Another prominent democrat cozying up with Orange Face, this time Big Gretch

[B]AP NEWS | Whitmer risks backlash from Democrats as she embraces Trump in Michigan[/B]

[url]https://apnews.com/article/trump-gretchen-whitmer-selfridge-new-air-mission-e701e6067f538849ca40fd61468b0b3c[/url]

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Glad to see our uniter in chief bringing the two parties together.

I guess he's not Hitler after all. Either that or the democrats have some explaining to do. Wasn't long ago they were bigging up this broad hard.

Gretchen Whitmer put on a political masterclass yesterday. She created thousands of jobs to strengthen the economy and then made Trump to come to Michigan to thank her for it.

I know all you really care about is owning libs. The fact that you're just posing this as a win for Trump/loss for libs and ignoring that it might also be a classy move by Whitmer for the betterment of her constituents tells us this.

I guess in a perfect world for you, Democrats and Republicans should always be at each other's throats without any willingness to give an inch or reach common ground?

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14998701]I know all you really care about is owning libs. The fact that you're just posing this as a win for Trump/loss for libs and ignoring that it might also be a classy move by Whitmer for the betterment of her constituents tells us this.

I guess in a perfect world for you, Democrats and Republicans should always be at each other's throats without any willingness to give an inch or reach common ground?[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;wIiiD-ffxcg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIiiD-ffxcg&ab_channel=JeffreyWinter[/video]

Big Gretch?

NO NO NO NO NO NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!


NOT YOU BIG GRETCH!!!!

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please Big Gretch, anyone but you.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14998701]I know all you really care about is owning libs. The fact that you're just posing this as a win for Trump/loss for libs and ignoring that it might also be a classy move by Whitmer for the betterment of her constituents tells us this.

I guess in a perfect world for you, Democrats and Republicans should always be at each other's throats without any willingness to give an inch or reach common ground?[/QUOTE]

It's definitely a classy move from Whitmer. She's a soulless puppet obviously, but clearly she sees which way the wind is blowing and is trying to cozy up to the winning side. Whether that side is the right, the middle... whatever. Unity is great for the country whether it's genuine or even if the politicians are just playing pretend.

I'm thrilled that Trump can unite the parties. Your beef isn't with me, it's with the other posters in this thread who think Trump is Hitler. They are the ones who would rather watch it all burn down then admit they were wrong.

Every time a democrat embraces Trump or humanizes Trump, the board libs die a little on the inside. It exposes them as the frauds and phonies that they are. Just look at how mad Off The Court is. The guy is clearly fuming. I'm sure if we dig back far enough we can find examples of the board libs propping Whitmer up as a future presidential nominee, but they wouldn't dare do that now. She embraced Hitler.

[QUOTE=Baller234;14999154]It's definitely a classy move from Whitmer. She's a soulless puppet obviously, but clearly she sees which way the wind is blowing and is trying to cozy up to the winning side. Whether that side is the right, the middle... whatever. Unity is great for the country whether it's genuine or even if the politicians are just playing pretend.

I'm thrilled that Trump can unite the parties. Your beef isn't with me, it's with the other posters in this thread who think Trump is Hitler. They are the ones who would rather watch it all burn down then admit they were wrong.

Every time a democrat embraces Trump or humanizes Trump, the board libs die a little on the inside. It exposes them as the frauds and phonies that they are. Just look at how mad Off The Court is. The guy is clearly fuming. I'm sure if we dig back far enough we can find examples of the board libs propping Whitmer up as a future presidential nominee, but they wouldn't dare do that now. She embraced Hitler.[/QUOTE]

I just don't get the way you've framing this so matter-of-factly. "Look at what Trump has done!". One could just as easily say that Trump is a notoriously petty and even vindictive person, and in order to remotely get anything from him you have to "cozy" up. And with that the argument could be made that it's not Trump heroically uniting the parties, but Whitmer deciding to be the bigger person for the greater good.

Are either of those sides I described the whole truth? Who knows but it doesn't really do anyone any good to be so clearly touting one end. Trump's staunchest supporters treating him like he's a god IS part of the problem. It completely prevents honest discourse.

Not that most people are looking for that here.

"BUT LIBS TOO!" Yea..I know.

Thats funny because of how classless she acted in the election lead up

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14999242]I just don't get the way you've framing this so matter-of-factly. "Look at what Trump has done!". One could just as easily say that Trump is a notoriously petty and even vindictive person, and in order to remotely get anything from him you have to "cozy" up. And with that the argument could be made that it's not Trump heroically uniting the parties, but Whitmer deciding to be the bigger person for the greater good.

Are either of those sides I described the whole truth? Who knows but it doesn't really do anyone any good to be so clearly touting one end. Trump's staunchest supporters treating him like he's a god IS part of the problem. It completely prevents honest discourse.

Not that most people are looking for that here.

"BUT LIBS TOO!" Yea..I know.[/QUOTE]

Trump is petty and vindictive???

In 2020 during the initial Covid strain, Trump sent New York City a full navy hospital ship with 1,000 beds to help alleviate the burden on the local hospitals.

In totality the ship ended up treating only 179 patients because Governor Cuomo said it wasn't needed. Instead he forced nursing homes to accept the Covid patients which ended up killing [B]thousands[/B] of nursing home residents.

And why did he send Covid patients to nursing homes instead of the medical ship? Because the democrats were all in on making Trump the face of Covid and couldn't risk making it look like he did something positive.

So yea, the two sides aren't the same at all. You can pretend all you want.


Edit:

Oh yea how can I forget that time anarchists and violent criminals took over multiple city blocks in Seattle and declared their own autonomous zone that operated totally outside the law. When Trump offered to send in the national guard, the mayor of Seattle told him to go kick rocks and let the CHOP zone stand for three weeks.

:oldlol:

[QUOTE]"BUT LIBS TOO!" Yea..I know.[/QUOTE]

Already covered it. You're too far gone.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14999401]Already covered it. You're too far gone.[/QUOTE]

Not engaging in a conversation if you can’t be held up to your own standards is a GOAT level debate tactic.

You the MJ.

[QUOTE=warriorfan;14999425]Not engaging in a conversation if you can’t be held up to your own standards is a GOAT level debate tactic.

You the MJ.[/QUOTE]

I’m not really using any “tactics” dude. Do you spend more time than you’d like engaging when you know it’s going nowhere? I spend a fair amount of time checking ISH but I’m not about to go point by point needlessly.

I made my point, and called that there was going to be a whataboutism. There was immediately said whataboutism..so I’ll bow out. What’s the issue?

Want me waste time naming two examples of the Republican Party blocking positive democratic initiatives purely for political sparring purposes? Or do you want me to just say that the republican spirit is truly for good? 3 omnis or whatever.

What are we doing here.

Would totally do Big Gretch.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14999478]I’m not really using any “tactics” dude. Do you spend more time than you’d like engaging when you know it’s going nowhere? I spend a fair amount of time checking ISH but I’m not about to go point by point needlessly.

I made my point, and called that there was going to be a whataboutism. There was immediately said whataboutism..so I’ll bow out. What’s the issue?

[B]Want me waste time naming two examples of the Republican Party blocking positive democratic initiatives purely for political sparring purposes? [/B]Or do you want me to just say that the republican spirit is truly for good? 3 omnis or whatever.

What are we doing here.[/QUOTE]

Yes I do actually. I especially want you to find examples using Trump.

I would also like for you to find an example that's even remotely comparable to what Cuomo did during Covid.

[QUOTE=Baller234;14999618]Yes I do actually. I especially want you to find examples using Trump.

I would also like for you to find an example that's even remotely comparable to what Cuomo did during Covid.[/QUOTE]

Okay, I get it. There's no ego with Trump, and certainly no petty or vindictive actions have been taken. He's notoriously graceful to those who speak out against him and his policies.

Since you've already flipped the conversation to something that it wasn't initially about at all and it's a slow day at work, I'll bite. The Cuomo thing..what exactly did he do to Trump? Isn't he the one that publicly [I]requested[/I] the ship? And then didn't he publicly give praise to Trump when the request was granted? The ship also wasn't equipped to treat Covid patients...

Am I missing part of the story? I remembered it happened but it was fuzzy, and after doing a little research it doesn't appear that there was any sort of animosity exchanged.