We won in spite of Jordan getting on guys - Pippen
Another haymaker from Pippen:
[Quote]"In the doc, Michael attempted to justify the occasions in which he berated a teammate in front of the group. He felt these guys needed to develop the toughest to get past the the NBA's more physical teams. Seeing again how poorly Michael treated his teammates, I cringed, as I did back then.
"Michael was wrong. We didn't win six championships because he got on guys. We won in spite of his getting on guys. We won because we played team basketball, which hadn't been the case my first two seasons, when Doug Collins was our coach. That's what was special about playing for the Bulls: the camaraderie we established with one another, not that we felt blessed to be on the same team with the immortal Michael Jordan.
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Pippen spitting truth right now.
Re: We won in spite of Jordan getting on guys - Pippen
They didn't win the first 2 seasons because Pippen sabotaged the Pistons series. They had Phil in '90 when MJ averaged 37/7/7/3 in the Playoffs and they were a game from the Finals and winning it all. What happened in that Game 7?
Pippen + Grant + Hodges + Cartwright + Armstrong combined for 28 pts on 11/57 shooting (19.29%) vs MJ's 13/27 FG for 31 points. Maybe MJ should have played less team basketball in that game and taken those shots himself.
Re: We won in spite of Jordan getting on guys - Pippen
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14474718]They didn't win the first 2 seasons because Pippen sabotaged the Pistons series. They had Phil in '90 when MJ averaged 37/7/7/3 in the Playoffs and they were a game from the Finals and winning it all. What happened in that Game 7?
Pippen + Grant + Hodges + Cartwright + Armstrong combined for 28 pts on 11/57 shooting (19.29%) vs MJ's 13/27 FG for 31 points. Maybe MJ should have played less team basketball in that game and taken those shots himself.[/QUOTE]
Ethered. Next thread.
Re: We won in spite of Jordan getting on guys - Pippen
MJ stains in full on meltdown mode now :oldlol:
Re: We won in spite of Jordan getting on guys - Pippen
[QUOTE=8Ball;14474715]Another haymaker from Pippen:
Pippen spitting truth right now.[/QUOTE]
This is believable. I have never once won on a team where the "leader" berated teammates. It's usually the voice of reason guy who glues the group together. Jordan was lucky to have a Pippen to be the dam of MJs shit flood. And to a lesser extent Cliff Livingston.
Re: We won in spite of Jordan getting on guys - Pippen
If Pippen wasn't a great teammate Jordan would not be able to berate his teammates to 50 wins.
Re: We won in spite of Jordan getting on guys - Pippen
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14474718]They didn't win the first 2 seasons because Pippen sabotaged the Pistons series. They had Phil in '90 when MJ averaged 37/7/7/3 in the Playoffs and they were a game from the Finals and winning it all. What happened in that Game 7?
Pippen + Grant + Hodges + Cartwright + Armstrong combined for 28 pts on 11/57 shooting (19.29%) vs MJ's 13/27 FG for 31 points. Maybe MJ should have played less team basketball in that game and taken those shots himself.[/QUOTE]
No excuses.
LeBron had even less help in 2018 playoffs and made the finals.
Re: We won in spite of Jordan getting on guys - Pippen
[QUOTE=8Ball;14474748]No excuses.
LeBron had even less help in 2018 playoffs and made the finals.[/QUOTE]
What happened in the Finals? Remember, no excuses.
Re: We won in spite of Jordan getting on guys - Pippen
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14474718]They didn't win the first 2 seasons because Pippen sabotaged the Pistons series. They had Phil in '90 when MJ averaged 37/7/7/3 in the Playoffs and they were a game from the Finals and winning it all. What happened in that Game 7?
Pippen + Grant + Hodges + Cartwright + Armstrong combined for 28 pts on 11/57 shooting (19.29%) vs MJ's 13/27 FG for 31 points. Maybe MJ should have played less team basketball in that game and taken those shots himself.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=theman93;14474752]What happened in the Finals? Remember, no excuses.[/QUOTE]
Imkobe blamed Pippen for not making finals in 1990.
Re: We won in spite of Jordan getting on guys - Pippen
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14474718]They didn't win the first 2 seasons because Pippen sabotaged the Pistons series. They had Phil in '90 when MJ averaged 37/7/7/3 in the Playoffs and they were a game from the Finals and winning it all. What happened in that Game 7?
Pippen + Grant + Hodges + Cartwright + Armstrong combined for 28 pts on 11/57 shooting (19.29%) vs MJ's 13/27 FG for 31 points. Maybe MJ should have played less team basketball in that game and taken those shots himself.[/QUOTE]
How did Pippen sabotage that series? Wasn't it Jordan that decided to stop shooting in game 5 because the coach told him he was being selfish?
And we gonna not give Pippen any kind of slack for having a bad game when he lost his father 3 weeks before that game 7? But we excuse Jordan for retiring a few weeks before the start of the season because his dad died? Wow.
Re: We won in spite of Jordan getting on guys - Pippen
[QUOTE=8Ball;14474746]If Pippen wasn't a great teammate Jordan would not be able to berate his teammates to 50 wins.[/QUOTE]
Exactly!!! How do people miss this? How many players do you think would put up with that day after day before demanding a trade? Or even worse pulling a Ron Artest and hurting Jordan. On any other team, Jordan's behavior would've made him a locker room cancer.
Re: We won in spite of Jordan getting on guys - Pippen
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14474718]They didn't win the first 2 seasons because Pippen sabotaged the Pistons series. They had Phil in '90 when MJ averaged 37/7/7/3 in the Playoffs and they were a game from the Finals and winning it all. What happened in that Game 7?
Pippen + Grant + Hodges + Cartwright + Armstrong combined for 28 pts on 11/57 shooting (19.29%) vs MJ's 13/27 FG for 31 points. Maybe MJ should have played less team basketball in that game and taken those shots himself.[/QUOTE]first reply body bag. 8ball should just retire from this site honestly :lol
Re: We won in spite of Jordan getting on guys - Pippen
[QUOTE=8Ball;14474794]Imkobe blamed Pippen for not making finals in 1990.[/QUOTE]
And do you not blame Lebron's supporting cast for all the Finals he's lost?
Re: We won in spite of Jordan getting on guys - Pippen
[QUOTE=outofstomach;14474801]first reply body bag. 8ball should just retire from this site honestly :lol[/QUOTE]
Name me the 50 win seasons Jordan had without Pippen?
I won't be holding my breath.
Re: We won in spite of Jordan getting on guys - Pippen
In games Pippen missed during their title years, the Bulls went 32-12 which is 60-win pace.