Long term SG solution must be addressed

Per this rumor site, Bulls will most likely get rid of Watson and possibly Brewer and they likely let Asik go.....
In the meantime their biggest need, the SG position has not been addressed.
Rip Hamilton was ok...when he was playing, the problem was, he was always hurt and he is getting older by the minute.
They must get the top SG that will suit their style.
Courtney Lee is a very good 2-way player who can hit his open perimter shot at the same time play very good defense. Why not involve him in a sign and trade with Asik, Watson etc?
Another option is OJ Mayo.
A reliable shooting guard who can shoot and at the same time provide good defense for ATLEAST 34 MINUTES!!
They can't affort to let these guys sign somewhere else.
Korver can shoot but can't defend. Brewer can defend but can't shoot.
No more one dimentional players, PLEASE.

Agreed. I would be very happy with either one of the players you've mentioned.

I'd be happier with OJ Mayo though because he is a better ball handler and can create better for himself as well as others.

We should try to get Lee as part of a deal with Asik if we can't get Mayo.

But first priority should be to try to get Mayo.

I'd offer Korver and Watson in a deal for Mayo.

Mayo would really be the long term solution here at SG and would grow nicely in the backcourt with DRose.

Memphis could use an upgrade at backup PG and can also use some permitter shooting. Two needs that would be met with the additions of Watson and Korver.

We don't know what deals are front office are working on or what they're doing or not doing, but I just hope they're very active and exploring all opportunities to help this team improve.

[QUOTE=ljsbb27]Agreed. I would be very happy with either one of the players you've mentioned.

[B]I'd be happier with OJ Mayo though because he is a better ball handler and can create better for himself as well as others.[/B]

We should try to get Lee as part of a deal with Asik if we can't get Mayo.

But first priority should be to try to get Mayo.

I'd offer Korver and Watson in a deal for Mayo.

Mayo would really be the long term solution here at SG and would grow nicely in the backcourt with DRose.

Memphis could use an upgrade at backup PG and can also use some permitter shooting. Two needs that would be met with the additions of Watson and Korver.

We don't know what deals are front office are working on or what they're doing or not doing, but I just hope they're very active and exploring all opportunities to help this team improve.[/QUOTE]

I don't disagree about your sentiment about Mayo but I really think Lee is a much better defender. He is not a Trevor Ariza type who will steal/intercept the ball but his main strength is ability to stay in front of his man like Kirk used to do. Both guys will be major upgrades bec of their youth.

I feel Mayo would be the best option. Has potential, can kinda create his own shot and play defense. However, I have a feeling he'll get overpaid by someone somewhere else.

I feel Courtney Lee is over rated on this forum. I don't like OJ, but I think he's the type of player we need.

Either way, I'll be disappointed if we fail to properly fill this gap 4th year in a row.

OJ Mayo would be a great fit to help out Rose whenever he comes back. Demote Hamilton to 6th man. He's lost his step a little too much to be a starter.

Its sad that 2 years later, we are still looking for a solution to this fukking huge problem.

How would the finances work out in trying to bring in OJ Mayo?
Update: Mayo just signed with Dallas. Rumor in the $8-10 mil range. Chicago wouldn't pay nearly that much.

[QUOTE=Letswin]How would the finances work out in trying to bring in OJ Mayo?[/QUOTE]

Depends on how we do it: if we sign him outright without matching Asik, we would be able to offer him the full mid-level exception up to $5 million/year. If we match Asik we would be over the tax threshold, and would only be able to offer him the mini-exception of $3 million/year. However, we would only have that available if Hinrich comes over in a S&T from the Hawks.

They could also work out a S&T with Memphis for Mayo to get him more $$. That way we wouldn

In 2013-14, the combined salaries of the Bulls' top four players (Deng, Derrick Rose, Carlos Boozer and Joakim Noah) add up to $57.4 million. If the luxury tax level stays the same, that leaves the Bulls with less than $13 million to fill out at least nine other roster spots. That's going to be incredibly difficult, especially considering Rose's injury will likely linger all of next season. Jerry Reinsdorf insists they not to go over the luxury tax.

Do you think the Bulls Management has been doing a good job considering what they are getting for their money?

Deng - Has too high a contract period. Last year he played better, but in previous years, he just disappeared at times.

Boozer - Way too high a contract. he is the first post player we have had in a long time, but consider Spenser Hawes a respectable post player signed for $6.5-7 mil per season.

Noah - If you consider him and Asik for the same minutes per game their stats are about the same, but Asik reduces the opponents scoring by about 8 points per game.

Rose - Even as good a player as he is, $16 mil per season is high considering the financial restraints of each NBA team.

The problem is GREED. If it isn't the player's greet, it's the agents greed. They are only interested in getting the maximum cut they can. If players were really interested in winning, they would thke less so sufficient money would be available to sign a good supporting cast.

[QUOTE=Letswin]
The problem is GREED. If it isn't the player's greet, it's the agents greed. They are only interested in getting the maximum cut they can. If players were really interested in winning, they would thke less so sufficient money would be available to sign a good supporting cast.[/QUOTE]

You're absolutley right most players are looking to get the most they can. You can't blame them totally, but some of these contract amounts are too high. Many players in the NBA and in sports in general are over paid and as a result, it forces a teams front office too make more money saving moves for the team than should be needed.

A solution to the financial mess all the NBA teams are in, would be to assess a luxury tax on any contract over $10 mil per year. The tax should be 2.5 times the amount over $10 mil.

[QUOTE=Letswin]A solution to the financial mess all the NBA teams are in, would be to assess a luxury tax on any contract over $10 mil per year. The tax should be 2.5 times the amount over $10 mil.[/QUOTE]

The players union would never agree to that...ever. Part of it is agents, part of it is player greed, but a bigger part is idiot GMs handing out contracts to players that haven't earned it. Then someone comes along who does deserve the money and they try to use the previous bad contract as a basis for theirs. Overspending simply for the sake of spending money (Rashard Lewis, Boozer, Ben Gordon, Turkoglu, Joe Johnson...among others) hurts every team and every player because it widens the gap between the two sides before negotiations even begin.

Also, if Boozer isn't traded before the 13/14 season, he will most certainly be amnestied. They won't keep him around and risk losing Taj.

And now Lee might be gone...

Good. Lee is not a long term solution for this team. The last thing I want to see is tying up more money in a Boozer-like solution(over-hyped by fans, but in all actuality, doesn't fit this team, despite the fans begging and pleading.)

Sounds like he wants a lot of money, in that case I agree with you.

Courtney Lee is a career 10ppg scorer. The Bulls need a SG that score, defend, and play some PG.

Lee wouldn't have fit in anyway.

If Lee wants a lot of money then we can't and shouldn't overpay because it wouldn't be worth it.

Brandon Rush. Shannon Brown. Delonte West. Top of my list at the moment from what's left.

Second tier in my opinion from guys left:

Chris Douglas-Roberts- Terrence Williams- Martell Webster-
Josh Howard- Michael Redd

I'd rather give minutes to a project player. If they pan out, keep them, if they don't, run plays to pad stats, up value, and trade them away. Select a player wisely.

Right now, NOBODY is on the table that is enticing. No use wasting money on band-aids that don't stick.

[QUOTE=Crystallas]I'd rather give minutes to a project player. If they pan out, keep them, if they don't, run plays to pad stats, up value, and trade them away. Select a player wisely.

Right now, NOBODY is on the table that is enticing. No use wasting money on band-aids that don't stick.[/QUOTE]

You can only give minutes to a project player if they have a high upside...which player available has a high enough upside where it would make sense to give them minutes over a proven veteran such as Redd or Howard? On a minimum contract, it makes more sense to see if you can catch lightning in a bottle with either of those two guys than hoping a young nobody can figure something out.

Shannon Brown resigned with the Suns so we could cross him off the list of possibilities.

At this point my top choice would be Brandon Rush and Marco Belinelli.

As second choice I'd want Terrence Williams and Martell Webster.

I'd also welcome Chris Douglas-Roberts, Michael Redd, or Josh Howard.

With ronnie and korver out, why didn't we try to get shannon brown, he can shoot the 3, play solid defense and I think he would thrive in thibs system and most importantly he's cheap at 7 mil / 2 years. I don't get it.

Post above you. It was there for over an hour before you replied.

[QUOTE=Crystallas]Post above you. It was there for over an hour before you replied.[/QUOTE]
He's saying why didn't we try to get him before he signed.

[QUOTE=Tenchi Ryu]He's saying why didn't we try to get him before he signed.[/QUOTE]

We did try to get him. :confusedshrug:

Human beings aren't cell phone apps, where you can just download the ones yo want. It has to be mutual, they have to want to come here too. Lee doesn't want to come here.

[QUOTE=Crystallas]We did try to get him. :confusedshrug:

Human beings aren't cell phone apps, where you can just download the ones yo want. It has to be mutual, they have to want to come here too. Lee doesn't want to come here.[/QUOTE]
No need to tell me, I understand completely. I wish some of our fellow Bulls family would realize, that with a injured Rose who is likely out for the season, Chicago is just not really looking attractive to anyone. People getting mad we're not seeing results, but its not like we have anything to GET huge results.

We are just gonna have to be patient, plan and simple. If/When we make our moves, it will be the season after next when both Deng AND Boozer's contracts expire. Until then, time to weather the storm and help grow Butler and Teague.

If anyone is looking for anything positive, you should really pay attention to Jimmy. Many expected him to improve, but his improvement is beyond many's expectations right now. He is just straight up BALLIN.

Malcolm Thomas has looked very good too.

The bulls should try to sign E'Twaun Moore as soon as he is waived by Houston. Hopefully they will waive him since they have about 23 players on their roster. He looked good scoring 25 points against the bulls. He is the athletic SG we could use.

What has happened with the bulls pursuing E'Twaun Moore?

[QUOTE=Letswin]What has happened with the bulls pursuing E'Twaun Moore?[/QUOTE]

He's playing the market. We can't pay him much, and he thinks someone might pay him more than a minimum. We'll find out by... Wednesday, as my best guess.

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Wow, New York Daily News spreading rumors. Even the Trib and Sun-Times don't have that scoop.


Rip isn't on the block. His contract expires after this season, along with most of the team. The Bulls only trade, will be for someone else's quasi-bird rights in another expiring contract.

Even as much as most fans want to see it happen, Boozer won't be traded.