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I just wish he could've had five years leading the bulls. There's no doubt he wins an mvp and dpoy. While leading a team to a championship
But the tradeoff would've beeen the bulls not being nearly as dominant
and then he takes himself out of a game at the end :lol so much for being a leader :lol
LeBron would have passed it to Kukoc.
:D
...because he is unselfish like that.
[QUOTE=imdaman99]and then he takes himself out of a game at the end :lol so much for being a leader :lol[/QUOTE]
Great point! Pip is no doubt a top GOAT SF and a revolutionary player. In many ways he combined the athletic ability of Dr. J with the great all around ability of Hondo. The only difference is he never proved to be an alpha dog type like J or Hondo. If Pip would have showed that ability more often, I feel he would be a top 15 player of all time. Because dude had six rings, a couple of gold medals, redefined his position, and is arguably the greatest perimeter defender of all time. What stopped Pip from being a top 15 player was the alpha dog gene. He had so much going for him that he could have been ranked higher on the GOAT charts if he showed that more.
:applause:
pippen on ewing was better than jordan on ewing:rockon:
[QUOTE=97 bulls]I just wish he could've had five years leading the bulls. There's no doubt he wins an mvp and dpoy. While leading a team to a championship[/QUOTE]
He couldn't lead the Blazers with a 15 point lead in the 4th :facepalm
[QUOTE=WeGetRing2012]He couldn't lead the Blazers with a 15 point lead in the 4th :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Great point! Once again it shows that Pip lacked that alpha dog gene. Bron catches heat for alpha dog shit. But Bron completely dominates a game from the start. It's just in the waning moments where he might not be on the level of a Kobe, Bird, MJ, or Magic perimeter wise. But Bron still in my book qualifies as an alpha dog. That series against the Pistons back in the day and gettin that Cavs team to the Finals proved that. Pip was never even on Bron's level in alpha dog type shit.
[QUOTE=Jotaro Durant]pippen on ewing was better than jordan on ewing:rockon:[/QUOTE]
Yea Cause Pippen taller longer wingspan, Erwing was older and he didn't even jump that make sense :roll: :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=bizil]Great point! Pip is no doubt a top GOAT SF and a revolutionary player. In many ways he combined the athletic ability of Dr. J with the great all around ability of Hondo. The only difference is he never proved to be an alpha dog type like J or Hondo. If Pip would have showed that ability more often, I feel he would be a top 15 player of all time. Because dude had six rings, a couple of gold medals, redefined his position, and is arguably the greatest perimeter defender of all time. What stopped Pip from being a top 15 player was the alpha dog gene. He had so much going for him that he could have been ranked higher on the GOAT charts if he showed that more.[/QUOTE]
Haha really?
Let's not forget he can't shoot worth a damn (or doing anything of much use without Jordan by his side) at the perimeter could be a slight problem.
[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]Haha really?
Let's not forget he can't shoot worth a damn (or doing anything of much use without Jordan by his side) at the perimeter could be a slight problem.[/QUOTE]
There's truth in your words, Pippen wasnt the best shooter. His 3 point shot was not consistent enough, but he had a good mid range jumper along with plenty of finishing moves around the basket.
But stating he could not do anything of use without Jordan is just plain delusional, and shows extreme bias IMO.
Question: Do you have to be a leader or alpha dog to be considered a better player than some other greatest players who [I]were [/I]alpha dogs? I dont think so.
Pete Myers :roll: