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[QUOTE=Full Court;14562543]You seem incapable of any context outside of raw numbers.
They beat a bunch of garbage teams without Morant. If you think the Grizzlies would be anywhere near where they are now without Morant, you're beyond lost.
And Morant is not an empty stats guy. He leads his team to wins. If you're implying that Morant is empty stats, then I question that you actually understand basketball.[/QUOTE]
Wtf :lol
[QUOTE=PeroAntic;14562553]Morant is the difference between a playoff team and a championship contender. Grizzlies are defense, coaching and Morant. if they are so good, their best player deserves MVP by common criteria. Unless some idiot here thinks Morant somehow makes them worse:lol[/QUOTE]
Nobody is disputing Morant's talent.
But how can you give the "Most VALUABLE Player" award to someone who's team is 15-2 without him??
:oldlol:
Some guys inspire others. Lebron doesn't do that.
[QUOTE=PeroAntic;14562553]Morant is the difference between a playoff team and a championship contender. Grizzlies are defense, coaching and Morant. if they are so good, their best player deserves MVP by common criteria. Unless some idiot here thinks Morant somehow makes them worse:lol[/QUOTE]
Imagine giving the mvp award to a player who...
✅ scored almost 30 points in a double-digit loss against a team without their best player
✅ has less than five double/triple doubles in the last ten games he played
✅ is on a team who has an excellent record this season in games he's absent
✅ is also on the very same team that blew out a pre-season favorite (that has two champion stars) without him
But yes, keep acting like a desperate deluded casual like your other peers who you share this common interest with. Clown.
I know nobody watches them when Ja is sitting, but they have a solid team. Bane is really good. 15-2 without their best player is kinda shocking but refreshing. I am tired of people trashing teammates just to hype up whoever they like.
Grizz have a 73 win pace without morant
Not bad
[url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202102260MEM.html[/url]
I thought JA was going to be a star after he woke kawhi up on first of a back to back. They played again the very next game and kawhi cucked him with 30 points on 84% TS hahahahaha he'll do it again too in the playoffs
The overwhelming majority of you on both sides of this argument are too stupid to see that team success, team dynamics, team chemistry, whatever you want to call it... is an incomprehensibly complex subject matter of which we will probably never be able to mathematically prove a "solution."
I will say this though... anyone that thinks that Morant is the MVP of the league should consider suicide as a viable option.
He is very clearly not the best player in the league and it's very clear that his team's success is not tied to his presence at the hip.
There is absolutely no rational take and no rational line of thinking whatsoever that yields Ja Morant being MVP worthy this season.
Teams are always greater than the sum of their parts, the best players get too much credit and they also get too much blame.
Teams win championships... not individuals. It has always been this way and will always be this way.
It's just easy for you idiots to boil it down to 1 player because... you're idiots. And you don't even know it.
Bro the Grizzlies are so freakin good.
Beat the Nets without Ja while KD and Kyrie went off? They are serious contenders.
[QUOTE=Axe;14562573]Imagine giving the mvp award to a player who...
✅ scored almost 30 points in a double-digit loss against a team without their best player
✅ has less than five double/triple doubles in the last ten games he played
✅ is on a team who has an excellent record this season in games he's absent
✅ is also on the very same team that blew out a pre-season favorite (that has two champion stars) without him
But yes, keep acting like a desperate deluded casual like your other peers who you share this common interest with. Clown.[/QUOTE]
Great job at not addressing a single point in the post you quoted and instead making some random irrelevant list. As said already, dingus gonna dingus.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14562557]Nobody is disputing Morant's talent.
But how can you give the "Most VALUABLE Player" award to someone who's team is 15-2 without him??
:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Uhhhhhh, because context matters?
By your logic, if you're on a team with depth, it automatically disqualifies you from being MVP. That's just silly.
And you know the Grizzlies wouldn't be anywhere near second seed in the West without Morant.
[QUOTE=Shogon;14562781]The overwhelming majority of you on both sides of this argument are too stupid to see that team success, team dynamics, team chemistry, whatever you want to call it... is an incomprehensibly complex subject matter of which we will probably never be able to mathematically prove a "solution."
I will say this though... anyone that thinks that Morant is the MVP of the league should consider suicide as a viable option.
He is very clearly not the best player in the league and it's very clear that his team's success is not tied to his presence at the hip.
There is absolutely no rational take and no rational line of thinking whatsoever that yields Ja Morant being MVP worthy this season.
Teams are always greater than the sum of their parts, the best players get too much credit and they also get too much blame.
Teams win championships... not individuals. It has always been this way and will always be this way.[/QUOTE]
wow so intelligent. So who should win MVP then? No one? Or the best player in the league? Who is he btw?
And no its not 'very clear that his his team's success is not tied to his presence'. Actually anyone who thinks Memphis is just as good or better without Ja should consider suicide, since we are apparently advocating such consideration. Memphis is a playoff team without Morant, with him they are a contender, which could mean that hes the best player on the best team. Is there anyone close to his ability on that team? Whos their second best player? Adams? Bane? Jackson? Does anyone even know?
You'd have to be an absolute complete one hundred percent moron to discard Morant's MVP claim because the Grizzlies have beaten Durant and Kyrie.
[QUOTE=Shogon;14562781]The overwhelming majority of you on both sides of this argument are too stupid to see that team success, team dynamics, team chemistry, whatever you want to call it... is an incomprehensibly complex subject matter of which we will probably never be able to mathematically prove a "solution."
I will say this though... anyone that thinks that Morant is the MVP of the league should consider suicide as a viable option.
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Way to talk out of both sides of your mouth.
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14562554]Wtf :lol[/QUOTE]
She's a tard.