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[QUOTE=TheMan]Lol at Kyle Korver going ahead of much better overall players that still hadn't/haven't been picked like Glen Rice, Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin, Bernard King, Ron Harper, Tim Hardaway, Joe Dumars...:oldlol:
If y'all going by years as some of you have put the version of said player...no 2010 Derrick Rose? Dude was an absolute beast pre injury.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I love Manny he my boy but that was a p funny pick :oldlol:
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]I don't know why the critique about being soft in the middle when the defensive system is the best in this while draft.
Jordan, Stockton, and Pippen on the perimeter locking down, and if someone does break through you have the best face up shot blocker of all time. And if you want to add to that defensive depth Zo played PF with Deke at Georgetown.
My team is definitely the toughest to score against hands down.[/QUOTE]
Your team is the easiest to defend against, you literally have no shooting outside of Rice :lol
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]I don't know why the critique about being soft in the middle when the defensive system is the best in this while draft.
Jordan, Stockton, and Pippen on the perimeter locking down, and if someone does break through you have the best face up shot blocker of all time. And if you want to add to that defensive depth Zo played PF with Deke at Georgetown.
My team is definitely the toughest to score against hands down.[/QUOTE]
You have guys who are in the conversation as the greatest defenders all time at their position at PG, SG and C, with solid D elsewhere also. I agree you've got arguably the best defense here.
But you might have the weakest team offensively.
So what do we do now?
Have a vote or poll to see who wins?
I'd say Southbeach has the best overall team imo
Are there some metrics that we can rank teams by to try and assess. Maybe a 5 star system.
Metrics could be things like interior D, perimeter D, shooting, inside scoring, rebounding, defenisve depth, scoring depth, intangibles, star power (or X factor)
Probably wouldnt need any more. This is probably already too many.
Thoughts?
I think we should just make a poll. I think people have lost interest now that the draft is over, I would hate if each of us voted matchup by matchup, you know some people will just flake.
Please could SouBeachTalents and iamgine post their lineups.
I will then post our lineups in one post, everyone will then rank the teams 1st - 9th, and vote the winner for categories (Best Inside scoring, Best Outside scoring, Best Inside defense, Best Perimeter defense, Best Rebounding).
[B]Starting:[/B]
G Payton
G Curry
F Kawhi
F/C AD
C Walton
[B]Reserve:[/B]
G Oladipo
F Mchale
C Sabonis
F/G Pierce
G/F J.Butler
PG- 1985 Isiah Thomas | 2006 Chauncey Billups
SG- 1995 Reggie Miller | 1989 Dale Ellis
SF- 2004 Ron Artest | 2019 Paul George
PF- 2011 Dirk Nowitzki | 2013 Chris Bosh
C- 1994 Hakeem Olajuwon | 2004 Ben Wallace
[QUOTE=Manny98]Can any of those players shoot like Korver?[/QUOTE]
There is more to an elite player than just pure shooting skills, noob :oldlol:
KK aside from pure shooting is average at best at other facets of the game...I would pick, say Mitch Richmond a dozen times over KK, and most hoops fans who aren't low IQs like you, would too.
This is after all the [b]All Time NBA Draft[/b], dummy :lol
KK, no matter how good of a 3pt specialist he was, shouldn't be anywhere in this list, ROFL...wait, my turn, lemme pick Steve Kerr! Lol
[QUOTE=Manny98]Your team is the easiest to defend against, you literally have no shooting outside of Rice :lol[/QUOTE]
The offense I created is about systems. The triangle only required 1 shooter on the floor. Stockton is more than capable. Also having Stockton involved in the most unstoppable pick and roll of all time, he can run that with Webber. You also have Jordan. I don't see any problem scoring. The offense is designed perfectly for Jordan.
Like I said, this draft emphasized defense and shooting so much that people didn't think about chemistry or efficiency.
Think of all you teams that went heavy shooting, how you gonna shoot when Pippen, Stockton, and Jordan are locking down the perimeter? Meanwhile the floor chemistry will out the business on anyone.
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]The offense I created is about systems. The triangle only required 1 shooter on the floor. Stockton is more than capable. Also having Stockton involved in the most unstoppable pick and roll of all time, he can run that with Webber. You also have Jordan. I don't see any problem scoring. The offense is designed perfectly for Jordan.
Like I said, this draft emphasized defense and shooting so much that people didn't think about chemistry or efficiency.
Think of all you teams that went heavy shooting, how you gonna shoot when Pippen, Stockton, and Jordan are locking down the perimeter? Meanwhile the floor chemistry will out the business on anyone.[/QUOTE]
Bruh, he picked Kyle Korver with his 5th pick :roll:
He forgot that KK would also try to defend elite players in this scenario.
Don't waste your time with him :facepalm
[QUOTE=TheMan]Bruh, he picked Kyle Korver with his 5th pick :roll:
He forgot that KK would also try to defend elite players in this scenario.
Don't waste your time with him :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Lol, that was a head scratcher. It reminded me of when Barkley took Iverson 1st round in an all time NBA draft
I wish I was active when this draft started, I remember having fun with these and recognise some of the names. My opinion:
Best rebounding team: AussieSteve or Gotterdammerung
Best perimeter D: DaHeezy
Best interior D: Manny98
Best inside scoring: Achilleas
Best outside scoring: Manny98 or iamgine
But I don't think Manny98 has the best team
Best pick - Clyde Drexler in R7 - usually in the top 4-7 SGs all time
Worst pick - Kyle Korver in R5 - other great shooters on board at time
Why don't you guys use WhatIf Sports? Is it still running?
Achilleas
PG : ARENAS,PISTOL MARAVICH,IGGY
SG : KLAY,ARENAS,IGGY,PISTOL
SG : DOCTOR,BARRY,BIRD,IGGY,KLAY
PF : BIRD,GASOL,BARRY,DOCTOR,DUNCAN
C : DUNCAN,YAO,GASOL
Manny 98
PG - Nash | Blaylock
SG - Moncrief | Korver
SF - Marion | Hill
PF - KD | Lewis
C - Robinson | Dwight
Gottadammerung
Robertson | Frazier
Petrovic | Thompson
Bryant | Houston
McAdoo | Horry
Chamberlain | Thurmond
1987_Lakers
G - '03 Kidd | '17 Irving
G - '03 McGrady | '08 Ginobili
F - '13 LeBron | '05 Bowen
F - '04 Garnett | '77 B. Jones
C - '90 Ewing | '82 Parish
Hakeem Olajuwon
PG Magic JOHNSON, Dennis JOHNSON
SG Ray ALLEN, Clyde DREXLER
SF John HAVLICEK, James WORTHY
PF Karl MALONE, Dennis RODMAN
C Bill RUSSELL, Willis REED
NBA GOAT
68 West/19 Lillard
09 Wade/01 Carter
04 Peja/04 Kirilenko
16 Green/19 Giannis
00 Shaq/18 Horford
DaHeezy
PG- John Stockton, Allen Iverson
SG- Michael Jordan, Allen Iverson, Glen Rice
SF- Scottie Pippen, Dominique Wilkins, Glen Rice
PF- Chris Webber, Rasheed Wallace
C- Dikembe Mutombo, Alonzo Mourning
AussieSteve
PG- 14 Chris Paul, 93 Mark Price
SG- 18 James Harden, 87 Michael Cooper
SF- 63 Elgin Baylor, 93 Dan Majerle
PF- 88 Charles Barkley, 75 Elvin Hayes
C- 77 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, 83 Moses
Malone
iamgine
G Payton
G Curry
F Kawhi
F/C AD
C Walton
Reserve:
G Oladipo
G/F Butler
F/G Pierce
F Mchale
C Sabonis
SouBeachTalents
PG- 1985 Isiah Thomas | 2006 Chauncey Billups
SG- 1995 Reggie Miller | 1989 Dale Ellis
SF- 2004 Ron Artest | 2019 Paul George
PF- 2011 Dirk Nowitzki | 2013 Chris Bosh
C- 1994 Hakeem Olajuwon | 2004 Ben Wallace
[B]Best Team
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
5th
6th
7th
8th
9th
Best Inside scoring -
Best Outside scoring -
Best Inside defense -
Best Perimeter defense -
Best Rebounding -[/B]
[QUOTE=KobesFinger]I wish I was active when this draft started, I remember having fun with these and recognise some of the names. My opinion:
[B]Best rebounding team: AussieSteve or Gotterdammerung[/B]
Best perimeter D: DaHeezy
Best interior D: Manny98
[B]Best inside scoring: Achilleas[/B]
Best outside scoring: Manny98 or iamgine
But I don't think Manny98 has the best team
Best pick - Clyde Drexler in R7 - usually in the top 4-7 SGs all time
Worst pick - Kyle Korver in R5 - other great shooters on board at time
Why don't you guys use WhatIf Sports? Is it still running?[/QUOTE]
I don't see how I cannot have the best rebounding and best inside scoring.
Barkley, Kareem, Moses and Hayes all won rebounding titles either the year of my selection or a year before / after. And Baylor was probably the best rebounder at SF of all time.
In terms of inside scoring, the above four guys were all bigs who perennially scored 25+ppg. Add the fact that Moses, Barkley and Hayes were all offensive rebounding champs also, and my inside scoring is off the charts. Certainly better that Duncan, Yao, Gasol that Achilleas has up front.
[QUOTE=KobesFinger]I wish I was active when this draft started, I remember having fun with these and recognise some of the names. My opinion:
Best rebounding team: AussieSteve or Gotterdammerung
Best perimeter D: DaHeezy
Best interior D: Manny98
Best inside scoring: Achilleas
Best outside scoring: Manny98 or iamgine
But I don't think Manny98 has the best team
Best pick - Clyde Drexler in R7 - usually in the top 4-7 SGs all time
Worst pick - Kyle Korver in R5 - other great shooters on board at time
Why don't you guys use WhatIf Sports? Is it still running?[/QUOTE]
Where do you rank my team out of curiosity?
[QUOTE=TheMan]There is more to an elite player than just pure shooting skills, noob :oldlol:
KK aside from pure shooting is average at best at other facets of the game...I would pick, say Mitch Richmond a dozen times over KK, and most hoops fans who aren't low IQs like you, would too.
This is after all the [b]All Time NBA Draft[/b], dummy :lol
KK, no matter how good of a 3pt specialist he was, shouldn't be anywhere in this list, ROFL...wait, my turn, lemme pick Steve Kerr! Lol[/QUOTE]
Korver moves without the ball better than pretty much anyone ever
Why would i want Mitch Ritchmond whos a inferior shooter and can't move without the ball.
It's about putting together the best possible team in terms of how the pieces fit on the basketball court
Why do you think guys picked role players like Bruce Bowen over former MVPs?
[QUOTE=TheMan]Bruh, he picked Kyle Korver with his 5th pick :roll:
He forgot that KK would also try to defend elite players in this scenario.
Don't waste your time with him :facepalm[/QUOTE]
I have Sidney Moncrief and Mookie Baylock + the best interior D of this draft
I'm good defensively
[QUOTE=Hakeem Olajuwon]
Best Inside scoring -
Best Outside scoring -
Best Inside defense -
Best Perimeter defense -
Best Rebounding -[/B][/QUOTE]
why do we need to post best about that
for example
1 can have be the best in one of these and in all others be the worst
and onther can be second in all these
score the teamsin rankings can be done with pms ;
tommorow i will see all teams and see who will win 1vs 1 with each other,and detrermine the ranks from the wins
1st SouBeach
2nd Iamgine
3rd 1987 Lakers
4th NBAGOAT
5th AussieSteve
6th Daheezy
7th Achilles
8th Gottedammerung
9th Hakeem
Best Inside scoring - AussieSteve
Best Outside scoring - Southbeach
Best Inside defense - Gottedammerung
Best Perimeter defense - Iamgine
Best Rebounding -Hakeem
My rankings are based on playing with todays rules
We’ll be doing a current draft next based on today’s rules and performances.
Like I said earlier.
My team will destroy every damn fool's motley crew here
:kobe:
[QUOTE=Hakeem Olajuwon]We
Start a new thread and ask impartial judges to make a ranking
I’d be down to participate in or judge the next one
Though someone brought up whatifsports. If that’s still running then running sims would probably be the best way to pick a winner
[QUOTE=KobesFinger]What's that, current players only?[/QUOTE]
Yes, based on the 2018-19 regular season/playoffs.
Balance it out, 50% on what if 50% on impartial votes. If we can
Whatif is skued. Had I known we'd use that I would have picked differently. But hey, works for me. It's slanted towards Jordan