Greatest 40 years old in NBA history
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Greatest 40 years old in NBA history
40 year old Jordan was a better scorer. 40 year old Jordan played much better defense. 40 year old Jordan wasn't a net negative. LeShrivel is a net negative.
Cry it out, Louise.
Lebron had a triple double against new york
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[B]1)[/B] [B]40-year Jordan drops 39 in last game at MSG[/B]
[url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=66ZVa-VFX2M&pp=ygUNTWogMzkga25pY2tzIA%3D%3D[/url]
[B]39-year MJ's final game-winner in MSG over Sprewell:[/B]
[url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9QTp_N8q0Sk&pp=ygUYV2l6YXJkcyBKb3JkYW4gMzcga25pY2tz[/url]
[B]2)[/B] If Lebron's best friend Mims was truly seeking weight loss treatment, he would've gone to a regular doctor for testosterone and HCG instead of the biggest provider of PED's to athletes that ever existed.. The only reason the premium black market was accessed was because Lebron can't go to a regular doctor for those items.. The guy that the DEA identified as a drug dealer is in business with Lebron's wife - this is pertinent because it shows that they're all TIGHT... [B][u]TLDR:[/u][/B] Lebron is the Lance Armstrong of the NBA.
[B]3)[/B] The NBA rigged the Lakers with 3 times the free-throw differential and 5 times the transaction activity as any other team, which achieved the best roster in the league by far - the Lakers have had DOZENS of starters for other teams riding their bench over the last 6 years as the NBA finely-tuned the Lakers roster into what we see today (a perfectly manufactured roster that ONLY Lebron's horrible brand and chemistry could lose with).
[B]4)[/B] The only reason Austin Reaves isn't a 25 ppg all-star and the Lakers winning the last 3 titles is because of Lebron-ball, which has always reduced good players and underachieved favored rosters... Lebron has a losing record with every type of good team, such as 3-4 with preseason favorites, 4-7 with all-star teammates, 4-6 with Finals teams, 4-5 with 1 or 2 seeds, and 3 losses with homecourt... He's simply the biggest loser in NBA history.
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[QUOTE=3ba11;14974303].
[B]1)[/B] [B]40-year Jordan drops 39 in last game at MSG[/B]
[url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=66ZVa-VFX2M&pp=ygUNTWogMzkga25pY2tzIA%3D%3D[/url]
[B]39-year MJ's final game-winner in MSG over Sprewell:[/B]
[url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9QTp_N8q0Sk&pp=ygUYV2l6YXJkcyBKb3JkYW4gMzcga25pY2tz[/url]
[B]2)[/B] If Lebron's best friend Mims was truly seeking weight loss treatment, he would've gone to a regular doctor for testosterone and HCG instead of the biggest provider of PED's to athletes that ever existed.. The only reason the premium black market was accessed was because Lebron can't go to a regular doctor for those items.. The guy that the DEA identified as a drug dealer is in business with Lebron's wife - this is pertinent because it shows that they're all TIGHT... [B][u]TLDR:[/u][/B] Lebron is the Lance Armstrong of the NBA.
[B]3)[/B] The NBA rigged the Lakers with 3 times the free-throw differential and 5 times the transaction activity as any other team, which achieved the best roster in the league by far - the Lakers have had DOZENS of starters for other teams riding their bench over the last 6 years as the NBA finely-tuned the Lakers roster into what we see today (a perfectly manufactured roster that ONLY Lebron's horrible brand and chemistry could lose with).
[B]4)[/B] The only reason Austin Reaves isn't a 25 ppg all-star and the Lakers winning the last 3 titles is because of Lebron-ball, which has always reduced good players and underachieved favored rosters... Lebron has a losing record with every type of good team, such as 3-4 with preseason favorites, 4-7 with all-star teammates, 4-6 with Finals teams, 4-5 with 1 or 2 seeds, and 3 losses with homecourt... He's simply the biggest loser in NBA history.
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Jordan turned 29 ppg Jerry Stackhouse into a spot up shooter
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14974308]Jordan turned 29 ppg Jerry Stackhouse into a spot up shooter[/QUOTE]
02' Stackhouse with Detroit..... 21.4 ppg
03' Stackhouse with MJ........... 21.5 ppg
MJ always made teammates better because his skillset doesn't turn teammates into spot-up shooter like Lebron's does
[QUOTE=3ba11;14974318]02' Stackhouse with Detroit..... 21.4 ppg
03' Stackhouse with MJ........... 21.5 ppg
MJ always made teammates better because his skillset doesn't turn teammates into spot-up shooter like Lebron's does[/QUOTE]
And they missed the playoffs
[QUOTE=Full Court;14973402]40 year old Jordan was a better scorer. [B]40 year old Jordan played much better defense. 40 year old Jordan wasn't a net negative[/B]. LeShrivel is a net negative.
Cry it out, Louise.[/QUOTE]
Yes he was.
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14974268]Lebron had a triple double against new york[/QUOTE]
Westbrook has the most triple doubles of all time. Westbrook is the GOAT.
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14974342]And they missed the playoffs[/QUOTE]
Lebron is the only player in history to lead a super team to the lottery. Think about it. He led a [B][SIZE=4]SUPER TEAM [/SIZE][/B]to the [SIZE=4][B]LOTTERY[/B][/SIZE].
[video=youtube_share;Ccjg2_4oAo4]https://youtu.be/Ccjg2_4oAo4?si=KzsT7kZb2EfA7jwT[/video] lebron scoring 40 points vs blazers while Jordan was defeated by John Rogers .
Inflated numbers in an era where teams play no defense.
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[B]Goat standard at 40 years old[/B] - 43 of 89 points against the #1 defense and East champs in the toughest defensive format ever, where competitive-minded players were eager to finally have a chance against the old lion
[B]Fake standard at 40 years old[/B] - 40 of 120 points and 11 turnovers against a bottom-dweller in a hands-off, wide-open format that allows 20 more ppg, while the league's design around a single colluder disincentives opponents from winning or going hard (since it won't get covered and they won't be praised for it)
He's easily better. He's also on pace to lead the Lakers to a top 4 seed, while Jordan was bricking the Wizards into a losing record, as he did every season of his career without Pippen.
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14980251]He's easily better. He's also on pace to lead the Lakers to a top 4 seed, while Jordan was bricking the Wizards into a losing record, as he did every season of his career without Pippen.[/QUOTE]
AD led the Lakers in scoring and defense to get the 4 seed, so you guys will say any old lie to support your delusion... that's the definition of crazy..
jordan and everyone in the league had to win with "normal" rosters of 1 franchise player, while Lebron couldn't do anything with normal rosters, so he got super-teams of [I]multiple[/I] franchise players that matched is stats and carried him.
[QUOTE=3ba11;14980252]AD led the Lakers in scoring and defense to get the 4 seed, so you guys will say any old lie to support your delusion... that's the definition of crazy[/QUOTE]
AD hasn't played for the Lakers since January 28th, since then, the Lakers have gone 7-2, with LeBron averaging 29/8/9 on 65%TS. No AD, no Luka, no problem for LeBron. Meanwhile, no Pip, no winning record for Jordan.
LeBron's just a better player, and it's painfully obvious at this point. Once you accept this, you can maybe finally find peace.
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14980254]AD hasn't played for the Lakers since January 28th, since then, the Lakers have gone 7-2, with LeBron averaging 29/8/9 on 65%TS. No AD, no Luka, no problem for LeBron. Meanwhile, no Pip, no winning record for Jordan.
LeBron's just a better player, and it's painfully obvious at this point. Once you accept this, you can maybe finally find peace.[/QUOTE]
The Lakers are the 5 seed now and they were the 5 seed after AD's last game, so Lebron was carried to the 5 seed.... A 7-2 stretch since then with Reaves playing better than Bird and Luka helping in 1 of the games doesn't make Lebron the goat.. It makes him carried as always.
So again, more delusion.. You'll believe anything to make Lebron the goat, even a 7-2 stretch where he was carried compared to any team that MJ ever had.
Lebron can't win with [I]normal rosters[/I] of 1 franchise player that Jordan and everyone else is forced to win with, and he still mostly loses with the super-teams of multiple franchise players..
Meanwhile, his stats have never been anywhere near Jordan - you keep citing PPG that is less than 30 as if that compares to Jordan, lol.., Lebron can't score compared to Jordan and actually won multiple titles and conferences with just 25 ppg because he had so much help.
[QUOTE=3ba11;14980261]The Lakers are the 5 seed now and they were the 5 seed after AD's last game, so Lebron was carried to the 5 seed.... A 7-2 stretch since then with Reaves playing better than Bird and Luka helping in 1 of the games doesn't make Lebron the goat.. It makes him carried as always.
So again, more delusion.. You'll believe anything to make Lebron the goat, even a 7-2 stretch where he was carried compared to any team that MJ ever had.
Lebron can't win with [I]normal rosters[/I] of 1 franchise player that Jordan and everyone else is forced to win with, and he still mostly loses with the super-teams of multiple franchise players..
Meanwhile, his stats have never been anywhere near Jordan - you keep citing PPG that is less than 30 as if that compares to Jordan, lol.., Lebron can't score compared to Jordan and actually won multiple titles and conferences with just 25 ppg because he had so much help.[/QUOTE]
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Oh, and
[U]MVP and title[/U]
Jordan............ 4
Russell............ 4
Bird................ 2
Lebron............ 2
Magic.............. 1
Kareem........... 1
Duncan........... 1
Shaq............... 1
Hakeem........... 1
Moses...............1
half of Lebron's MVP's lacked titles and all lacked scoring title, so Lebron failed to reach the top caliber of anything, such as MVP quality, 3-peat, dynasty, or 70 wins.
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[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14980262]1-9[/QUOTE]
Lebron 8 All stars, Jordan 1 All star
You're kiddng yourself man. Posters are roasting you. 3ba11 is embarassing your ass.
Lebron and the Lakers are the 3rd seed in the West. Wizards missed the playoffs in the leastern conference.
This thread aged like wine :applause:
4 years later LeBron is still top 5-10 in the league and easily better than Wizards MJ who couldn't even get his team to the playoffs in the East
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This thread aged like wine :applause:
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Lebron stat-pads in an easy-scoring league, while also being 3rd option on his own team and a massive negative:
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The Lakers must literally win in spite of Lebron's massive negative impact... Obviously, Luka would have a 70-win pace if he was paired with a true top 5 player
[QUOTE=3ba11;14990628]Lebron stat-pads in an easy-scoring league, while also being 3rd option on his own team and a massive negative:
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The Lakers must literally win in spite of Lebron's massive negative impact... Obviously, Luka would have a 70-win pace if he was paired with a true top 5 player[/QUOTE]
Shaq is GOAT confirmed for winning with net negative Kobe in 2002 :applause:
Old Lebron easily clears old MJ. Wizards MJ was a joke, a literal side circus in the NBA. There was less embarrassment with MJ playing baseball.
[QUOTE=3ba11;14990628]Lebron stat-pads in an easy-scoring league, while also being 3rd option on his own team and a massive negative:
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The Lakers must literally win in spite of Lebron's massive negative impact... Obviously, Luka would have a 70-win pace if he was paired with a true top 5 player[/QUOTE]
MJ was out the league at age 40 whilst LeBron is competing for championships and putting up superstar numbers
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