Re: Put Demar Derozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?
[QUOTE=Shooter;14313545]An upgrade over Pete Myers...
MJ stans insecurities on full display:facepalm[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't be a an upgrade over Pete myers either. Unfortunately unlike myers you have to play DeRozan and make him a focal point of the offense. So the question isn't is DeRozan better than myers. It's does a player who shoots 40%fg and dosn't pass or play defense help or hurt you? So if we agree that that hurts you than we should be able to agree derozan hurts you more than myers who dosn't play enough to hurt or help.
Re: Put Demar Derozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?
[QUOTE=aj1987;14313553]:facepalm[/QUOTE]
Cool so you think a player who shoots 15-20 shots a game at a 40% clip without threes and dosn't pass or play defense actually helps you? I just wanna see if you actually think this and will say it.
Re: Put Demar Derozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?
[QUOTE=HoopsNY;14313541]Nah. His numbers weren't crazy alongside MJ, so why would they be with DeRozan? In addition, the Knicks had great on the ball and help defense.[/QUOTE]
Because MJ demanded the ball more. He was much more agressive.
Re: Put Demar Derozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?
chicago might get past the knicks, but don't see them winning a championship. demar has more skills and better numbers than pete myers - but his game is hollow. a net negative and its been that way even BEFORE this thread. demar's impact wouldn't move the needle and in a tougher defensive era, he would be even worse.
Re: Put Demar Derozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?
[QUOTE=Real14;13919328]It would be the bulls and the rockets in the finals.[/QUOTE]
This but they'd probably lose in the finals
Re: Put Demar Derozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?
[QUOTE=Bronbron23;14313555]Wouldn't be a an upgrade over Pete myers either. Unfortunately unlike myers you have to play DeRozan and make him a focal point of the offense. So the question isn't is DeRozan better than myers. It's does a player who shoots 40%fg and dosn't pass or play defense help or hurt you? So if we agree that that hurts you than we should be able to agree derozan hurts you more than myers who dosn't play enough to hurt or help.[/QUOTE]
DeRozan never shot 40% from the field what are you talking about, he's a career 46% from the field and is one of the best mid range scorers of this generation
Bulls would improve if they added DeRozan but I don't believe it would be enough to win a championship but they'll at least reach the finals
Re: Put Demar Derozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?
[QUOTE=HoopsNY;14313541]Nah. His numbers weren't crazy alongside MJ, so why would they be with DeRozan? In addition, the Knicks had great on the ball and help defense.[/QUOTE]
What do you think Derozans numbers would look like in place of Pete Myers?
Re: Put Demar Derozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?
[QUOTE=Manny98;14313851]DeRozan never shot 40% from the field what are you talking about, he's a career 46% from the field and is one of the best mid range scorers of this generation
Bulls would improve if they added DeRozan but I don't believe it would be enough to win a championship but they'll at least reach the finals[/QUOTE]
Before that i said he was 42% fg for his career in the post season. That's in an easier scoring era though. Drop him in one of the hardest scoring era's and his efficiency drops at least a couple % probably more.
As far as them being better it depends. If he's playing a smaller role than yeah. If he's taking 15-20 shots a game and he's your best or second best scorer then definitely not. I don't understand how anyone thinks adding a player who can't defend or pass and shoots 17 shots a game at 40%fg is gonna make you better. It dosnt make sense.
Re: Put Demar Derozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?
[QUOTE=Bronbron23;14313555][B]Wouldn't be a an upgrade over Pete myers either[/B]. Unfortunately unlike myers you have to play DeRozan and make him a focal point of the offense. So the question isn't is DeRozan better than myers. It's does a player who shoots 40%fg and dosn't pass or play defense help or hurt you? So if we agree that that hurts you than we should be able to agree derozan hurts you more than myers who dosn't play enough to hurt or help.[/QUOTE]
Just for being an idiot and saying that I change my mind
Demar is an upgrade over Jordan.
1994 Bulls could swap MJ for Demar and win a chip. That's MJ's impact. HOWEVER, if you kept MJ and instead swapped Pippen for Demar they don't go anywhere.
Re: Put DeMar DeRozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?
The 1994 Bulls replaced the fraud GOAT MJ for Pete Myers. Pete Myers, the guy out of the league for 2 years playing in Italy. Pete Myers, the guy who averaged 7-3-2 during the playoff run. In 1995 Playoffs Pete Myers averaged 1-1-1. This is the guy who replaced MJ and the Bulls didn't skip a beat.
In fact they even had a deep playoff run and could have won a chip if they had a better replacement like DeMar Derozan.
Let that sink in.
The Bulls could have traded MJ for Demar Derozan and won a championship.
Re: Put Demar Derozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?
[QUOTE=Shooter;14313943]Just for being an idiot and saying that I change my mind
Demar is an upgrade over Jordan.
1994 Bulls could swap MJ for Demar and win a chip. That's MJ's impact. HOWEVER, if you kept MJ and instead swapped Pippen for Demar they don't go anywhere.[/QUOTE]
That's cool you can think whatever you want even though it has no basis. Mine does though.
Again though please tell me all about how someone who can't pass or defend and shoots 40% or worse without threes is gonna make the bulls or any team better. Still waiting on one of yall idiots to acknowledge this. You just keep avoiding the question.
Re: Put DeMar DeRozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?
[QUOTE=Shooter;14313945]The 1994 Bulls replaced the fraud GOAT MJ for Pete Myers. Pete Myers, the guy out of the league for 2 years playing in Italy. Pete Myers, the guy who averaged 7-3-2 during the playoff run. In 1995 Playoffs Pete Myers averaged 1-1-1. This is the guy who replaced MJ and the Bulls didn't skip a beat.
In fact they even had a deep playoff run and could have won a chip if they had a better replacement like DeMar Derozan.
Let that sink in.
The Bulls could have traded MJ for Demar Derozan and won a championship.[/QUOTE]
bud.. this is a facetious post right? i think you could replace jordan with another guard, say drexler, and chicago likely wins. but demar is the epitome of empty stats. checkout his real plus minus. over the last 4-5 seasons he's been a net negative. knowing this why do you think he is high impact?
Re: Put DeMar DeRozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?
[QUOTE=mehyaM24;14313962]bud.. this is a facetious post right? i think you could replace jordan with another guard, say drexler, and chicago likely wins. but demar is the epitome of empty stats. checkout his real plus minus. over the last 4-5 seasons he's been a net negative. knowing this why do you think he is high impact?[/QUOTE]
They almost won a chip with Pete Myers, who averaged 1-1-1 in the 1995 Playoffs. Any slight upgrade and they win the chip. Easily win with Klay or Kyle Lowry.
Re: Put Demar Derozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?
[QUOTE=Bronbron23;14313954]That's cool you can think whatever you want even though it has no basis. Mine does though.
Again though please tell me all about how someone who can't pass or defend and shoots 40% or worse without threes is gonna make the bulls or any team better. Still waiting on one of yall idiots to acknowledge this. You just keep avoiding the question.[/QUOTE]
The guy is clearly a retard, but out of this, only the defence thing is true. Demar can pass pretty well and the threes didn't matter that much back then. Defence is a huge problem though. Demar is plain bad for whatever reason (doesnt seem like its lack of trying) while MJ is one of the best defenders ever if not the best in that position. So thats enough even with the efficiency and passing.
Re: Put Demar Derozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?
[QUOTE=Shooter;14313943]Just for being an idiot and saying that I change my mind
Demar is an upgrade over Jordan.
1994 Bulls could swap MJ for Demar and win a chip. That's MJ's impact. HOWEVER, if you kept MJ and instead swapped Pippen for Demar they don't go anywhere.[/QUOTE]
Lol