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Why would he hide the fact that they'd seen the video?
Was he pressured by owners? Or was he trying to use not seeing the video as a justification for the short suspension, which he figured was fine at the time he handed it down?
His job shouldn't have been at risk in the slightest, but now everybody seems to be saying he won't survive this. :facepalm
[QUOTE=fpliii]Why would he hide the fact that they'd seen the video?
Was he pressured by owners? Or was he trying to use not seeing the video as a justification for the short suspension, which he figured was fine at the time he handed it down?
His job shouldn't have been at risk in the slightest, but now everybody seems to be saying he won't survive this. :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Edit: N/m, now seeing the article youre referencing.
Why are people more upset at the NFL than at Ray Rice's actions or the judge that sentenced him to a love tap on the wrist? Or the woman who has given his actions the seal of approval by marrying him?
This is a case of the media leading the herds into a particular direction, and everyone stampeding that direction with soapbox tucked firmly under their arm, hoping to get their moment to wax morally superior and admonish the big bad corporation.
Nobody in the NFL offices beat up any women. The gave him a suspension. Where is the outrage at Ray, at his wife, at the justice system? Why is everyone zeroed in on the NFL? They arent Ray Rice's baby sitter. Theyre not the judicial system. They're a business; their employee screwed up and they suspended him. If you think it was too light, then dont watch the ravens. Dont go to NFL games. But the soapbox nonsense here like the NFL is promoting domestic violence is weaksauce. They deserve the least amount of blame in all this tbh.
best case scenario goodell is an incompetent idiot
worst case scenario goodell is a scumbag and a liar
neither scenario is particularly good for his future as commish of the NFL
He's pretty much screwed up every major issue on his watch outside of the last CBA. I mean he royally ****ed up this, bounty-gate, concussions, Irsay, etc.
[QUOTE=DeuceWallaces]He's pretty much screwed up every major issue on his watch outside of the last CBA. I mean he royally ****ed up this, bounty-gate, concussions, Irsay, etc.[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:
If only everyone wa$ $o lucky to $crew up like Roger Goodell ha$
Who cares if they got the video or not or whether they have seen it. The NFL is a business and like someone mentioned, it is not their job to babysit these people.
I don't care if Goodell thinks it is ok to beat up women because thinking about it is not a crime then actually doing it. All this stuff that is going on is public outrage. Calm down people.
I want to see people try to boycott this league. NFL is our past time and I doubt people will do so.
I tend to agree with starface on some of this. The first punishment was clearly way too light, but the "face saving" moves after the video leaked were just as dumb. IMO this is a legal issue first and foremost (now, did he get treated well because hes rich? of course he did). Goodell should have stood by his initial punishment.
However, if Goodell has lied about seeing the video, I cannot imagine him retaining his commission. Too much public outcry in a sport fueled by public attention.
Why is there an outrage? If Goodell did see the video then he basically did what was right and suspended Rice for 2 games. Whether the punishment fits the crime is not for the public to decide but the NFL.
They are just mad at him because he didn't throw the hammer at Rice earlier. Who cares if he should have or not. The point is, nobody decides on this except Goodell.
Cry all you want.
I haven't followed this story but I don't see how anyone can say people are more upsets at the league over Rice. There is enough outrage to go around but to go further you need to stop blaming the media when it's they are giving the public what it wants.
[QUOTE=boozehound]I tend to agree with starface on some of this. The first punishment was clearly way too light, but the "face saving" moves after the video leaked were just as dumb. IMO this is a legal issue first and foremost (now, did he get treated well because hes rich? of course he did). Goodell should have stood by his initial punishment.
However, if Goodell has lied about seeing the video, I cannot imagine him retaining his commission. Too much public outcry in a sport fueled by public attention.[/QUOTE]
Punishment too light? Employers don't punish players it is up to the legal system to punish them. The NFL is just like all of us, we all have differing opinions on the situation. I don't think that beating was that bad and I think she provoked him. The NFL probably felt the same way as I do.
You can judge the court of law on whether the punishment fits the crime but the you cannot hold the NFL with the same standards as the courts.
[QUOTE=boozehound]I tend to agree with starface on some of this. The first punishment was clearly way too light, but the "face saving" moves after the video leaked were just as dumb. IMO this is a legal issue first and foremost (now, did he get treated well because hes rich? of course he did). Goodell should have stood by his initial punishment.
However, if Goodell has lied about seeing the video, I cannot imagine him retaining his commission. Too much public outcry in a sport fueled by public attention.[/QUOTE]
He got the same punishment anyone who pleaded guilty and then married his fiance would get.
Honestly, the outrage from the video is facetious. We already knew what happened. :facepalm
[QUOTE=9erempiree]Why is there an outrage? [B]If Goodell did see the video then he basically did what was right and suspended Rice for 2 games.[/B] Whether the punishment fits the crime is not for the public to decide but the NFL.
They are just mad at him because he didn't throw the hammer at Rice earlier. Who cares if he should have or not. The point is, nobody decides on this except Goodell.
Cry all you want.[/QUOTE]
Well up until now he's maintained in no uncertain terms that he hadn't seen the video. I think the thing is people can agree to disagree on the deserved punishment. But if Goodell told a bold faced lie about a serious issue, that's gonna be tough to recover from.
It's been embarrassing watching the NFL get bent over by the media and mob like this. Obviously as a business you have to position yourself generally in accordance with your customers, but here they've literally been letting Joe Soapbox call the shots on a move-by-move basis. Might as well have a viewer call-in voting system at halftime of Monday Night for every key league decision. The NFL looks weak and intimidated. They should know a temporary transgression like this isn't going to squelch America's need for pro football.
They made a PR mistake with the weak suspension. Own it, apologize, and commit to improvement going forward. That's all they have to do. They're the NFL. They're trying to shuck and jive with every new bit of info the public gets and its just disgraceful. They aren't the ones who beat anyone up. They don't need to grovel to the fans. They don't need to beg and plead. Rice had a clean record, his fiance stood up for him, and the courts gave him diversion. If the NFL had banned him for the season, they'd probably have the fukcing NAACP calling in bomb threats to league offices. There's no way they were gonna win in this thing. People just want to attack the big bad corporation because that's the easiest target. The NFL isn't responsible for Ray Rice's relationship with women. That's between Ray Rice, his wife, and if necessary law enforcement. Sure, a four game suspension probably would have been more appropriate from a PR standpoint. But so what. They made a mistake, big deal. They have bigger things to worry about running an entire league then exactly how long to suspend one player out of hundreds.
NBA Commissioner - Jew
NHL Commissioner - Jew
MLB Commissioner - Jew
NFL Commissioner - Gentile
The problem is obvious...rely on the gentile, this is what happens. :facepalm
Hopefully we uncover more about Goodell's horrible tenure. That's the one positive thing about this whole Rice situation.
peple have hated Goodell since he became comissioner. he came in like a hard ass tho talking a lot of shit, and he's sort of young jerkoff looking so its easier to hate on him from the get go.
i think the owners might ask him to resign. Congress is involved, there are back room calls going on right now between powerful people to rich people and the NFL organization is taking a beating. its amazing to me since i swear TMZ kept pushing on Goodell when other media weren't. right after Rice got let go, they went hard after Goodell, the TMZ owner did interviews on CNN saying they were going to come out with somethign big that the NFL knew, and then all this shit happens where Goodell is the next social media villain to get hung.
i actually feel less sorry for him than i do Rice and Sterling lol. i never liked him either.