Fact.
He turns 30 this year and took a step backwards by going to Cleveland.
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Fact.
He turns 30 this year and took a step backwards by going to Cleveland.
yeah most likely not
He's already matched Kobe in rings as the leader and has a chance to get another one.
And this is being generous to Kobe, as Gasol was better in the 2010 Finals.
U mad?
All he wants is one in Cleveland apparently.
He won't. I don't think he cares anymore. He just wants to win one for Cleveland. If he did his resume is still impressive.
I think he finishes with 4 or 5.
1 in Cleveland, and he's well past Kobe.
Probably not, but even 3 Rings + 3 FMVPS evens him with Kobe IMO
Horry the GOAT :bowdown: :bowdown:
Truth.
Still might pass Kobe in FMVPs though.
Yeah, this move sets him back--and does so during his peak. He presumably will start to decline in 2-3 years as the other Cavs start to hit their groove. Still, this move makes him a heavy favorite to win the MVP next year. The story, combined with him being the best player in the league and the improvement from 33 wins make the MVP his to lose unless someone else has an amazing season. That would give him 5 MVP's at age 30--which would tie him with MJ and Russell and put him just 1 behind KAJ's record of 6. 4-5 rings with 6-7 MVP's is a reasonable projection for him right now. If he achieves that, he has a case for GOAT.
[QUOTE=tmacattack33]He's already matched Kobe in rings as the leader and has a chance to get another one.
And this is being generous to Kobe, as Gasol was better in the 2010 Finals.
U mad?[/QUOTE]
nah having wade+bosh is better than having shaq
[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock]Yeah, this move sets him back--and does so during his peak. He presumably will start to decline in 2-3 years as the other Cavs start to hit their groove. Still, this move makes him a heavy favorite to win the MVP next year. The story, combined with him being the best player in the league and the improvement from 33 wins make the MVP his to lose unless someone else has an amazing season. That would give him 5 MVP's at age 30--which would tie him with MJ and Russell and put him just 1 behind KAJ's record of 6. 4-5 rings with 6-7 MVP's is a reasonable projection for him right now. If he achieves that, he has a case for GOAT.[/QUOTE]
Eh, I'd say 4 rings, 3-4 FMVP's, 5 MVP's is where he'll finish
[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock]Yeah, this move sets him back--and does so during his peak. He presumably will start to decline in 2-3 years as the other Cavs start to hit their groove. Still, this move makes him a heavy favorite to win the MVP next year. The story, combined with him being the best player in the league and the improvement from 33 wins make the MVP his to lose unless someone else has an amazing season. That would give him 5 MVP's at age 30--which would tie him with MJ and Russell and put him just 1 behind KAJ's record of 6. 4-5 rings with 6-7 MVP's is a reasonable projection for him right now. [B]If he achieves that, he has a case for GOAT[/B].[/QUOTE]
Wow, never thought I'd hear that from a Bulls fan. No bias from you :cheers:
[QUOTE=knicksman]nah having wade+bosh is better than having shaq[/QUOTE]
Not sure if serious