Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?

My brain simply can NOT percieve the thought of such a viciously awesome defender (perhaps the greatest perimeter defender and most versatile defender ever) never winning Defensive Player of the Year...

Was it just because of competition maybe? Afterall Hakeem, Dikembe, Robinson, Jordan, Rodman and Payton were around....?

What are your thoughts on this?

He fell to the hype machine that Jordan was. AKA, Jordan the ballhog stole a Dpoy from Pippen.

[QUOTE=Punpun]He fell to the hype machine that Jordan was. AKA, Jordan the ballhog stole a Dpoy from Pippen.[/QUOTE]


6 rings later, I'm pretty sure Scottie is fine with it :rolleyes:

Unfortunately for Pippen he played in one of the strongest eras for dominant centers.

And no, Jordan didn't steal a DPOY from Pippen. Jordan won his in 1988, when Pippen was a rookie.

That's how good pippen was and how hard he got robbed.

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Unfortunately for Pippen he played in one of the strongest eras for dominant centers.

And no, Jordan didn't steal a DPOY from Pippen. Jordan won his in 1988, when Pippen was a rookie.[/QUOTE]

Jordan didn't technically steal a DPOY from Pippen, but being a comparable defender as a teammate while also playing in the perimeter reduced Pippen's chances to showcase his defensive dominance better (you know, the pretty flawed argument of "he's not even the best ... in his own team"). Between '92 and '97, this probably worked vice-versa, as well.

[QUOTE=Psileas]Jordan didn't technically steal a DPOY from Pippen, but being a comparable defender as a teammate while also playing in the perimeter reduced Pippen's chances to showcase his defensive dominance better (you know, the pretty flawed argument of "he's not even the best ... in his own team"). Between '92 and '97, this probably worked vice-versa, as well.[/QUOTE]

I could argue that Pippen stole a second DPOY from Jordan.

[QUOTE=Psileas]Jordan didn't technically steal a DPOY from Pippen, but being a comparable defender as a teammate while also playing in the perimeter reduced Pippen's chances to showcase his defensive dominance better (you know, the pretty flawed argument of "he's not even the best ... in his own team"). Between '92 and '97, this probably worked vice-versa, as well.[/QUOTE]

Always very intelligent posts. :cheers:

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]I could argue that Pippen stole a second DPOY from Jordan.[/QUOTE]

Argue all you want. Won't make you right.

Considering competition, even Jordan shouldnt have won. It was even harder for Pippen, not only to outshine more impactfull defenders, but also MJ.

In this era he could have won, but then again Duncan has zero DPOY, Garnett only one, etc.

Yes, he was. It's a crime how he didn't win a DPOY.

Same with Duncan..

[QUOTE=pauk]My brain simply can NOT percieve the thought of such a viciously awesome defender (perhaps the greatest perimeter defender and most versatile defender ever) never winning Defensive Player of the Year...

Was it just because of competition maybe? Afterall Hakeem, Dikembe, Robinson, Jordan, Rodman and Payton were around....?

What are your thoughts on this?[/QUOTE]

[B][SIZE="3"]Pippen became only 2nd "perimeter" player to record 100 blks/200 stls in single season after Jordan.

[U]MJ did it TWICE in back-2-back seasons he went for 100/250+ stls to secure DPOY.[/U]

PIPPEN in '90s never did that again to secure DPOY title.

this goes to show how tough it was to WIN DPOY title by perimeter player.

If you go by the logic, the standard set by MJ as DPOY win was very high. Pippen could not match it. Even his 100/200 blk/stls season, he BARELY made it.

Not good enough to secure DPOY title.[/SIZE][/B]

I'd say no, especially not unless someone presents a specific year where there's a compelling case for "Pippen > everyone else".

It's partially a function of era and partially to do with the relative value of perimeter defenders versus big man (plus a little of the aforementioned MJ and Pip negating one another in voters minds).
It doesn't mean Pip wasn't one of the greatest wing defenders ever.

I look at DPOY like COY in that its not really a such a career-defining award. If I'm comparing Scottie Pippen, Michael Jordan, Gary Payton, and Joe Dumars as defenders, the fact that Pippen and Dumars don't have any DPOYs while Jordan and Payton each have one does not cross my mind. I don't really think COY or DPOY are awards that people really care about that much or that voters put that much thought to like they do the MVP.

I thought it was funny that people were raving about Larry Bird having the greatest overall basketball career in history cause he's won COY and EOY. Did anyone really think he's ever been that special in either? Do people realize Jerry Sloan and Rick Adelman have never won COY and that Sam Presti and RC Buford have never won EOY?

At least with MVPs, the greatest of the greats that are consistently great every year for a long time at least win 1 MVP so it seems alot more meaningful. Awards like DPOY, COY, and EOY don't really go like that.

i think it was a crime but he wasnt deserving over mutumbo/hakeem/david/rodman or any of those elite defensive centers. the DPOY is and will always be a center/PF driven award