Top 50 List Revisited

We just wrapped up the top 50 list a few days ago. We have a pretty good list.

#1 - Michael Jordan
#2 - Lebron James
#3 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
#4 - Bill Russell
#5 - Wilt Chamberlain
#6 - Magic Johnson
#7 - Shaquille O'Neal
#8 - Tim Duncan
#9 - Larry Bird
#10 - Hakeem Olajuwon
#11 - Kobe Bryant
#12 - Stephen Curry
#13 - Oscar Robertson
#14 - Jerry West
#15 - Moses Malone
#16 - Julius Erving
#17 - Kevin Durant
#18 - Kevin Garnett
#19 - Karl Malone
#20 - Dirk Nowitzki
#21 - Charles Barkley
#22 - David Robinson
#23 - Dwyane Wade
#24 - Elgin Baylor
#25 - Scottie Pippen
#26 - Giannis Antetokounmpo
#27 - John Havlicek
#28 - Isiah Thomas
#29 - Bob Pettit
#30 - Chris Paul
#31 - Kawhi Leonard
#32 - Rick Barry
#33 - James Harden
#34 - Patrick Ewing
#35 - Bob Cousy
#36 - John Stockton
#37 - Jason Kidd
#38 - Steve Nash
#39 - Willis Reed
#40 - Walt Frazier
#41 - Allen Iverson
#42 - Clyde Drexler
#43 - Russell Westbrook
#44 - Kevin McHale
#45 - Elvin Hayes
#46 - George Gervin
#47 - Gary Payton
#48 - Bill Walton
#49 - Dominique Wilkins
#50 - Dwight Howard

All the positions are represented well:
- 12 point guards
- 8 shooting guards
- 10 small forwards
- 9 power forwards
- 11 centers

All the decades are represented well:
- 7 players who peaked in the late 50's and 60's
- 8 players who peaked in the 70's
- 7 players who peaked in the 80's
- 9 players who peaked in the 90's
- 10 players who peaked in the 00's
- 9 players who peaked in the 10's

Player with least All-NBA appearances: Kevin McHale with 1.
Player with least All-Star game appearances: Bill Walton with 2.
Player(s) with no NBA Finals appearances: Steve Nash, George Gervin, Dominique Wilkins.

Solid list!

Players I'd move to later positions:
McHale at 44
Curry at 12
Wade at 23
Isiah Thomas at 28

Players I'd move to earlier positions:
Chris Paul at 30
Jason Kidd at 37

That's actually not the worst list I've seen( considering this is ISH we're talking about :lol), at least relative to some of the lists from USA today, SLAM etc.

For as much of a shithole as this place is, this is actually a very respectable list. With the exception of Walton, the only truly bad pick of the list, all these guys would make my top 50 as well, or at least be in contention for it.

Only 31 players from the original top 50 made the list.

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14484967]For as much of a shithole as this place is, this is actually a very respectable list. With the exception of Walton, the only truly bad pick of the list, all these guys would make my top 50 as well, or at least be in contention for it.[/QUOTE]

Isiah at 28 sits right with you? To me that might be the worst misplacing by about 20 spots.

Just looking at the RealGM list made last year October 2020, some interesting disparities between our list and theirs

Curry
ISH: 12
RGM: 24

Nash
ISH: 38
RGM: 27

Kawhi
ISH: 31
RGM: 42

Isiah
ISH: 28
RGM: 43

Hayes
ISH: 45
RGM: 59

Cousy
ISH: 35
RGM: 63

Iverson
ISH: 41
RGM: 66

Wilkins
ISH: 49
RGM: 73

Giannis
ISH: 26
RGM: 74

Walton
ISH: 48
RGM: 100

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14484992]Just looking at the RealGM list made last year October 2020, some interesting disparities between our list and theirs

Curry
ISH: 12
RGM: 24

Nash
ISH: 38
RGM: 27

Kawhi
ISH: 31
RGM: 42

Isiah
ISH: 28
RGM: 43

Hayes
ISH: 45
RGM: 59

Cousy
ISH: 35
RGM: 63

Iverson
ISH: 41
RGM: 66

Wilkins
ISH: 49
RGM: 73

Giannis
ISH: 26
RGM: 74

Walton
ISH: 48
RGM: 100[/QUOTE]

Honestly of the ones posted here I like all of our rankings more than theirs.

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14484992]Just looking at the RealGM list made last year October 2020, some interesting disparities between our list and theirs

Curry
ISH: 12
RGM: 24

Nash
ISH: 38
RGM: 27

Kawhi
ISH: 31
RGM: 42

Isiah
ISH: 28
RGM: 43

Hayes
ISH: 45
RGM: 59

Cousy
ISH: 35
RGM: 63

Iverson
ISH: 41
RGM: 66

Wilkins
ISH: 49
RGM: 73

Giannis
ISH: 26
RGM: 74

Walton
ISH: 48
RGM: 100[/QUOTE]
Nobody is taking a list with Horace Grant, Jeff Hornacek and Terry Porter in the top 100 serious.
They have Rasheed Wallace over Giannis.

RealGM and overrating the ever-living crap out of Nash and Garnett - name a more iconic combo.

I actually think the Insidehoops list is a lot better, you can certainly argue some of the particular placings but more often than not, a player belongs +- 5 spots around where they are ranked. The Bill Walton placement is wacky but at least the man had one of the 25 or so best peaks ever (albeit a very short one) so it doesn't bother me that much. Isaiah is a weird case - you could move him well below or even a little above depending on your perspective. I will say that he is better than Chris Paul, advanced statistics be damned. He played on teams that were for the most part comparable or even worse than Paul's, and achieve much more in a really strong era (when considering the top end of the league).

Going to 60 or 75 would've been interesting. Lot of interesting names left off

[QUOTE=dankok8;14484997]Honestly of the ones posted here I like all of our rankings more than theirs.[/QUOTE]

No shit!

I mean, I know I'm a Steph's homer, but 24!?!

People with 2 MVPs and 3 chips are that common in NBA I guess.

The idiots have Giannis at 74! If he retired tomorrow, he would have accomplished more than Garnett, who half of them have in their top 10s, his rank on their list is 11.

ISH surprisingly has a much better list than RGM. Having Giannis at 74 even before his championship is bizarre. That's an MVP and DPOTY....

[QUOTE=Zeppelin;14485016]The idiots have Giannis at 74! If he retired tomorrow, he would have accomplished more than Garnett, who half of them have in their top 10s, his rank on their list is 11.[/QUOTE]
Garnett has to be the most overrated player in the league when it comes to people who watch ball and want to show clever they are. 11th! :facepalm