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What do the Lakers need to do in Game 7
OK...we did have a good game 1 because we won etc, but what can the Lakers improve on? I know the Celtics will be coming out strong etc. and of we really want to take a hold on the series we need to take game 2.
I think defense on screen and rolls will be key. I hope the Lakers stay focus on defending this because this is what Rondo, Peirce, and KG will be doing game.
Keep up the intensity. The Celtics lead by Robinson and Wallace cut a 20 point lead to 9 in the 4th. The Lakers can not let up for one second on this Celtic team they are too good for that.
Rebounds Rebounds Rebounds...the team that wins this match up will win each game mark my words Lakers need to keep this up and carry on to game 2.
Our bench play....Lamar, Farmar, Brown, and Sasha need to contribute big in game 2. We need these guys to come in and play big minutes if we want to defend home court.
If you guys have anything to add please do.
Go Lakes!!!!
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good thoughts..
pace. i'd like to see the lakers use their speed advantage a little more, not saying take a page from d'antonis playbook but the lakers have a clear advantage in team speed and i think pushing the pace will have a positive effect and create some easier baskets
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A lot of it is just hoping for more of the same. I really liked that Farmar and Brown made a few quick moves to the basketball. Love to see more attacking the inside like that from them opposed to jacking up long jumpers.
I also didn't like how we kind've fell asleep at the beginning of the 4th. Up 20, there's just no excuse to give the Celtics any hope in that situation. It felt like we started to settle for some tough jumpers and the effort on defense seemed to dip as well. Can't have that, we know what happened in Game 4 just two years ago against this same team.
One thing I noticed also was that Pierce played Kobe fairly well throughout the game. I feel that when the games are close and Pierce starts checking Kobe during crunch time, we should start running Kobe/Gasol P&Rs. That forces other defenders to step up and can free up the rest of our guys when the defense collapses.
Other than that, there's not much to same. Just more of the same effort and intensity and hopefully we'll head to Boston with a 2-0 lead. :cheers:
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Bait KP (Perkins) to get another technical foul with DJMbenga...so KP can sit out for 48 mins on game3 :) I know ...i know...who cares...the Celtics would do it anyway to the Lakers without mercy...so why not?
Bait Rasheed to get another Technical Foul and another one after that if possible...so he sit out on game 4 or 5. I know...i know...this is Lakers vs Celtics no mercy game so again who cares...would you be surprised if Celtics use these tactics on your team if they know you are volatile and easily agigated?
Top Technical Fouls Leader
1 Kendrick Perkins Bos 18 25.4 66 3.7 1 [B]6 [/B] 1
2 Rasheed Wallace Bos 18 15.8 59 3.3 0 [B]5 [/B] 0
3 Matt Barnes Orl 14 23.3 28 2.0 0 4 0
4 Kevin Garnett Bos 17 34.0 49 2.9 0 [B]4[/B] 1
5 Dwight Howard Orl 14 35.5 59 4.2 1 4 0
[url]http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/sortableStats?league=NBA&table=fouls&stat=technicalFouls&dir=descending&low=1&high=50&showPlayers=min&position=all&seasonState=playoffs[/url]
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More of the same! The Lakers played a pretty clean game. They dominated the boards, second chance points, took advantage of Boston turnovers and got easy buckets off them, got the rim at will, moved the ball extremely well, and out muscled them.
We surprised Boston in the first game, they didnt expect us to play as hard, fast, and physical as we did. They were stunned after taking a couple of good blows, but the bell rang and we'll see a more focused, harder playing Boston team next game. Rondo look like someone stole his girlfriend in the second half and Allen was saddled with foul trouble all game. KG struggled. They have a LOT of room for improvement in game two.
Keys for game two:
1. Pau has to win the battle with KG again.
2. Bynum needs to play 20-25 min.
3. Expect Boston to pack the paint a little more. I think they are going to dare us to beat them with open long jumpers. The Lakers need to stay patient, move the ball crisply and continue cutting to the hole off the ball. Dont start chucking 3 balls!
4. Continue to dominate the boards.
5. Push the pace at the right times. the Celtics are turnover prone and we are better than them in the open court, take advantage of their miscues and push the pace.
6. Artest needs to stay out of foul trouble to take care of Pierce
HUGE game. 2-0 is even more important in a 2-3-2 series than in the traditional 2-2-1-1-1.
Lets get it on!
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good thing is that lakers know that they haven't accomplished anything by taking game 1
let's see what the Celtics need to win Game 2 and work against it
expect Boston to come out with intensity and several adjustments
they will fight for rebounds (damaged in game1)
they will go for Pierce and they will try to free him from Artes.
same effort in game 1 is not enough to get same result. focus focus
Lakers stepped it up during the playoffs and now this is the home
stretch. they can’t take their foot off the gas
[B][I][SIZE="2"]remain like a 2010 toyota camry with a stuck gas pedal[/SIZE][/I][/B]
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thank goodness someone finally wrote a pragmatic post about the finals series for the lakers... well done crisoner..it just proves to me that you can never retire!
my biggest concern is that lakers get caught up in the euphoria of fools like JA Andande (flip flopped on his pick) and loose focus.
personally, i think the only thing that could have been improved was the pace. there were times when they got out of control and did not manipulate the pace/clock the way they should have... but honestly, it is a nit. they played the perfect game against the celtics and used everything they had to their advantaged and exploited everything that the celtics did not have. there were very few times that i was upset with the lakers play.
ONE GAME AT A TIME!!!! ENJOY THE JOURNEY.
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Yeah I hope the team doesn't get complacent after one damn win...
Keep them off the boards and loose balls because you KNOW that doc rivers will have them motivated.
I want to see more from LO, he can definetly contribute more.
Other than that, more of the same, play tough and rebound.
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I think Fisher need to find more open spaces to take 3's.
But i must say that he guards rondo very well.
And i think artest need to do better job with pierce.
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I am watching the game 1 again right now....
Too much kobe ball....they need to run their offense
lo need to show up.....
They need up their aggression and rebound...rebound and rebound....
I also noticed that the lakers came up really sloppy in the 1st qtr...too many TO's. I know it was the 1st final game...but the lakers need to come out more strong
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The obvious thing to me is keep Lamar out of foul trouble and get him productive. Lots of guys had foul problems, but it really limited LO.
And I agree they can push the pace and run the C's legs off without just being a stupid quick shot team.
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I expect the gameplay to be completely different.
Quick hockey assists were the Lakers most effective inside play. Celtics help(double) defense closed in far too quickly on the triangles pivot point. And the 2nd help defender(weak-weakside) was non existent. Slashing Bynum, Odom or Pau feasted on easy layups from touch passes. Deflating the entire Celtics momentum from time to time. Celtics can adjust by moving slower to double the Lakers high-mid post. Seriously the Celtics do not give up easy layups.
For the most part the Celtics were in the game. Staying within 6-9 points throughout the game. Until the Lakers exploded to a 20 point buffer.
Lakers bigs must continue to draw fouls leading to free throws . Lakers big shoot above average ft% compared to most NBA bigs. Other than Odoms measley 66% avg. Gasols 78%(6.2 ftattempts playoff avg) and Bynums 65%(2.1 fta) are good. Bynum avg'd 74% during the regular season. The Lakers could pad the points at the stripe.
Rondo shoots a crappy 67% with impact 5.6 free throw attempts. Perkins continues the craptastic free throw parade with 58% ft avg on 2.4 fta. Garnett shoots an excellent 81% with a lowly 2.1 attempts. Garnett and the celtics could use more fta. Also don't expect to see Garnett brick 3 layups. I don't think the big ticket has bricked 3 gimmes since 3rd grade. Whatever. i prefer more of the old ticket.
Sidenote: Lakers are -5.5(line has not moved) Over/under is 191.
LaLaLand prediction: Under 191. Lakers by 3. 93-96.
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I think Boston will do a better job of spacing the floor so that Rondo can be more effective driving to the hoop and either isolate Fisher//Kobe/? or kick out to the open man if the Lakers give help. I don't think they did this to their advantage in Game 1. That made it too easy for the Lakers to give help without paying the price.
I also saw many times when the mismatch was created and somehow Boston failed to exploit it. I expect that to change so the Lakers have to be careful to limit that. Work on their pick-n-roll (which has improved in general) defense because it wasn't consistently good in Game 1.
I didn't watch LO that closely to see why he may have struggled, but he needs to figure out a way to get his, especially when more of the 2nd unit is on the floor.
In one sense, Boston has an advantage in that they will have made adjustments to counter what the Lakers did in Game 1 and the Lakers won't know exactly what it will be until it happens. Then we will have to break it down and adjust to their adjustments on the fly.
I felt the keys to our Game 1 victory were:
- attacking in the paint
- Bynum making the most of his minutes
- defensive intensity
Keep doing these things.
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Less Kobe ball. They stopped running the triangle in the second half. Kobe was not getting his shots while playing within the offense. He was setting up at the top of the key and pick and rolling Ray Allen to death.
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I expect the Celtics to be more physical today and to just play better on the offensive end. Lakers have to make sure they do not let up on the defensive end. That is where the game will be won today imo. As long as the Lakers can match the defensive intensity of the Celtics, I think we should be alright. I was pretty sure the Lakers were going to win game 1 but game 2? I have no idea which side to lean. I just have a really odd feeling about it today for some reason (it is more nervous than bad feeling). As hyped up as I am today, this game today will be mad tough to win.
Lakers have to put everything they have on the line. Do that and the outcome will be positive. :rockon:
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I noticed that when Kobe was guarding Rondo in the game, Kobe was trying to help out, which is always good on defense. But sometimes Kobe should have let Pau/Odom/Bynum handle the Celtics Bigs one on one. It wasn't just Kobe a few Laker players lost track of Rondo and he had some easy baskets.
The Lakers should also focus keeping their composure. The Celtics are going to come at them hard, so the Lakers have to keep cool. Play smart basketball. The Celtics are bullies. I hate saying that because I am a huge KG fan, but they are bullies. So the Lakers have to play smart ball. Attack and don't get caught up in all of the drama that the Celtics are trying to create.
Good luck, Lakers. Do this for the Western Conference!!!!:cheers:
Timberwolves fan
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[QUOTE=EllEffEll]I think Boston will do a better job of spacing the floor so that Rondo can be more effective driving to the hoop and either isolate Fisher//Kobe/? or kick out to the open man if the Lakers give help. I don't think they did this to their advantage in Game 1. That made it too easy for the Lakers to give help without paying the price.
I also saw many times when the mismatch was created and somehow Boston failed to exploit it. I expect that to change so the Lakers have to be careful to limit that. Work on their pick-n-roll (which has improved in general) defense because it wasn't consistently good in Game 1.
I didn't watch LO that closely to see why he may have struggled, but he needs to figure out a way to get his, especially when more of the 2nd unit is on the floor.
In one sense, Boston has an advantage in that they will have made adjustments to counter what the Lakers did in Game 1 and the Lakers won't know exactly what it will be until it happens. Then we will have to break it down and adjust to their adjustments on the fly.
I felt the keys to our Game 1 victory were:
- attacking in the paint
- Bynum making the most of his minutes
- defensive intensity
Keep doing these things.[/QUOTE]
Rondo's boards killed us tonight, and the picks (several of them moving IMHO) that got Ray Allen so many uncontested wide open looks from downtown in the first half.
Officiating was tragically terrible for both sides.
SMFH on the OOB call late. Other weird calls too. Not a good day for the zebras.
Now we get the advantage of making the major adjustments for Game 3.
- Break down the picks/screens and the way they are being executed. Fix it.
- Keep that sawed off PG Rondo from getting 10+ rebounds. Inexcusable.
- Put out APB on Lamar Odom (6'10" male, candy addiction could be exploited to get him to surface)
- With Andrew giving us what he has been giving in this series, we should take advantage of it.
Not surprising to be 1-1. I expect this series to go back and fourth, but obviously the pressure is squarely on us to take at least one in Boston.
When someone takes a game on the road, the series officially begins. That day is at hand. Enjoy the ride.
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I think Odom is going to come up big for us in Boston mark my words. No reason to why I just feel it...he seems to show up at our darkest hour to say.
I like to say we need to stop making dumb fouls but geeeez did the refs do a number on both teams.
The series will come down to this....which team is more aggressive and makes the extra plays. And that was Rondo down the stretch. Really why doesn't anyone put a body on that lil f*ck. It's like he seems to be at the right place at the right time for those boards.
I hope Bynum can continue to have these type of games for us.
Kobe...what can I say out of sync but it;s hard to establish a rhythm when you are out most of the game. Kobe could not play...I would say dumb fouls but those are two huge bad calls he got. And I'm sorry taking out Kobe of the game is > anything the Celtics have. That being said the Lakers STILL played good enough to win. Loved how Sasha and Farmar made clutch shots...but we need the Mamba. I expect him to have a huge 3 games in Boston for us.
So I think we just need to feed the bigmen...keep our defense intensity at a high...be more aggressive then Boston...and get Perkins to commit a T...shoot I don't care let's use that to our advantage.
And note to Artest keep doing a great job on Paul...just make your open shots like game 1 please.
Last thing....better dee on Ray Allen...let's also attack him on defense more please.
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Even though I am a Knicks fan I absolutely hate the Celtics so I really want the Lakers to win this series. The Celtics do have the upper hand now, they have home court advantage, the confidence from beating the Lakers and it will be hard for the Lakers to win at least two (preferably three) games in Boston. Kobe needs to play better in order for them to win and Artest needs to hit those open jumpers. The main point is still rebounding and defense though. Game 3 will be incredibly important.
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Yes the Celts have homecourt to say but the Lakers can get that back or even it up with one win. The Celts have been poor at home and I know the Lakers can beat them 2 out of 3. For the most part I say the Lakers as a team have been playing better ball over the last two games. So no worries one game at a time game 3 will be a huge win for the Lakers.
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production from those not named Gasol/Bynum. The fact that we are getting such good production out of Bynum is a pleasant surprise... Odom not doing anything isn't necessarily surprising, but I figured he would give us a little bit of production being that we were at home. It's as simple as that tho... 5-22 on 3's isn't going to get it done either. That's why we lost to PHX those 2 games because we couldn't knock down a damn 3. Boston on the other hand was 11-16... Ray Allen is not going to have another game like that tho that we can be sure of. Pierce and Garnett will play better in Boston, but both haven't been able to do much of anything... they should hit their open shots but I still don't see them doing much else. they just look old and slow. As long was we continue to attack them inside, we should continue to cause problems and get to the line. The only way they are stopping us is to foul us.
We will win 1 in Boston... 2 would be fantastic.
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Better D on Ray and PP.
Odom needs to wake up and become aggressive.
Better transition D.
Better ball rotation on offense.
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[QUOTE=NY-Knicks]Even though I am a Knicks fan I absolutely hate the Celtics so I really want the Lakers to win this series. The Celtics do have the upper hand now, they have home court advantage, the confidence from beating the Lakers and [B]it will be hard for the Lakers to win at least two (preferably three) games in Boston.[/B] Kobe needs to play better in order for them to win and Artest needs to hit those open jumpers. The main point is still rebounding and defense though. Game 3 will be incredibly important.[/QUOTE]
Lakers don't need to win all 3 in Boston... they need to win 1 at least (preferable 2), and I am sure they will get that 1 win.
WHERE IS OUR BENCH? This frustrates me more than anything. Our starters outplayed the Celtics starters but our bench was absolute GARBAGE. I told a friend of mine before the series began that the games will probably come down to which bench plays better at the end of the day. Celtics bench is completely outplaying our bench in every major statistical category pretty much and playing with more energy/hustle on defense and offense. Either the bench has to pick it up a few notches or Phil has to play Kobe/Artest/Gasol for 40 minutes each, Bynum for 35 and Fisher for 35. The only way the latter works is if they are not all in foul-trouble.. With the way the first 2 games have been called, we won't be able to rely on them to put in 40 solid minutes..:banghead:
Lakers also need to involve the post a lot more. Gasol/Bynum have absolutely dominated KG/Perkins in first 2 games. WHY can't we involve them A LOT more? maybe split 14-15 shots between Gasol/Bynum each. I would rather juice something out that has worked very well so far instead of letting Kobe take garbage jumpshots.. We do NOT have to live and die by the long range 2pt jumpshots/3pt shots like the Suns. Lets really juice out the paint-game.
Phil should give Odom 2 minutes of playing time. IF he is playing like junk, bench him for the rest of the game. If he plays well in those 2 minutes, give him his normal minutes. Odom is usually consistently inconsistent. You can usually tell how he will be playing the entire game based on his first few minutes into the game. Phil should use that to calibrate how many minutes Odom should get or whether he should be benched. I am very disappointed in Odom this series.. he has not shown up at all.
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What do Lakers need to do in Game 3?
Answer: Remember game 1! haha
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[QUOTE=SoCalMike]What do Lakers need to do in Game 3?
Answer: Remember game 1! haha
:pimp:[/QUOTE]
true that!!!!!
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for game 3, I think here are the keys:
first, we need to protect the paint, not just from blocking the big man, but also do better on weak side help. from second chance points and those long rebounds that Rondo turns into easy lay ups, or doing the early pick and roll switch and closing out on shooters. Docs is mixing up some spacing by throwing different rotations, and as our rotations are different, we need to figure these things out.
we got to get Odom and Artest going, we need to get balls to them where they like it and make some plays for them just to get them going, also communicate better on the defense even when Kobe isn't on the court.
we need to secure those long rebounds, we need to stop their guards and forward to get the rebound, rebounding will be a team effort and not just from the big guys. We need to stop going for shots that creates long rebounds because that helps them to get in transition, where Rondo plays his best.
If we do well defensively, and make the proper adjustments, we will slow down the game, and let the big man get the ball where they want, something that was hard to do during a stretch in the fourth where Odom made that tricky high pass to Bynum and Bynum finished with all fundamental, or when Artest made that crucial turnover by trying to force the ball in Pau. KG has made his pick on not getting embarrassed defensively first before offense, so I can see him playing a bit more timid on the offensive end and conserve energy on the defense against Pau.
At last, the bench needs to step up, the bench needs to try and make plays, plays such as drawing an important offensive foul to save the momentum, controlling the tempo to our favor, or making the open 3's. Our bench helped us a lot in that game 1 to sustain some of the runs that Boston was trying to get going, we need that type of effort once more with how the game is being called.
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Despite SOME PEOPLE who are trying to keep important info off this site, i'll tell you that according to my NBA sources LO is dealing with some serious stuff that can't be discloseed on here.......just know that he's very distracted right now.......now they can keep deleting this but dude is going to keep playing like this and it's all going to come out anyways......so why stick heads in the sand and pretend.......and delete......what benefit is that?
I hope he can shake it off and help us to 3 more wins.....we gotta get this done!!!!!
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game three will show us the one who will emerge as champs... so im hanging on to LA to be tougher than their opponents....... whoever wins game 3 wins it all.... mental toughness and the belief that they can win is what is important.....
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[QUOTE=DKLaker]Despite SOME PEOPLE who are trying to keep important info off this site, i'll tell you that according to my NBA sources LO is dealing with some serious stuff that can't be discloseed on here.......just know that he's very distracted right now.......now they can keep deleting this but dude is going to keep playing like this and it's all going to come out anyways......so why stick heads in the sand and pretend.......and delete......what benefit is that?
I hope he can shake it off and help us to 3 more wins.....we gotta get this done!!!!![/QUOTE]
stop acting like a 12 year old "i've gotta secret"..... lol
the reason they get deleted is because you post the same thing over and over, you're like a broken effing record,, nobody cares.... i'm sick of getting e-mails and pm's complaing about you and your crappy posts
either put up or shut up.....
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Bynum's offense is our best defense because of how deep he gets in the paint, we're able to recover better on the defensive end. So more touches for Bynum. I'm thinking more of a two man offensive game between Kobe and Drew.
In this case, truly, our best defense is gonna come from getting quality offensive possessions in the paint. Kobe and Drew need to run game like Kobe and Shaq did in Kobe's first back-to-back championship.
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[QUOTE=kkinchen]Bynum's offense is our best defense because of how deep he gets in the paint, we're able to recover better on the defensive end. So more touches for Bynum. I'm thinking more of a two man offensive game between Kobe and Drew.
In this case, truly, our best defense is gonna come from getting quality offensive possessions in the paint. Kobe and Drew need to run game like Kobe and Shaq did in Kobe's first back-to-back championship.[/QUOTE]thanks for posting here instead of creating another thread on the same subject
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[QUOTE=gts]stop acting like a 12 year old "i've gotta secret"..... lol
the reason they get deleted is because you post the same thing over and over, you're like a broken effing record,, nobody cares.... i'm sick of getting e-mails and pm's complaing about you and your crappy posts
either put up or shut up.....[/QUOTE]
Wow.....that is extremely rude of you.....but I guess you think moderators are gods and can get away with it since You can delete whatever I write.
I'll PM you and you decide if it should be public!!!
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[QUOTE=DKLaker]Wow.....that is extremely rude of you.....but I guess you think moderators are gods and can get away with it since You can delete whatever I write.
I'll PM you and you decide if it should be public!!![/QUOTE]
it's not up to me to decide if it's for public consumption or not..
you missed the point, the point is this is what? the 6th seventh time you've posted i gotta odom secret? what purpose does that serve? say it once and be done with it.. nobody responded the first time the second time i got a crap load of e-mails and pms from folks complaing about it... i understand you have a secret that's so juicy you can't restrain yourself.. but seriously stop...lol
it's your deal whatever it may be, somebody told it to you in confidentiality it's not up to me to help you break that bond...
so please don't send it to me...
if you have to kiss and tell then do so but don't keep typing the same thing over and over again, it's boring and to be honest it's somewhat demeaning to you, you talk about about this and that, aau ball and your experiences and such but this is just juvenile i guess is the best word for it.
i would think you would be above this level of posting with all that you claim to be about...
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[QUOTE=gts]it's not up to me to decide if it's for public consumption or not..
you missed the point, the point is this is what? the 6th seventh time you've posted i gotta odom secret? what purpose does that serve? say it once and be done with it.. nobody responded the first time the second time i got a crap load of e-mails and pms from folks complaing about it... i understand you have a secret that's so juicy you can't restrain yourself.. but seriously stop...lol
it's your deal whatever it may be, somebody told it to you in confidentiality it's not up to me to help you break that bond...
so please don't send it to me...
if you have to kiss and tell then do so but don't keep typing the same thing over and over again, it's boring and to be honest it's somewhat demeaning to you, you talk about about this and that, aau ball and your experiences and such but this is just juvenile i guess is the best word for it.
i would think you would be above this level of posting with all that you claim to be about...[/QUOTE]
It's funny, it's not up to you to decide what's for public consumption? Aren't you the moderator? Don't you bash and delete threads daily? YES!!!!!
You are a very disrespectful person, if you acted with more class and not like an internet thug I wouldn't have a problem with you. I don't bash you for repeating anything.......I bet you bashed Artest signing 1000 times.....but so what, it's your opinion, I respected that even if I disagreed with it and now you admit you were wrong about it........I do respect that from you.
I don't feel it is a moderators place to try to bully people, insult or attempt to embarass like a Mall Cop with pretend power. I respect the opinions of others wheteher I agree with them or not.....this is for the ENTIRE LAKERS Community. At a time like this a moderator should be trying to bring everyone together not push them apart. Regardless of anything we ALL want the exact same conclusion....A Lakers Championship......let's all focus on that and be good to eachother, celebrate together as one.
If someone created a post in early April saying that we wouldn't have to play Dallas, Denver, San Antonio, Orlando or Cleveland to win the championship, you guys would have insulted the person and closed the thread........it proves you just never know.
The Lakers community needs to be about inclusion...not trying to drive people out. Now.....do you want to continue the hate or can we all get along now?
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[QUOTE=DKLaker]It's funny, it's not up to you to decide what's for public consumption? Aren't you the moderator? Don't you bash and delete threads daily? YES!!!!![/QUOTE]
dk you really really missed the point, it's your secret, i deleted the pm without even opening it
it is not up to me to decide what was told to you in cofidence is for public consumption, i'm not going to make a judgement call on someone's private life... even if it is a public figure...
deleting posts or dicussing hoops or knocking around trolls is so far different than what you're asking me to decide i'm amazed you don't see the difference...
ask the community, am i wrong on this?
any of you posters, if somebody told you a secret about say phil jackson would you come here and ask a mod to post it for you?
[QUOTE]if you acted with more class and not like an internet thug[/QUOTE]
as for the e-thug thing.. you're the only one who says that about us and you're also the only one banned for sending threatening pm's to other members of ISH
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[QUOTE=gts]dk you really really missed the point, it's your secret, i deleted the pm without even opening it
it is not up to me to decide what was told to you in cofidence is for public consumption, i'm not going to make a judgement call on someone's private life... even if it is a public figure...
deleting posts or dicussing hoops or knocking around trolls is so far different than what you're asking me to decide i'm amazed you don't see the difference...
ask the community, am i wrong on this?
any of you posters, if somebody told you a secret about say phil jackson would you come here and ask a mod to post it for you?
as for the e-thug thing.. you're the only one who says that about us and you're also the only one banned for sending threatening pm's to other members of ISH[/QUOTE]
1. I never asked you to post it, I said I trusted you to NOT post it.
2. Obviously it has much to do about hoops because it's clearly effecting his play
3. It is a legal offense to libel me. I NEVER threatened anyone. I strongly suggest you never come up with that load of crap again or Jeff and I will have a nice conversation about it. Very childish move on your part.
If you want to discuss anything why not discuss abuse of so called power?
I clearly have tried to get you off your personal vendetta against me for the good of the Laker Community but still you insist. As a moderator you should understand, we are in the Finals....it's not about You, and sure the hell not about me either.
Please do not disrespect the Laker Fan community with pettyness.
Let's turn our focus to the Lakers!!!!!! Championship!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: What do the Lakers need to IMPROVE for game 3
ahh the war between you guys...
but i agree with gts here.....if you dont want to share the secret why are you bringing up every time somebody brings up LO's performance.....
its your secret....so keep it with u.....
Also please dont berate me here for having my own opinion here......cause i dont care and would not reply back to ur insults
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Re: What do the Lakers need to IMPROVE for game 2
The Lakers had a decent game. Despite being behind the entire game, our boys didn't give up. They battled their way back into the game. Taking the lead. Positioning themselves to win. But let it all slip away in the last 5 minutes. Lakers simply lost their championship composure. I attribute the loss to poor shot selection and bad play calling during the final 5 minutes. Our bigs kept us in the game by drawing countless fouls and getting to the line. Not only did they take a combined 25 fts, pau and bynum made 20. High impact attempts with an 80% success rate. And the strategy was worked to perfection up until crunch time. Why? I don't know. It was ridiculous. Seriously. Is it Phils fault? For not recognizing. Or Kobes fault for wanting the late game glory? Or are we locked into "Kobe Time". We should have continued going down low. Allowing Pau and Bynum to draw fouls. GTS tracked the Lakers offensive possesions in another thread. Gasol didn't take a single shot in the final 5:20. Bynum had two possesions lead to a missed shot and turnover before teh 4:30 mark. Then nothing.
Here is my quote prior to game 2 on page one of this thread, before it became a game 3 thread. Plenty of good ideas throughout the thread. All of which can be applied to Game 3.
[QUOTE=LakersLaLaLand]
Lakers bigs must continue to draw fouls leading to free throws . Lakers big shoot above average ft% compared to most NBA bigs. Other than Odoms measley 66% avg. Gasols 78%(6.2 ftattempts playoff avg) and Bynums 65%(2.1 fta) are good. Bynum avg'd 74% during the regular season. The Lakers could pad the points at the stripe.
Rondo shoots a crappy 67% with impact 5.6 free throw attempts. Perkins continues the craptastic free throw parade with 58% ft avg on 2.4 fta. Garnett shoots an excellent 81% with a lowly 2.1 attempts. Garnett and the celtics could use more fta. Also don't expect to see Garnett brick 3 layups. I don't think the big ticket has bricked 3 gimmes since 3rd grade. Whatever. i prefer more of the old ticket.
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Game 2 stats:
Bynum
6-10 fgs
[b]9-12 fts 75%[/b]
Gasol
7-10 fgs
[b]11-13 fts 85%[/b]
Incredible statlines. Most notably the ft attempts and makes. Cmon!!!! Milk this sucker!!!
I hope this is noticed by the coaching staff and applied throughout the series.
On another note, did you see the defensive adjustment the Celtics made in Game 2?
[quote]Quick hockey assists were the Lakers most effective inside play. Celtics help(double) defense closed in far too quickly on the triangles pivot point. And the 2nd help defender(weak-weakside) was non existent. Slashing Bynum, Odom or Pau feasted on easy layups from touch passes. Deflating the entire Celtics momentum from time to time. [b]Celtics can adjust by moving slower to double the Lakers high-mid post.[/b] Seriously the Celtics do not give up easy layups.[/quote]
They took it a step further. By NOT sending the double at all. They mostly played man to man vs Bynum and Pau. Which lead to one on one matchups. Followed by fouls and trips to the foul line.
We did have 2 hockey assist type plays. Far less than the 6 or 7 from game 1.
All good. Just noticed some things. Wanted to voice it out.
side note: i was completely wrong with my gambling predictions.
Game 3
over/under 193
Boston -3
No comment.
Although Im sad we lost. We played a respectable game. Showed heart playing from behind. It was winnable...which hurts.
The series still hasn't been as physical as I expected. But I fully expect Game 3 to be the most physical of any game played or not played.
Get together with some buddies and beers. Enjoy the game. :cheers:
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Re: What do the Lakers need to IMPROVE for game 3
[QUOTE=Lakers_Kobe_Fan]ahh the war between you guys...
but i agree with gts here.....if you dont want to share the secret why are you bringing up every time somebody brings up LO's performance.....
its your secret....so keep it with u.....
Also please dont berate me here for having my own opinion here......cause i dont care and would not reply back to ur insults[/QUOTE]
Berate YOU????? Why would I do that? I have very clearly stated that I respect everyones opinion and the right to give them....wow?
I just defended kkinchen because he's being mistreated and disrespected......and I didn't even agree with kkinchen's post, I just felt he had the right to his opinion......so don't try to make me thae bad guy here, I feel i've taken the high road.
My opinion is that instead of waiting or wondering what's going on with the guy LO, understand that it's a personal issue and nothing physical......you don't need to know what it is.......just what to expect. I mentioned it only 3 times, and I don't think there is a single person on ISH who hasn't said something more than 3 times......I feel trying to censor or tell people to shut up is not what an open forum is all about, and it's very disrespectful.
I'm not bashing you or anyone.....just saying that we all need to stop the negativity and personal gripes and focus on the big picture, I'm trying to bring everyone together. GTS and I have been battling for a long time.......it will likely continue in the future but NOW is clearly NOT the time for this stuff.
(I do not initiate any conflicts at all....but don't back down from bullies.)
I'll tell you and everyone.....keep giving your honest opinions but don't hate or put down others and i'm cool with you all......even if I completely disagree with you. dd24 knows that.
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Re: What do the Lakers need to IMPROVE for game 3
dklaker - that is your problem... you don't recognize that you are berating people with almost every single one of your posts. i have gotten many personal messages and emails to this effect.
99% of the people here treat each other with respect most of the time even when they disagree. your posts come across as arrogant, argumentative, and condescending.
the easiest way to fix it is to take this criticism to heart and try to treat people better - like how you expect to be treated. however, i don't think you will do that because you don't seem to know how/when to back down or ever admit that you are wrong.
don't blame the mods or anyone else for your behavior. take accountability and own it.
p.s. i can almost predict that your response will be inflammatory, and yes, one of the mods will likely delete your post or the entire thread... and yes, i will probably regret having responded to this.
:pimp: