Who's the best player Lebron has beaten in the playoffs
Looking back, it's amazing how little resistance Lebron has faced in the middle of his prime, the best players hes beaten in a series being
24 year old Dwight
Celtics KG
23 year old Durant
35 year old Duncan
Other than Dwight, all of those guys were either past or yet to enter their primes. You can argue that the 2nd and even 3rd options on Lebron's Heat teams would have been the first option on any of those opposition teams.
It's a reflection of the era we are in with stacked superteams and comically imbalanced conferences. Jordan had to go through the 80s Celtics, bad boy Pistons, prime Ewing, 24 year old Shaq, and that was just in his CONFERENCE. Duncan and Kobe had to face each other in their primes, yet the greatest challenge the best player of this era has faced is Dwight Howard.
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Carried his team to two championships.
Kobe was never the main reason for winning any of his championships.
2000: shaq + refs
2001: shaq
2002: shaq + refs
2009: their size inside with gasol, odom, Bynum
2010: their size inside with gasol, odom, Bynum
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[QUOTE=JebronLames]Carried his team to two championships.
Kobe was never the main reason for winning any of his championships.
2000: shaq + refs
2001: shaq
2002: shaq + refs
2009: their size inside with gasol, odom, Bynum
2010: their size inside with gasol, odom, Bynum[/QUOTE]
2012: refs
2013: ray allen
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[QUOTE=clutchinho]Looking back, it's amazing how little resistance Lebron has faced in the middle of his prime, the best players hes beaten in a series being
24 year old Dwight
[B]Celtics KG[/B]
23 year old Durant
[B]35 year old Duncan[/B]
Other than Dwight, all of those guys were either past or yet to enter their primes. You can argue that the 2nd and even 3rd options on Lebron's Heat teams would have been the first option on any of those opposition teams.
It's a reflection of the era we are in with stacked superteams and comically imbalanced conferences. Jordan had to go through the 80s Celtics, bad boy Pistons, prime Ewing, 24 year old Shaq, and that was just in his CONFERENCE. Duncan and Kobe had to face each other in their primes, yet the greatest challenge the best player of this era has faced is Dwight Howard.[/QUOTE]Celtics KG team and old Duncan's Spurs still got a ring out of their battle with Bran.
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Lebron was this close to being beat by the spurs twice in the finals instead of once
And that was Ray Allen being clutch
Then you think about past champions winning rings and whom their opponents were.
Lebrons resume isn't impressive.
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The thing that makes LeBron's title runs and all that so impressive is that the only way his teams won was because he had to do everything almost every game.
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[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]The thing that makes LeBron's title runs and all that so impressive is that the only way his teams won was because he had to do everything almost every game.[/QUOTE]
Basketball is a team sport and he left hometown to join a stacked team.
Then, he did everything by himself, still?
Sounds like he's a one dimensional player
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[QUOTE=Kaspah]Basketball is a team sport and he left hometown to join a stacked team.
Then, he did everything by himself, still?
Sounds like he's a one dimensional player[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
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What exactly are you trying to say?
It's Lebron's fault his prime doesnt correlate to the same primes as others players or that his team or other people's teams werent good enough to meet each other in certain years or they never got the opportunity to meet to match your agenda?
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[QUOTE=navy]What exactly are you trying to say?
It's Lebron's fault his prime doesnt correlate to the same primes as others players or that his team or other people's teams werent good enough to meet each other in certain years or they never got the opportunity to meet to match your agenda?[/QUOTE]
Despite the circumstances being no ones fault, the message remains: lebron hasn't faced great teams and lebron has team hopped to ring chase and narrowly escaped with two rings during his prime as "the best ball player on the planet".
Compare his rings and paths compared to other champions and he doesn't seem very impressive
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[QUOTE=Kaspah]Despite the circumstances being no ones fault, the message remains: lebron hasn't faced great teams and lebron has team hopped to ring chase and narrowly escaped with two rings during his prime as "the best ball player on the planet".
Compare his rings and paths compared to other champions and he doesn't seem very impressive[/QUOTE]
Lebron hasnt faced great teams because you say so? :oldlol:
lol, Lebron put up 30/10/6 on route to his first championship winning MVP and FMVP and put up 26/8/7 on route to repeating the MVP and FMVP. Definitely unimpressive. Get out of here with your bullshit.
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[QUOTE=navy]Lebron hasnt faced great teams because you say so? :oldlol:
lol, Lebron put up 30/10/6 on route to his first championship winning MVP and FMVP and put up 26/8/7 on route to repeating the MVP and FMVP. Definitely unimpressive. Get out of here with your bullshit.[/QUOTE]
It's definitely unimpressive when you're playing for your hometown as the best player in the game, choose to leave to join a stacked team, and like I said, narrowly escape with 2 rings over 4 finals appearances. Thunder victory was earned, but Ray Allen bailed him the fck out.
I'm talking about being a champion, not numbers. Lebron has ditched his hometown team to join a stacked team in a weak conference and went 2-4 in finals appearances, which was this close to being 1-4.
He's one dimensional. Not impressive. Can fill a stat sheet. Can't win.
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[QUOTE=Kaspah]It's definitely unimpressive when you're playing for your hometown as the best player in the game, choose to leave to join a stacked team, and like I said, narrowly escape with 2 rings over 4 finals appearances. Thunder victory was earned, but Ray Allen bailed him the fck out.
I'm talking about being a champion, not numbers. Lebron has ditched his hometown team to join a stacked team in a weak conference and went 2-4 in finals appearances, which was this close to being 1-4.
[B]He's one dimensional. Not impressive. Can fill a stat sheet. Can't win.[/B][/QUOTE]
I'm guessing you don't know what one dimensional and winning mean.
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[QUOTE=Kaspah]It's definitely unimpressive when you're playing for your hometown as the best player in the game, choose to leave to join a stacked team, and like I said, narrowly escape with 2 rings over 4 finals appearances. Thunder victory was earned, but Ray Allen bailed him the fck out.
I'm talking about being a champion, not numbers. Lebron has ditched his hometown team to join a stacked team in a weak conference and went 2-4 in finals appearances, which was this close to being 1-4.
He's one dimensional. Not impressive. Can fill a stat sheet. Can't win.[/QUOTE]
Ray Allen bailed them out and then what happened in Game 7? Lebron drops 37/10 seals the game and wins another Finals MVP. I mean how many points did Ray Allen score in Game 7? Hell how many did he score in game 6? What did he average in the series? He hit a big shot? So? Not like he was the only player on the team.
Lebron has multiple 60 win seasons, 2 FMVPS, 4 MVPS, a 27 game win streak on belt and averages 28/7/7 in the regular season, 28/8/6 in the postseason and hasnt even hit 30.
Dude is a stat stuffing non winning loser. :roll:
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[QUOTE=aj1987]I'm guessing you don't know what one dimensional and winning mean.[/QUOTE]
Can fill a stat sheet. Can't win.
Stat sheet filling but doesn't translate to wins- one dimensional, whereas someone with an expanded input on the game finds ways to win.
Can't win, finals appearances 2-5. One Ray Allen 3pt miss away from 1-5.