paucity on defense, but I agree that he might be the second best player to play since he played.[/QUOTE]
You really sure Bird is 2? Have you considered his defensive letdowns due to his slow feet?
Here's an article from his rookie year talking about how his contemporary rival Dr. J was "running circles around him" on Philly's way to the next round of the 1980 playoffs: [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1980/04/26/sixers-create-3-1-margin-as-erving-stars-celtics-one-loss-away/64b74509-953d-4e67-bd7c-9962e52faa8c/[/url]
[QUOTE=Da_Realist]These guys don't know how to determine how good [I][U]teams[/U][/I] are. They just look at the roster and count the number of all stars and such. The 98 Jazz destroy that premise. They beat the 4 all-star Lakers, Olajuwon/Drexler/Barkley Rockets and the Robinson/Duncan Spurs that would eventually win 2 titles in the next 5 years. Most of these guys are probably 16 and don't know what they're talking about.[/QUOTE]
You say this yet you just applauded 3balls comment completely downplaying the 14 spurs. Anyone who watched that year beyond how many superstars they had and one poor series vs Dallas knows they were a juggernaut. Obvious double standard that come from bias.
by 3ball's logic no center or post player can be the best
I mean sure Kareem had to receive entry passes into the post, but he was an excellent passer out of the post, and guys like Russell, Walton, Pau are brilliant passing big men with some of the best outlet passes we've seen
[QUOTE=72-10]by 3ball's logic no center or post player can be the best[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=3ball]Not enough rings as "the man" (0), so no[/QUOTE]
So Iggy has 1 ring as the man? And let me guess, Iggy >>> Pippen, right?
[QUOTE=FKAri]So Iggy has 1 ring as the man? And let me guess, Iggy >>> Pippen, right?[/QUOTE]
Iggy is about equal with Pippen
But remember, he was a 2nd and 3rd [U]adjustment[/U] the warriors' were making - he was literally one of the last resorts
It shows tremendous weakness in the Warrior team that they would need to resort to a player or Iggy's low caliber to win a championship.. quite honestly, it's an indictment on curry, and proves his weakness..
but again, iggy is about equal with pippen
[QUOTE=3ball]. I've always thought that Pippen often played at a bench/role player caliber, and his weak stats frequently back that up.. But on the warriors, iggy was an actual bench player - it wouldn't surprise me to see Pippen in that role in today's game that doesn't favor his weak shooting[/QUOTE]
I guess the rest of the NBA didn't see it that way, considering they voted him onto their 50 greatest players list after just his 9th season
[QUOTE=3ball]I've always thought that Pippen often played at a bench/role player caliber, and his weak stats frequently back that up.. But on the warriors, iggy was an actual bench player - it wouldn't surprise me to see Pippen in that role in today's game that doesn't favor his weak shooting[/QUOTE]
I guess the rest of the NBA didn't see it that way, considering they voted him All-NBA 7 straight years, All-D 10 straight years and top 10 in MVP voting 6 straight years.
I guess Jordan carried Pippen during the first threepeat. I guess Pippen is at the tail end of all those votes, especially at the beginning of the 90s.
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]I guess the rest of the NBA didn't see it that way, considering they voted him onto their 50 greatest players list after just his 9th season[/QUOTE]
That's how great MJ was - he elevated a 18/6/5 player to ridiculous heights - no one else with Pippen's weak stats and many poor [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13896112&postcount=30]series[/url] is anywhere near that high..
infact, many guys would get crushed and perma-banned from all-time great lists for the kind of horrific series that Pippen often had
[QUOTE=3ball]That's how great MJ was - he elevated a 18/6/5 player to ridiculous heights - no one else with Pippen's weak stats and many poor [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13896112&postcount=30]series[/url] is anywhere near that high..
infact, many guys would get crushed and perma-banned from all-time great lists for the kind of horrific series that Pippen often had[/QUOTE]
And the 7 straight All-NBA, 10 straight All-D and 6 straight top 10 MVP finishes?