80's vs 90's

[QUOTE=Sir Charles][B]Amen, but don`t say Jordan Dominanted. Say the JORDAN-PIPPEN DUO DOMINATED and With A Great All Around Team :rolleyes:

Then Again in 1996 The Bulls Won Again With An 80s Based Drafted Team!

Jordan: 1984 SUPERSTAR
Pippen: 1988 SUPERSTAR
Harper: 1986 (All Star Caliber for 5-6 over 20 ppg and A Top Defensive SG)
Rodman: 1986 All-Star. Defensive Player of The Year and Top Rebounder of the 90s


Sorry...but...

Kevin Jhonson is an 80s Player. Drafted in 1987 :)
Tim Hardaway is an 80s Player. Drafted in 1989 (at age 23, could have been drafter earlier maybe) :)

And Yes, David Robinson was drafted in 1989. He is 80s not 90s :no: and could have probaly entered the NBA even earlier in 1986 at age 21 but he decided to finish his Marine etc:)


On the other Hand. Yes 90s Was An Era of Marketing but 80s was More Passionete and Fan-Like by Far. Fans in the 80s Where Also More Blind and Rivalries Were Way Superior to the 90s [/B]:)

[B]1980s Rocks:pimp:[/B][/QUOTE]

what you typed is no different from ant other decade. look at now, this decade is dominated by players drafted in the 90s. shaq, duncan, bryant, the whole pistons team, garnett, pierce,allen, nash, iverson all are dominating the league now and thats not a knock on players like chris paul, james, wade and player drafted in the 00s.

[QUOTE=Sir Charles][B]Amen, but don`t say Jordan Dominanted. Say the JORDAN-PIPPEN DUO DOMINATED and With A Great All Around Team :rolleyes:

Then Again in 1996 The Bulls Won Again With An 80s Based Drafted Team!

Jordan: 1984 SUPERSTAR
Pippen: 1988 SUPERSTAR
Harper: 1986 (All Star Caliber for 5-6 over 20 ppg and A Top Defensive SG)
Rodman: 1986 All-Star. Defensive Player of The Year and Top Rebounder of the 90s


Sorry...but...

Kevin Jhonson is an 80s Player. Drafted in 1987 :)
Tim Hardaway is an 80s Player. Drafted in 1989 (at age 23, could have been drafter earlier maybe) :)

And Yes, David Robinson was drafted in 1989. He is 80s not 90s :no: and could have probaly entered the NBA even earlier in 1986 at age 21 but he decided to finish his Marine etc:)


On the other Hand. Yes 90s Was An Era of Marketing but 80s was More Passionete and Fan-Like by Far. Fans in the 80s Where Also More Blind and Rivalries Were Way Superior to the 90s [/B]:)

[B]1980s Rocks:pimp:[/B][/QUOTE]

So you're argument is for the 80's because the players that dominated the 90's were drafted in the 80's? That doesn't make sense. So stars like Magic, Bird, Dr J, Moses Malone, etc don't count for the 80's because they were drafted in the 70's?

And also...

[QUOTE=Sir Charles]Amen, but don`t say Jordan Dominanted. Say the JORDAN-PIPPEN DUO DOMINATED and With A Great All Around Team [/QUOTE]

Are you crazy?

[QUOTE=Sir Charles][B]Amen, but don`t say Jordan Dominanted. Say the JORDAN-PIPPEN DUO DOMINATED and With A Great All Around Team :rolleyes:

Then Again in 1996 The Bulls Won Again With An 80s Based Drafted Team!

Jordan: 1984 SUPERSTAR
Pippen: 1988 SUPERSTAR
Harper: 1986 (All Star Caliber for 5-6 over 20 ppg and A Top Defensive SG)
Rodman: 1986 All-Star. Defensive Player of The Year and Top Rebounder of the 90s


Sorry...but...

Kevin Jhonson is an 80s Player. Drafted in 1987 :)
Tim Hardaway is an 80s Player. Drafted in 1989 (at age 23, could have been drafter earlier maybe) :)

And Yes, David Robinson was drafted in 1989. He is 80s not 90s :no: and could have probaly entered the NBA even earlier in 1986 at age 21 but he decided to finish his Marine etc:)


On the other Hand. Yes 90s Was An Era of Marketing but 80s was More Passionete and Fan-Like by Far. Fans in the 80s Where Also More Blind and Rivalries Were Way Superior to the 90s [/B]:)

[B]1980s Rocks:pimp:[/B][/QUOTE]

and i have a question for you were do you put players like magic, bird, jabaar, malone, dr. j, and parrish as far as decade? because they were all drafted in the 70s

No matter how much you argue 97 Bulls... the 80's is superior to the 90's. Lets compare how many HOF players were in the NBA in the mid 80's to how many HOF players were in the NBA in the mid 90's.

[B]80's[/B]
Magic Johnson
Larry Bird
Michael Jordan
Charles Barkley
Karl Malone
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Dominique Wilkins
Joe Dumars
Isiah Thomas
Patrick Ewing
Hakeem Olajuwon
John Stockton
Moses Malone
Robert Parish
Julius Erving
Adrian Dantley
Kevin McHale
Clyde Drexler
Alex English
James Worthy

[B]90's[/B]
Michael Jordan
Scottie Pippen
Patrick Ewing
Reggie Miller
Charles Barkley
Clyde Drexler
Shaquille O'neal
David Robinson
Hakeem Olajuwon
Karl Malone
John Stockton
Joe Dumars
Jason Kidd (Future HOF)
Gary Payton (Future HOF)

Thats 20 HOF players for the 80's and only 14 for the 90's. Much more HOF players in the Mid 80's. AMAZING! No matter what you say the 80's will always be #1. Not only did they have better players but they also had better teams as well.

:bowdown: 80's:bowdown:

[QUOTE=97 bulls]what you typed is no different from ant other decade. look at now, this decade is dominated by players drafted in the 90s. shaq, duncan, bryant, the whole pistons team, garnett, pierce,allen, nash, iverson all are dominating the league now and thats not a knock on players like chris paul, james, wade and player drafted in the 00s.[/QUOTE]

Dwayne Wade has already won a championship and was a Finals MVP and Lebron took his team to a championship in '07. Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili were drafted this decade and a huge part of 3 championship teams.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers]No matter how much you argue 97 Bulls... the 80's is superior to the 90's. Lets compare how many HOF players were in the NBA in the mid 80's to how many HOF players were in the NBA in the mid 90's.

[B]80's[/B]
Magic Johnson
Larry Bird
Michael Jordan
Charles Barkley
Karl Malone
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Dominique Wilkins
Joe Dumars
Isiah Thomas
Patrick Ewing
Hakeem Olajuwon
John Stockton
Moses Malone
Robert Parish
Julius Erving
Adrian Dantley
Kevin McHale
Clyde Drexler
Alex English
James Worthy

[B]90's[/B]
Michael Jordan
Scottie Pippen
Patrick Ewing
Charles Barkley
Clyde Drexler
Shaquille O'neal
David Robinson
Hakeem Olajuwon
Karl Malone
John Stockton
Joe Dumars
Jason Kidd (Future HOF)
Gary Payton (Future HOF)

Thats 20 HOF players for the 80's and only 13 for the 90's. Much more HOF players in the Mid 80's. AMAZING! No matter what you say the 80's will always be #1. Not only did they have better players but they also had better teams as well.

:bowdown: 80's:bowdown:[/QUOTE]
that may be so but alot of players playing at a hof level were injured by the 2000 decade hardaway, and hill to name a few. then you did not mention iverson, mourning, mutombo, rodman, garnett, richmond, miller, and webber. then, some of the guys you mentioned in the 80s list made it more for their contributions in the 70s jabaar, erving, and malone. kareem was a good center in the 80-85 years and a decent center in the later 80s.

so from that view the 90s had more hofs than the 80s.

[QUOTE=97 bulls]that may be so but alot of players playing at a hof level were injured by the 2000 decade hardaway, and hill to name a few. then you did not mention iverson, mourning, mutombo, rodman, garnett, richmond, miller, and webber. then, some of the guys you mentioned in the 80s list made it more for their contributions in the 70s jabaar, erving, and malone. kareem was a good center in the 80-85 years and a decent center in the later 80s.

so from that view the 90s had more hofs than the 80s.[/QUOTE]

Richmond, Webber and Rodman are not HOFers. If they are HOFers then you have to put guys like Dennis Johnson and Sidney Moncrief in the HOF first.

And even if u add Miller, Mourning, Mutumbo, Iverson, & Garnett to the list there were still more HOFers in the 80's.

Edit: If Rodman is chosen to the HOF then he would have to be listed on the 80's list as well because he enterd the NBA in 1986. And I also forgot to Mention George Gervin for the 80's.

[QUOTE=97 bulls]that may be so but alot of players playing at a hof level were injured by the 2000 decade hardaway, and hill to name a few. then you did not mention iverson, mourning, mutombo, rodman, garnett, richmond, miller, and webber. [B]then, some of the guys you mentioned in the 80s list made it more for their contributions in the 70s jabaar, erving, and malone.[/B] kareem was a good center in the 80-85 years and a decent center in the later 80s.

so from that view the 90s had more hofs than the 80s.[/QUOTE]

Kareem was in his prime in the 70's but he was still the top 2 Center in the NBA throughout the 80's. Also Dr.J won his only NBA MVP award and NBA Championship in the 80's. And there is no doubt Moses Malone was in his prime in the 80's.

Jabbar 1980 NBA MVP
Erving 1981 NBA MVP
M. Malone 1982 & 1983 NBA MVP

[QUOTE=97 bulls]and i have a question for you were do you put players like magic, bird, jabaar, malone, dr. j, and parrish as far as decade? because they were all drafted in the 70s[/QUOTE]

[B]Magic and Bird are 1979-80 so the 1980 season is part of it in the Play-Offs they are 80s drafted pretty much too. They only came 5 years before the greatest draft ever, the 1984 draft: Hakeem, Jordan, Barkley, Stockton..[/B]

[B]Parish, Jabbar, Moses and the DR are 70s players but till part of the Golden 1980s because they where part of Championship Contending Teams in the 80s and in the case od Parish and Kareem 1987 to 1989.

The Doctor kept pulling in 20 ppg, 5 rpg and 5 aspg till about 1985. Even though Past His Prime he still kept rocking! :rockon:

Parish kept pulling in 15-21 ppg at 55% FG% or mor and 10 rpg till 1989. :rockon:

Moses was the leagues leading rebounder in the early 80s to go along an average of 31 to 20 ppg till 1989 :rockon:

Kareem kept scoring over 20 ppg at 53 to 59.9% FG% til 1986. :rockon:

Yes they where not in their Prime. Except for maybe Moses and Parish in the early 80s but they kept Schooling Big Time till 1989 :confusedshrug:

Shaq was an 90s player but he kept ruling and dominating the early 2000s. So that also makes him both a 90s Player and a 2000s Dominating Star Player:) [/B]

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers]It was actually the mid 90's where the NBA started to sink. MJ wasn't in the NBA in 93-94 & 94-95 then when MJ came back in 95-96 the NBA added 2 new teams to the NBA which lowerd competition a bit.[/QUOTE]

The NBA started sucking in the 1994 season and as just now starting to recover. '94-'99 was horrible, horrible basketball. The greatness of MJ overshadowed just how overrated and bad the NBA was then.

'80-'93 was the golden era for the NBA. Hopefully someday we can get back to those types of days.

[QUOTE=97 bulls]that may be so but alot of players playing at a hof level were injured by the 2000 decade hardaway, and hill to name a few. then you did not mention iverson, mourning, mutombo, rodman, garnett, richmond, miller, and webber. then, some of the guys you mentioned in the 80s list made it more for their contributions in the 70s jabaar, erving, and malone. kareem was a good center in the 80-85 years and a decent center in the later 80s.

so from that view the 90s had more hofs than the 80s.[/QUOTE]

Do you count Shaq and Duncan and as 90s or 00s? Dirk and KG, 90s or 00s? Iverson & Kobe, 90s or 00s?

Is it when they were drafted or when they dominated? I just named 6 first ballot HOFers but the line is very gray. Shaq dominated the 90s and the 00s, where does he go?

[QUOTE=nycelt84]Dwayne Wade has already won a championship and was a Finals MVP and Lebron took his team to a championship in '07. Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili were drafted this decade and a huge part of 3 championship teams.[/QUOTE]

this is true but like i said there is an exception to every rule. for the most part this decade is dominated by players drafted in the 90s. and i also said that the more things change the more they stay the same. sam cassel was a rookie and a huge part of the rockets back to back championships. toni kukoc was in his third year and was an integral part of the bulls championship teams
shaq and penny made it to the finals in their 2nd and third years.

in the 80s olajuwan made it to the chip in only his third season i believe

[QUOTE=97 bulls]this is true but like i said there is an exception to every rule. for the most part this decade is dominated by players drafted in the 90s. and i also said that the more things change the more they stay the same. sam cassel was a rookie and a huge part of the rockets back to back championships. toni kukoc was in his third year and was an integral part of the bulls championship teams
shaq and penny made it to the finals in their 2nd and third years.

[B]in the 80s olajuwan made it to the chip in only his third season i believe[/B][/QUOTE]

Olajuwan made it to the championship in his 2nd season.

[QUOTE=miles berg]The NBA started sucking in the 1994 season and as just now starting to recover. '94-'99 was horrible, horrible basketball. The greatness of MJ overshadowed just how overrated and bad the NBA was then.

'80-'93 was the golden era for the NBA. Hopefully someday we can get back to those types of days.[/QUOTE]

:rockon:

:banghead: [QUOTE=miles berg]The NBA started sucking in the 1994 season and as just now starting to recover. '94-'99 was horrible, horrible basketball. The greatness of MJ overshadowed just how overrated and bad the NBA was then.

'80-'93 was the golden era for the NBA. Hopefully someday we can get back to those types of days.[/QUOTE]

[B]I agree with you that Jordan had quite easy in the early 90s but the 90s still where greater than the 2000s.

Even the late 90s!:rockon: .

In the late 90s you still had:

Iverson
Shaq
Webber
Kemp
Kidd
G.Hill
Vin Baker (Could have been Greater)
Kevin Jhonson
Jordan
Pippen
Rodman
Hakeem
Malone
Stockton
Robinson
Drexler
Hardaway
Miller
Ewing

Along many Great 1980s Roll Players like: Chambers, Hornacek, Shremp, Oakley, Perkins, Marlie, Harper, Paxon, Thrope, Kenny Smith, Rick Smiths etc..

Plus upcoming Stars like:

Duncan
Garnett
Bryant
Pierce

etc...


Even the Late 90s was better than the **** I see today:( but ofcourse nothign will ever surpass

The Legendary 1980s and Early 90s (Still the Dominationg of the 1980s Drafted Players till 1999!).

Nothing Ever!:confusedshrug: [/B]