Top 10 most overrated list which exists just to farm engagement.
It’s too all over the place to feel like there was a theme other than getting Internet reactions. Like having both Stockton and Iverson. It almost feels like you have to pick one. They shouldn’t both be on an overrated list.
But I’ll use it for the same purpose here so I can’t judge….
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7 of those 10 were at least part-time point guards. 3 of 7 were pass-first. Not that there is any reason I can see for this without some kind of accompanying article but that's disproportionate.
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[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14845499]7 of those 10 were at least part-time point guards. 3 of 7 were pass-first. Not that there is any reason I can see for this without some kind of accompanying article but that's disproportionate.[/QUOTE]
I’m wondering what aspect of basketball you are into to think Gary Payton is overrated. He’s scored. He was a good play maker. He was one of the best defenders at his position ever. Elite some really good teams even with the couple upsets.
He seems a weird guy to list. No one agenda or belief system would seem to justify it.
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If anything Wilt, Magic, and Rondo are underrated. Wilt was an absolute monster and nobody talks about him anymore, Magic injected life into a soul-less Kareem led Lakers, and Rondo has always shown up in the playoffs when the stakes are highest earning the nick name playoff Rondo. How those guys are on the list is totally preposterous.
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The only guys on that list that are overrated are derozan, rose, ja, and Iverson.
Imagine making this list and having Magic Johnson near the top and leaving out Russell Westbrook. Whoever compiled this needs to loaded into a space shuttle shot out to the deepest void in the universe.
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Iverson is underrated if anything.
Big portion of fans today are stat nerds. They immediately see Iverson's FG% and write him off as a chucker....with minimal impact. :lol
Magic being THE most overrated player though is absurd. Whoever came up with this list couldn't care less about winning. Or intangibles
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Some things just don’t make sense to me when people refer to them as overrated. A guy like DeRozan? You have never read five consecutive positive comments about DeMar DeRozan. He could have 68 points tonight. Hes still going to get criticized about playoff performances from years ago. If the consistent response to everything you do is to question the validity of whatever status the speaker thinks you have how can you be overrated?
2-3 of us he people you mentioned get way too much hate to be generally overrated.
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[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy;14845515]Iverson is underrated if anything.
Big portion of fans today are stat nerds. They immediately see Iverson's FG% and write him off as a chucker....with minimal impact. :lol
Magic being THE most overrated player though is absurd. Whoever came up with this list couldn't care less about winning. Or intangibles[/QUOTE]
Iverson was a low efficient gunner rather you're a stat nerd or not
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[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14845517]Some things just don’t make sense to me when people refer to them as overrated. A guy like DeRozan? You have never read five consecutive positive comments about DeMar DeRozan. He could have 68 points tonight. Hes still going to get criticized about playoff performances from years ago. If the consistent response to everything you do is to question the validity of whatever status the speaker thinks you have how can you be overrated?
2-3 of us he people you mentioned get way too much hate to be generally overrated.[/QUOTE]
The sentiment comes from the fact his game falls off a cliff in the playoffs production wise.
I think a lot of it though comes down to reffing. In the regular season Derozan would get double digit FT averages in his prime. Basically superstar free throw allotment, but in the playoffs he gets nothing basically.
Ive never once seen derozan in a commercial or ad so his lack of corporate endorsement probably works against him when he faces the media darlings. Nobody is underrating his skill.
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Iverson criticism is almost exclusively a stat nerd thing. Well, not so much a nerd, but definitely an analytical type who is fighting about it on the Internet. If you could find a way to measure the percentage of a persons haters who can’t actually play basketball? I’d have to imagine he will be really high on the list of people who see the game as a collection of numbers.
i’m not 100% certain I’ve ever heard verbal Iverson hate. I’ve known people who liked him less than others but the kind of shit you see online? I’ve never known it to come from a person I can verify isnt artificial intelligence. Strictly an Internet “nerd” kind of thing.
perhaps it’s a demographic issue, but I have never personally known anybody who talks about Allen Iverson with the term is used on the Internet. Nor do I really see it from people in the game. He might well be the all-time percentage leader far is how much of his criticism comes from people who can’t play basketball and are dying to type numbers at you that nobody who plays basketball cares about.
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[QUOTE=tpols;14845519]The sentiment comes from the fact his game falls off a cliff in the playoffs production wise.
I think a lot of it though comes down to reffing. In the regular season Derozan would get double digit FT averages in his prime. Basically superstar free throw allotment, but in the playoffs he gets nothing basically.
Ive never once seen derozan in a commercial or ad so his lack of corporate endorsement probably works against him when he faces the media darlings. Nobody is underrating his skill.[/QUOTE]
what I’m saying is when the extreme majority of the basketball world says that how was he been overrated?
It’s like calling pissing yourself overrated.
It’s universally disliked.
Things have to be rated highly by people to be overrated don’t they?
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Iverson should be number one, Reggie, Isiah & Kobe belong too.
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No need one specific criteria. This guy just thinks all these guys are ranked too high on most all time lists or were viewed too highly in their primes
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[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14845524]Iverson criticism is almost exclusively a stat nerd thing. Well, not so much a nerd, but definitely an analytical type who is fighting about it on the Internet. If you could find a way to measure the percentage of a persons haters who can’t actually play basketball? I’d have to imagine he will be really high on the list of people who see the game as a collection of numbers.
i’m not 100% certain I’ve ever heard verbal Iverson hate. I’ve known people who liked him less than others but the kind of shit you see online? I’ve never known it to come from a person I can verify isnt artificial intelligence. Strictly an Internet “nerd” kind of thing.
perhaps it’s a demographic issue, but I have never personally known anybody who talks about Allen Iverson with the term is used on the Internet. Nor do I really see it from people in the game. He might will be the all-time percentage leader far is how much of his criticism comes from people who can’t play basketball and are dying to type numbers at you that nobody who plays basketball cares about.[/QUOTE]
analytics weren't a thing in '96 and he was still a low iq, low efficiency player anyway you want to look at it. I can play basketball. I can't imagine playing basketball like Iverson or The Bum though
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The overemphasis on analytics has caused guys like Kobe and Iverson to become underrated imo