The battle for rank #10 all time... Hakeem vs Kobe

It might be debatable who had better career... or is it? I have my opinion.... but... its your show! Lets try and thread the needle here...

Look at these accomplishments first..... and then lets discuss/debate who has the edge out of these 2 players and why....

WHO HAD A BETTER CAREER?

here are the accomplishments/achievements, feel free to add some facts which you think will work in a players favour...:

[CENTER][SIZE="5"][U][B][COLOR="Yellow"]HAKEEM[/COLOR] [COLOR="Red"]OLAJUWON[/COLOR][/B][/U][/SIZE]
[img]http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/pauk666/Hakeem-Olajuwon-Slam-Dunk-Wallpaper.jpg[/img][/CENTER]

1 x MVP
2 x Finals MVP
2 x THE MAN Champion
2 x Defensive Player of The Year
1 x Olympic Gold Medalist
12 x All-Star
6 x All-NBA team
9 x All-Defensive team
1st All-Rookie team
NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team
Hall of Famer

[U]Notable highlight:[/U]
Is the first and only player in NBA history to win the MVP, FMVP, Championship and DPOY in one season....
Olajuwon ended his career in the top ten all-time in blocks, scoring, rebounding and steals
as he is the only player in NBA history to retire in the top ten for all four categories and is known as the best post player in NBA history.

[u]Rivals/Competition at his Position:[/u]
Shaquille Oneal
Patrick Ewing
Alonzo Mourning
David Robinson
Dikembe Mutombo

[u][B]PLAYOFFS STATS[/B]:[/u]
Points:..........25.9 @ 53% FG
Rebounds:.....11.2
Assists:...........3.2
Blocks:...........3.3
Steals:...........1.7
PER:.............25.7 (#5 all-time)

[U]Best Playoff run of at least 2 rounds, 1994-95[/U]:
33 ppg @ 53% FG
10 rpg
5 apg
4 bpg
2 spg

[u][B]SEASON STATS[/B]:[/u]
Points:...........21.8 @ 51% FG
Rebounds:......11.1
Assists:...........2.5
Blocks:...........3.1
Steals:............1.7
PER:..............23.6 (#16 all-time)

[U]Best season 1992-93[/U]:
26 ppg @ 53% FG
13 rpg
4 apg
4 bpg
2 spg
PER - 27.3

[CENTER][SIZE="5"][U][b][COLOR="DarkOrchid"]KOBE[/COLOR] [COLOR="Yellow"]BRYANT[/COLOR][/b][/U][/SIZE]
[img]http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/pauk666/Kobe-2011-Dunk-Widescreen-Wallpaper-BasketWallpapers_com-.jpg[/img][/CENTER]

1 x MVP
2 x Finals MVP
2 x THE MAN Champion + 3 x "Sidekick" Champion (not meaningless, but less value/context)
4 x All-Star MVP
1 x Olympic Gold Medalist
13 x All-Star
9 x All-NBA team
9 x All-Defensive team
2nd All-Rookie team

[U]Notable highlight:[/U]
Scored 81 points in a game which is the 2nd highest score in NBA history.

[u]Rivals/Competition at his Position:[/u]
Reggie Miller
Manu Ginobili
Dwyane Wade
Ray Allen
Monta Ellis

[u][B]PLAYOFFS STATS[/B]:[/u]
Points:.........25.4 @ 45% FG
Rebounds:......5.1
Assists:..........4.8
Blocks:...........0.7
Steals:...........1.7
PER:............22.3 (#20 all-time)

[U]Best Playoff run of at least 2 rounds, 2008-09[/U]:
30 ppg @ 46% FG
5 rpg
6 apg
1 bpg
2 spg

[u][B]SEASON STATS[/B]:[/u]
Points:.........25.3 @ 45% FG
Rebounds:......5.3
Assists:..........4.7
Blocks:...........0.5
Steals:...........1.5
PER:............23.5 (#17 all-time)

[U]Best season 2005-06[/U]:
35 ppg @ 45% FG
5 rpg
5 apg
0 bpg
1 spg
PER - 28.0

I would list both Hakeem and Kobe's rivals at their positions.

This battle shouldn't be about 10th all-time. Oscar Robertson is below them both, no doubt. And I wouldn't rank Duncan or Wilt ahead of Hakeem either.

[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]I would list both Hakeem and Kobe's rivals at their positions.[/QUOTE]

good idea... gona work on that

Kobe is tied for #7 on my list. Just saying. Don't say "battle for #10" like he has no case for being any higher.

Oscar Robertson has no case over Kobe

Hakeem is clearly ranked in front of Robertson. It's Oscar versus Kobe for that #10 spot..

Oscar Robertson isn't one of top 10 ever. So Hakeem & Kobe, both can be ranked in top 10.

[QUOTE=creepingdeath]Hakeem is clearly ranked in front of Robertson. It's Oscar versus Kobe for that #10 spot..[/QUOTE]

Kobe is better than both IMO.

Hakeem is one of my favorite players of all time though.

Kobe is 7-9 alltime
Hakeem is 10th

[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]I would list both Hakeem and Kobe's rivals at their positions.[/QUOTE]

Added 5....

Im not sure about the Kobe rivals at his position.... except for Dwyane Wade...

Its obvious Hakeem Olajuwon had MUCH tougher competition at his Position...

I don't really think Kobe has a case over Hakeem. Hakeem's peak (93-95) was GOAT level. I don't think you can say the same thing for Kobe, though he did have a incredible peak (06-08) himself. Just not quite on the same level.

Changed the Topic and text a little...

because i dont want this to be a Top 10 debate.... my bad tho..

its about who had a better career between HAKEEM and KOBE

:cheers:

Debate for 10th is between Kobe and Wilt.

[QUOTE=Fatal9]Debate for 10th is between Kobe and Wilt.[/QUOTE]

THIS.:cheers: