Chauncey Billiups and Rozier got arrested by the FBI on gambling charges.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15039238]What YALL did?

Who tf is YALL?[/QUOTE]


relax triggered snowflake

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15039246]relax triggered snowflake[/QUOTE]

Wahh the joos control everything and are responsible for all the problems in the world wahhh.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;15039156]I don’t think “legend” is worth taking serious in this world where people believe all manner of things they want. People have posted bullshit “evidence” online supporting theories they will never be able to prove forever.

I’ll stick to what I know.

Yes..gambling like a thousand other things can get out of hand and lead to violence. That doesn’t mean the concept automatically creates victims because the most extreme versions cause trouble. The list of things people have been killed over is too long to list.

That is an issue of people just being evil and general human weakness.

Obviously most forms of gambling are not inherently harmful to anyone and it definitely isn’t anyone’s right to tell anyone else they can or can’t. [B]It’s one of the wildest forms of government overreach to me.[/B]

If I have a 20 the idea that I can’t bet it on _____ but I can use it to buy cigarettes and a beer is hilarious.

Someone somewhere taking it too far shouldn’t have anything to do with me.

I can’t exactly go shoot up a school with a bet on the Nuggets but people who oppose the ability to bet often don’t oppose actual tools of long distance murder being readily available.

People are so selective about what rights they think the government should get to strip.

Therr are serious conversations to be had about a lot of things. Guns, drugs, alcohol, smoking….

Some feel a need to throw “I bet you 20 they come back and win!” into that mix because on a large scale it can be damaging and corrupt…but I don’t know much that can’t.

I just don’t know how it’s my business to tell you you can’t put 10 bucks on the Rams. I don’t know from where I’d get that authority over you and not feel like I were doing too much.

But I barely feel like I should be able to tell an adult he can’t do anything that doesn’t let him impose his will on me and others so I’m not the one to make that call I guess.[/QUOTE]

One of the major functions of modern government is enforcing contracts. Bets are contracts. If government power is going to be used to enforce contracts, then the government is going to exert regulatory power over that market. When a market exists outside of government regulation, it will eventually be regulated (in a fashion) by criminal organizations. The government is then incentivized to stamp out contracts that develop outside of their regulatory structures (in this case, illegal gambling), because if they don't, it empowers criminal orgs.

^that's how I see it. Just my perspective.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;15039156]I don’t think “legend” is worth taking serious in this world where people believe all manner of things they want. People have posted bullshit “evidence” online supporting theories they will never be able to prove forever.

I’ll stick to what I know.

Yes..gambling like a thousand other things can get out of hand and lead to violence. That doesn’t mean the concept automatically creates victims because the most extreme versions cause trouble. The list of things people have been killed over is too long to list.

That is an issue of people just being evil and general human weakness.

Obviously most forms of gambling are not inherently harmful to anyone and it definitely isn’t anyone’s right to tell anyone else they can or can’t. It’s one of the wildest forms of government overreach to me.

If I have a 20 the idea that I can’t bet it on _____ but I can use it to buy cigarettes and a beer is hilarious.

Someone somewhere taking it too far shouldn’t have anything to do with me.

I can’t exactly go shoot up a school with a bet on the Nuggets but people who oppose the ability to bet often don’t oppose actual tools of long distance murder being readily available.

People are so selective about what rights they think the government should get to strip.

Therr are serious conversations to be had about a lot of things. Guns, drugs, alcohol, smoking….

Some feel a need to throw “I bet you 20 they come back and win!” into that mix because on a large scale it can be damaging and corrupt…but I don’t know much that can’t.

I just don’t know how it’s my business to tell you you can’t put 10 bucks on the Rams. I don’t know from where I’d get that authority over you and not feel like I were doing too much.

But I barely feel like I should be able to tell an adult he can’t do anything that doesn’t let him impose his will on me and others so I’m not the one to make that call I guess.[/QUOTE]

Homie marijuana is still classified as a schedule 1 narcotic. A plant with medicinal qualities. Where it’s legal you can’t advertise like casinos and betting sites can. At the height of its prohibition people got 20 year plus sentences.

Raw unpasteurized milk is illegal across half of this country.

No one went to jail betting 20 with a homie. People did go to jail and still do over joints of weed with the homies.

Yes gambling should be legal, but when it isn’t it’s hardly the biggest government overreach.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;15039156]I don’t think “legend” is worth taking serious in this world where people believe all manner of things they want. People have posted bullshit “evidence” online supporting theories they will never be able to prove forever.

I’ll stick to what I know.

Yes..gambling like a thousand other things can get out of hand and lead to violence. That doesn’t mean the concept automatically creates victims because the most extreme versions cause trouble. The list of things people have been killed over is too long to list.

That is an issue of people just being evil and general human weakness.

Obviously most forms of gambling are not inherently harmful to anyone and it definitely isn’t anyone’s right to tell anyone else they can or can’t. It’s one of the wildest forms of government overreach to me.

If I have a 20 the idea that I can’t bet it on _____ but I can use it to buy cigarettes and a beer is hilarious.

Someone somewhere taking it too far shouldn’t have anything to do with me.

I can’t exactly go shoot up a school with a bet on the Nuggets but people who oppose the ability to bet often don’t oppose actual tools of long distance murder being readily available.

People are so selective about what rights they think the government should get to strip.

Therr are serious conversations to be had about a lot of things. Guns, drugs, alcohol, smoking….

Some feel a need to throw “I bet you 20 they come back and win!” into that mix because on a large scale it can be damaging and corrupt…but I don’t know much that can’t.

I just don’t know how it’s my business to tell you you can’t put 10 bucks on the Rams. I don’t know from where I’d get that authority over you and not feel like I were doing too much.

But I barely feel like I should be able to tell an adult he can’t do anything that doesn’t let him impose his will on me and others so I’m not the one to make that call I guess.[/QUOTE]

It's very unlikely that Jordan's dad was murdered due to a gambling debt given how it went down.

Gambling is very destructive. It being so easily accessible to anyone is why there should be regulations and limits to the amount a person can gamble. Gambling addiction has a higher suicide rate than alcohol for a reason. Just because you can control it doesn't mean it shouldn't be regulated.

Kg was just named. Sheesh

The reason I call telling someone they can’t make a bit more of an overreach than drugs is simple. Even if gambling could potentially lead to Harm, you can’t just walk up and buy your immediate death.

if you don’t regulate access to certain chemicals, drugs, and alcohol, and just put them on the shelf next to everything else as a simple commodity to be bought and sold by whoever has the funds, a kid could walk into a store buy a bottle of Everclear and drink himself to death before he gets home. If you can just walk into a store and grab a Needle already loaded up with heroin you have both adults and kids just deciding to try it and dropping dead all over the place.

Even drugs I feel should be accessible for a consenting adult… There are common sense reasons, not to just leave on the shelf and allow anyone to buy it if they want to.

You having the ability to gamble too much and ruin your life is not even close to the same thing.

People ruin their lives doing all manner of legal things That you would have a hard time legalizing because society doesn’t consider it the government’s business.

I guarantee more lives have been ruined and more people have been killed and infected with deadly diseases due to unprotected sex. Hell sex in general. Gambling murders will never catch the numbers put up by sex and love related violence. There’s a reason every time a woman comes up dead the police wanna know the last person they had sex with.

But you’ll never make it illegal to have sex outside a committed relationship or a marriage, regardless of the damage it does to families and the violence it causes because its none of the government’s ****ing business.

I put gambling more in that category than drug use. I’m considerably less concerned my kid is placing bets, or dating, than doing meth and I don’t feel I should have to explain it more than that.

Just because it could potentially spiral out of control doesn’t mean you have any right to tell me I can’t play cards for money or predict Luka goes over 31 points.

I don’t see how it’s anymore the government’s business than who sucks my dick. But I’ve had my life threatened over who I was ****ing.

Doesn’t mean the government has any say Among consenting adults.

In fact…bitch dependency is a greater threat to the average man than gambling…


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It utterly destroyed more than one friend of mine. I was stricken with it for a time in high school.

Some of the dumbest decisions in life are made because of sex and love.

3 of the 4 situations in my life involving some version of gunplay or credibly threatened gunplay were because of a woman.

Sex is a greater threat to the average family, life, and income than gambling and maybe alcohol. Drink driving makes that one hard to say though I bet the sex related assaults and shootings yearly are probably waaaay in the tens of thousands and I’m sure there are millions of decimated families.

But…having seen the tiny casket from a family member killed by a drunk driver I can’t say it’s worse for society.

Off the top of my head I’ve only witnessed 2 incidents of gambling related violence. My cousins father was a gambling addict and once blew almost his whole check on video poker and when he came in and gave his wife what was left to go get Friday night dinner she punched him in the side of the head in front of all of us…

And in one of my favorite and most quoted incidents from youth one of my best friends was flipping for quarters and a guy who lost wouldn’t give it to him. He grabbed him around both knees(dude was like 6’6” and ended up a center in college ball) and slammed him and got suspended.

His reason when asked?

The following legendary quote…


” I don’t care if it’s a quarter a dollar or hundred. If he got it and it’s mine then I need it”

I could run down a dozen sex-related incidents and I’m sure all of you could as well.

Im ready to issue final judgement….


Consensual sex between two adults…is more dangerous than gambling, destroys more families, costs more money once you factor in divorce and child support and is all around more justifiable for the government to restrict for the greater good.

We just don’t care. And we shouldn’t.

The only part that i don't get about all these is why the arrest was made during the opening days of the season. There was plenty of time before it and that a number of guys have been involved in here, players and coaches alike. I don't think i've seen this happen yet in the past few years on the same period.

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China regulated sex quite well actually to balance their population. Thats a hood thing youre talking about, obviously uncontrollable.

[QUOTE=tpols;15039345]China regulated sex quite well actually to balance their population. Thats a hood thing youre talking about, obviously uncontrollable.[/QUOTE]

Failed experiment

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15039346]Failed experiment[/QUOTE]

China doesn't have a baby momma baby daddy gun problem like USA because they regulate hard.

[QUOTE=tpols;15039345]China regulated sex quite well actually to balance their population. Thats a hood thing youre talking about, obviously uncontrollable.[/QUOTE]


It’s an everywhere thing. From Walmart, to the White House, to royal palaces. Sex takes apart careers, lives, and bank accounts all the time.

[QUOTE=tpols;15039349]China doesn't have a baby momma baby daddy gun problem like USA because they regulate hard.[/QUOTE]

They have other issues. Too many men. Not enough women. Little emperors and empresses. No guns meant toddlers getting slashed by maniacs with knives