Distance traveled per 48 minutes - Lebron's is a league-bottom 3.0 miles

(Lebron is on 13th page of 14): [url]http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/speed/?sort=DIST_48&dir=1&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season[/url]

Harden is also at a league-bottom 3.0 miles.. Chris Paul's is at 3.1 miles.. Westbrook's is 3.3.. All the heavy ball-dominators are < 3.5 miles.. And they're stats are identical in the playoffs.

Otoh, all the high-assisted, off-ball players are > 3.5 miles.. Korver, Danny Green, Kawhi Leonard, Klay Thompson, Steph Curry - all the off-ball players have over 3.5 miles traveled per 48 minutes, which means [I]off-ball players travel almost 20% further than Lebron every 48 minutes[/I].

So don't be fooled into thinking ball-dominators are expending more energy with their playground style because they're not - they're actually traveling a shorter distance than everyone else, which is remarkable since ball-dominators have the highest time of possession.. The low distance traveled coupled with high time of possessions means that Chris Paul, Lebron, and other ball-dominators spend a lot of time just standing around with the ball.
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Are you ever going to make a thread that's not about Jordan/LeBron?

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]Are you ever going to make a thread that's not about Jordan/LeBron?[/QUOTE]

That is his specialty. 3ball is a scientist. Why would you ask a biochemist to write about astrophysics?

3ball's MJ obsession sometimes overshadow his very good thread ideas.
And this is a very good thread idea with perfect execution.
Facts, no biases, just straight up murdering fools.
You should always be like this, friend

And he still cramps up:facepalm

had no idea dudes running around screens travelled more distances

[QUOTE=SugarHill]had no idea dudes running around screens travelled more distances[/QUOTE]
Seems counterintuitive, but it actually isn't.

And the fact that ball-dominators travel a shorter distance than everyone else is particularly remarkable since ball-dominators have the highest [I]time of possession[/I].

The low distance traveled along with high time of possession means that Chris Paul, Lebron, and all ball-dominators spend a lot of time just standing around with the ball... which is confirmed pretty clearly by a cursory eye test.

[QUOTE=3ball](Lebron is on 13th page of 14): [url]http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/speed/?sort=DIST_48&dir=1&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season[/url]

Harden is also at a league-bottom 3.0 miles.. Chris Paul's is at 3.1 miles.. Westbrook's is 3.3.. All the heavy ball-dominators are < 3.5 miles.. And they're stats are identical in the playoffs.

Otoh, all the high-assisted, off-ball players are > 3.5 miles.. Korver, Danny Green, Kawhi Leonard, Klay Thompson, Steph Curry - all the off-ball players have over 3.5 miles traveled per 48 minutes, which means [I]off-ball players travel almost 20% further than Lebron every 48 minutes[/I].

So don't be fooled into thinking ball-dominators are expending more energy with their playground style because they're not - they're actually traveling a shorter distance than everyone else, which is remarkable since ball-dominators have the highest time of possession.. The low distance traveled coupled with high time of possessions means that Chris Paul, Lebron, and other ball-dominators spend a lot of time just standing around with the ball.
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You're melting down because Curry runs 0.5 miles more per game than LeBron?

Kevin Durant runs pretty much the same as LeBron, BTW. Kobe as well (the sample size is small though).

[QUOTE=3ball]Seems counterintuitive, but it actually isn't.

And the fact that ball-dominators travel a shorter distance than everyone else is particularly remarkable since ball-dominators have the highest [I]time of possession[/I].

The low distance traveled along with high time of possession means that Chris Paul, Lebron, and all ball-dominators spend a lot of time just standing around with the ball... which is confirmed pretty clearly by a cursory eye test.[/QUOTE]
You've never watched a game of basketball, have you?

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You're melting down because Curry runs 0.5 miles more per game than LeBron?

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0.5 miles is a ton - it's 20% more than Lebron every game..

And it isn't just Curry - it's ALL off-ball players - Korver, Danny Green, Kawhi, etc.. Off-ball players travel about 20% further in games than ball-dominators like Lebron, Harden, CP3, etc.

So the notion that Lebron expended so much energy "running the show" for Cleveland is proven wrong by the stats... The stats also prove that even though ball-dominators travel the least distances in games, they still have the highest time of possession, which proves they stand around a lot.

Its called [I]navigational efficiency[/I], getting the most production with the [I]least amount of steps[/I]

LeBron is the most navigational efficient player in the league, no player produces more per step than him.


OP wouldnt understand

[QUOTE=warriorfan]That is his specialty. 3ball is a scientist. Why would you ask a biochemist to write about astrophysics?[/QUOTE]


Right? Right?

You don't ask Michelangelo to explain the Theory of Relativity.

You don't ask Bill Gates to paint the Mona Lisa.

You don't ask Stevie Wonder to race in the Daytona 500.

And you don't ask rent freeball to discuss anything other than MJ vs Lebron.

Running mile is not that tiring but attacking the basket and getting hit is a lot more tiring. Running more is not guaranteed to create more physical exertion. Their is more than that to the equation. Like jumping, fighting for position, shooting, defending, at asking the basket. All you are saying is that off ball players run more.

GOAT navigation efficiency, OP? :eek:
:oldlol:

[QUOTE=TripleA]


Their is more than that to the equation. Like [B]jumping, fighting for position, shooting, defending, at asking the basket[/B]. All you are saying is that off ball players run more.


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kawhi does all that plus he runs an additional half mile a game.
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Their are so many factors that we can simply say that Lebron does not expend as much energy as off ball players. If isolated every variable except for distance ran and test their energy expenditure than you can that Lebron does not expend energy but you cannot so your analysis is bias. Also Lebron plays much more minutes than those players and is older so those are other variables in this analysis. If you going to look at basketball scientifically you have to take your analysis a step at a time.