The Athletics 100 GOAT Players List

I know we LOVE list. This list was done way back in November of the year 2024. I don't remember seeing a thread for it so, here you go. And this is how the got the order ...

• Was he the best player in the league? Did anyone, at any point, suggest that he might be the best player in the league?
• Did he win MVP? Did he factor heavily in MVP races?
• Was he the best player in the league at his position?
• Was he ever voted First Team All-NBA? What about Second Team?
• How many All-NBA–caliber seasons did he have?
• Was he the best player on his team?
• If he wasn’t the best player on his team, was he at least the second-best player on a team with a clear all-time great as the best player?
• Was he ever the best player on a champion? Is it likely that this player could be the best player on a championship team?
• Did he have a major impact on the postseason, beyond just lucking into being on the same team as Magic Johnson or LeBron James? Did he have a greater impact on games played at the highest level?
• Was he good enough to be an impact player past his prime or was his career over at 30?
• How many All-Star–caliber seasons did he have?
• Was he a fixture on the All-Star team? And, um, not because of fan voting?
• Do players with similar advanced stats get consideration in the top 100?
• Is there any evidence that he was significantly better or worse than his stats?
• Is there evidence that he was significantly better or worse than contemporaries voted in awards?

• First Team All-NBA: 10 points each
• Second Team All-NBA: 3 points each
• Third Team All-NBA: 1 point each
• First Team All-ABA: 5 points each

MVP vote shares: 50 points for each 1.0
Finals MVP: 10 points
All-Star team: 1 point
Career win shares above 100: 1 point
Career BPM above 2.0: 7.5 points per point

RANK PLAYER GOAT POINTS

1 LeBron James 857.3
2 Michael Jordan 750.2
3 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 660.1
4 Tim Duncan 504.2
5 Karl Malone 503.6
6 Wilt Chamberlain 499.0
7 Larry Bird 487.7
8 Magic Johnson 486.6
9 Bill Russell 471.5
10 Shaquille O'Neal 459.6
11 Kobe Bryant 457.1
12 Kevin Durant 373.7
13 James Harden 356.2
14 Oscar Robertson 344.5
15 David Robinson 335.1
16 Kevin Garnett 324.1
17 George Mikan 320.0
18 Bob Pettit 317.5
19 Hakeem Olajuwon 316.0
20 Jerry West 315.5
21 Nikola Jokić 307.9
22 Giannis Antetokounmpo 307.1
23 Chris Paul 305.2
24 Charles Barkley 305.0
25 Dirk Nowitzki 297.1
26 Moses Malone 286.0
27 Steph Curry 268.0
28 Julius Erving 230.5
29 Steve Nash 218.7
30 John Stockton 204.2
31 Elgin Baylor 202.5
32 Bob Cousy 196.5
33 Dolph Schayes 184.5
34 Joel Embiid 181.5
35 Dwight Howard 161.0
36 Kawhi Leonard 160.3
37 Jason Kidd 159.6
38 Rick Barry 152.8
39 Russell Westbrook 150.9
40 Patrick Ewing 141.8
41 Gary Payton 140.5
42 Allen Iverson 140.0
43 John Havlicek 138.5
44 Dwyane Wade 138.4
45 Luka Dončić 133.5
46 Clyde Drexler 129.7
47 Anthony Davis 129.1
48 George Gervin 123.8
49 Scottie Pippen 120.7
50 Tracy McGrady 107.0
51 Willis Reed 106.5
52 Elvin Hayes 102.0
53 Dominique Wilkins 99.4
54 Joe Fulks 98.0
55 Bob McAdoo 94.2
56 Paul Pierce 93.6
57 Reggie Miller 93.3
58 Dave Cowens 89.0
59 Paul Arizin 87.0
60 Walt Frazier 83.5
61 Damian Lillard 83.1
62 Hal Greer 82.0
63 Wes Unseld 76.8
64 Robert Parish 75.0
65 Isiah Thomas 74.8
66 Sidney Moncrief 74.5
67 Billy Cunningham 73.0
68 Alonzo Mourning 71.5
69 Connie Hawkins 71.1
70 Ray Allen 70.9
71 Chauncey Billups 70.0
72 Pau Gasol 70.0
73 Bill Sharman 69.5
74 Bob Lanier 68.6
75 Bill Walton 67.3
76 Tiny Archibald 67.0
77 Mel Daniels 66.6
78 Chris Webber 65.7
79 Artis Gilmore 65.4
80 Adrian Dantley 64.3
81 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 64.3
82 Jayson Tatum 63.0
83 Spencer Haywood 62.0
84 Grant Hill 61.5
85 Derrick Rose 59.5
86 Paul George 59.3
87 Bernard King 58.0
88 Tony Parker 57.0
89 Bob Davies 57.0
90 Jimmy Butler 50.5
91 Carmelo Anthony 50.0
92 Dave Bing 50.0
93 Vince Carter 49.5
94 Neil Johnston 49.0
95 Kevin McHale 48.8
96 Tim Hardaway Sr. 48.3
97 Jerry Lucas 48.0
98 Blake Griffin 48.0
99 Paul Westphal 44.0
100 Penny Hardaway 43.8

A few original Top 50 guys didn't make the list. Pistol Pete, Lenny Wilkens, Earl Monroe, James Worthy, Dave DeBusschere, Nate Thurmond and Sam Jones. Also, surprisingly no Alex English.

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Might actually be the worst list I’ve ever seen which is saying something.

[QUOTE=RRR3;14967624]Might actually be the worst list I’ve ever seen which is saying something.[/QUOTE]
I'm trying to determine which the worst one is, I can't quite decide between Karl Malone at 5 or Steph at 27.

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14967625]I'm trying to determine which the worst one is, I can't quite decide between Karl Malone at 5 or Steph at 27.[/QUOTE]
As a Heat fan, Wade at 44 is pretty crazy too.

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14967625]I'm trying to determine which the worst one is, I can't quite decide between Karl Malone at 5 or Steph at 27.[/QUOTE]

Malone is closer to 5 than Stephen is to 27.

[QUOTE=RRR3;14967626]As a Heat fan, Wade at 44 is pretty crazy too.[/QUOTE]

Isiah Thomas at 65 is worse.

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle;14967629]Isiah Thomas at 65 is worse.[/QUOTE]

Overrated

LeBron's the only one they got right.

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle;14967628]Malone is closer to 5 than Stephen is to 27.[/QUOTE]
I mean technically I guess that's true if you have Malone at 20 and Curry at 10 or something like that (which is around where most people have each of them I think)

Damn, they love Malone.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14967630]Overrated[/QUOTE]

Not 65 overrated tho ...

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1. LeBron James [/QUOTE]


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13. James Harden [/QUOTE]


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LeBron as the GOAT, I'm fine with.
But the Sainted Magic Johnson needs to be in the Top 5.

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It's not even a real list if it's based off on some weird metrics. Might as well just list their PER and be done with it.

Trash list, but I think i have seen worse.

-Smak