Top 10 SFs in current NBA

Following this thread: [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100025"]Top 10 SGs in current NBA[/URL]

1. Lebron James: Indeed, LBJ has improved himself into the best SF in NBA at such a young age. No doubt his tremendous skills, body strength and leadership is the key for the success of Cavs or probably his future new teams.
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 31.5 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 8.7 apg

2. Ron Artest: Artest is one of the most underrated player in NBA, especially offensively. He can score 20+ ppg as the team's first option and defensively he's the best in current NBA. In a word, Artest deserves the No.2 SF in current league.
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 21.2 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 2.9 apg

3. Carmelo Anthony: Melo is probably the best scoring SF in current league, but the lack of defense and leadership ability make him embarrassed compared to LBJ. Anthony is still young and sky is the limit for his potential.
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 30.4 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 2.5 apg

4. Paul Pierce: Pierce eventually proved that he deserves a spot at top 5 SFs in current league and won the recent Final MVP. However, it's still not wise to say he's second only to LBJ due to the success of Boston Celtics last season.
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 20.5 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 6.0 apg

5. Shawn Marion: Marion is actually an SF, yes, and a Top 5 SF. Marion is the best rebounder among those SFs and his excellent outside defense was the key to the Suns' success in recent years. Look how terrible the Suns are w/o Marion.
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 19.6 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 2.1 apg

6. Caron Butler: Needless to say, Butler is the reason why the Wizards were able to make the play-off without Gilbert Arenas. Butler is able to score while his ability to pass and run the point is just outstanding as well. What a Point Forward!
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 22.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 6.7 apg

7. Rashard Lewis: Lewis has already proved how good he is as a Sonic. He's a decent shooter and the size advantage over smaller SFs makes him capable of scoring inside. Lewis is definitely the second best player in current Magic team.
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 20.9 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 3.2 apg

8. Richard Jefferson: Someone used to say RJ won't be this good without Kidd, but he's definitely okay playing without a PG. RJ was leading the Nets in scoring last year and the loss of Jefferson might lead the Nets to a lottery spot.
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 20.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 2.4 apg

9. Corey Maggette: Honestly, Maggette had been considerably underrated until he eventually managed to prove himself last season. He is able to penetrate and score inside while taking accurate jump shot. He's the hope for rebuilding Warriors.
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 24.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.0 apg

10. Josh Smith: Josh Smith is an SF indeed just like Shawn Marion and his ability to defend and rebound is almost as good as the latter. Smith is still young and now he has gained a chance to break out --- 2009 is his contract year!
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 19.2 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 1.5 apg

Other Candidates: Andre Kirilenko, Josh Howard, Gerald Wallace, Lamar Odom and Tayshaun Prince.

[quote=Kiddlovesnets]Following this thread: [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100025"]Top 10 SGs in current NBA[/URL]

1. Lebron James: Indeed, LBJ has improved himself into the best SF in NBA at such a young age. No doubt his tremendous skills, body strength and leadership is the key for the success of Cavs or probably his future new teams.
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 31.5 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 8.7 apg

2. Ron Artest: Artest is one of the most underrated player in NBA, especially offensively. He can score 20+ ppg as the team's first option and defensively he's the best in current NBA. In a word, Artest deserves the No.2 SF in current league.
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 21.2 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 2.9 apg

3. Carmelo Anthony: Melo is probably the best scoring SF in current league, but the lack of defense and leadership ability make him embarrassed compared to LBJ. Anthony is still young and sky is the limit for his potential.
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 30.4 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 2.5 apg

4. Paul Pierce: Pierce eventually proved that he deserves a spot at top 5 SFs in current league and won the recent Final MVP. However, it's still not wise to say he's second only to LBJ due to the success of Boston Celtics last season.
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 20.5 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 6.0 apg

5. Shawn Marion: Marion is actually an SF, yes, and a Top 5 SF. Marion is the best rebounder among those SFs and his excellent outside defense was the key to the Suns' success in recent years. Look how terrible the Suns are w/o Marion.
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 19.6 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 2.1 apg

6. Caron Butler: Needless to say, Butler is the reason why the Wizards were able to make the play-off without Gilbert Arenas. Butler is able to score while his ability to pass and run the point is just outstanding as well. What a Point Forward!
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 22.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 6.7 apg

7. Rashard Lewis: Lewis has already proved how good he is as a Sonic. He's a decent shooter and the size advantage over smaller SFs makes him capable of scoring inside. Lewis is definitely the second best player in current Magic team.
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 20.9 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 3.2 apg

8. Richard Jefferson: Someone used to say RJ won't be this good without Kidd, but he's definitely okay playing without a PG. RJ was leading the Nets in scoring last year and the loss of Jefferson might lead the Nets to a lottery spot.
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 20.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 2.4 apg

9. Corey Maggette: Honestly, Maggette had been considerably underrated until he eventually managed to prove himself last season. He is able to penetrate and score inside while taking accurate jump shot. He's the hope for rebuilding Warriors.
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 24.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.0 apg

10. Josh Smith: Josh Smith is an SF indeed just like Shawn Marion and his ability to defend and rebound is almost as good as the latter. Smith is still young and now he has gained a chance to break out --- 2009 is his contract year!
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 19.2 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 1.5 apg

Other Candidates: Andre Kirilenko, Josh Howard, Gerald Wallace, Lamar Odom and Tayshaun Prince.[/quote]

These rankings and stat predictions...Are simply terrible. :banghead:

[QUOTE=Godfather]These rankings and stat predictions...Are simply terrible. :banghead:[/QUOTE]
Paul Pierce at 4 lol these rankings blow so much.

[quote=J23]Paul Pierce at 4 lol these rankings blow so much.[/quote]

What do you expect the idiot said Manu was the second best SG in the NBA...:banghead:

[QUOTE=Godfather]What do you expect the idiot said Manu was the second best SG in the NBA...:banghead:[/QUOTE]

If Manu is not the second best SG the who is?
:confusedshrug:

[quote]2. Ron Artest: Artest is one of the most underrated player in NBA, especially offensively. He can score 20+ ppg as the team's first option and defensively he's the best in current NBA. In a word, Artest deserves the No.2 SF in current league.
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 21.2 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 2.9 apg

3. Carmelo Anthony: Melo is probably the best scoring SF in current league, but the lack of defense and leadership ability make him embarrassed compared to LBJ. Anthony is still young and sky is the limit for his potential.
Predicted Stats For Next Season: 30.4 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 2.5 apg[/quote]
You have got to be kidding me.

[quote=Kiddlovesnets]If Manu is not the second best SG the who is?
:confusedshrug:[/quote]

:roll::roll:I am not going to bring myself down to talk at your level. It is obvious you do not consistently watch NBA basketball or even have a clear understanding of basketball at all.

josh smith isnt better than corey maggette? i already knew the list was garbage but wat a nice way to end it.

Any list that doesn't have Pierce at 2 is simply wrong, sorry.

1. lebron james
2. carmelo anthony
3. caron butler
4. paul pierce
5. andre iguodala
6. ron artest
7. hedo turkoglu
8. stephen jackson
9. andrei kirilenko
10. josh howard

Kiddlovesnets= Idiot

LeBron
Pierce
Carmelo
Artest
Butler

Don't really see Melo scoring 30 ppg, especially with AI on the team, and JR Smith looking to get a bigger role.

Also, Artest won't average 21 ppg. He only averaged 20 ppg for a full season once, and that's with virtually no other competition (K-Mart was injured). With Tmac and Yao, I expect him closer to 14-16 ppg.

And Pierce is 2nd best IMO. His numbers aren't as high because he doesn't need them to be.

This thread is just as bad as the SG one. :ohwell:

[QUOTE=Godfather]What do you expect the idiot said Manu was the second best SG in the NBA...:banghead:[/QUOTE]

Manu is a pretty strong candidate for that title, as he's a proven winner, clutch player and decision maker. He was certainly the second best SG in my book these past couple of years.

[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]

[B]In a word[/B], Artest deserves the No.2 SF in current league.

[/QUOTE]

That's a long word.
I agree with Lebron being number one and thats about it. You're not completely out of the ball park but it could use some refining, particularly the stat predictions. They're very optimistic.

I'd take Deng and J. Smith and Hedo before your 7, 8, and 9 rankings.

[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]If Manu is not the second best SG the who is?
:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

tmac and plz dont even argue

[QUOTE=southside 101]tmac and plz dont even argue[/QUOTE]

Are you kidding me? How'd you rank an all-time loser above a Goat SG like Manu?
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]If Manu is not the second best SG the who is?
:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

Wade, McGrady.

Artest at 2 is crazy and Melo scoring 30 a game is ridicoulous.

1. LeBron
2. Paul Pierce
3. Carmelo
4. Ron Artest
5. Caron Butler
6. Iggy
7. Hedo
8. Rashard Lewis
9. Josh Howard
10. Josh Smith

[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]Are you kidding me? How'd you rank an all-time loser above a Goat SG like Manu?
:roll: :roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]

if u think the manu is better then tmac i truly feel srry for u

1. Lebron
2. Melo
3. Pierce

rest i dont care

[QUOTE=southside 101]if u think the manu is better then tmac i truly feel srry for u[/QUOTE]


Manu >>>>>>>>>>> Tree-Sap

[QUOTE=Solid Snake]Manu >>>>>>>>>>> Tree-Sap[/QUOTE]
:no:

I don't understand McGrady's "Tree-Sap" moniker. I guess I just fail to see the stigma that such a name carries. *shrug*

K. Bryant
D. Wade
T. McGrady
E. Ginobili
A. Iverson

But this thread is for the debate of small forwards, not two-guards.

[QUOTE=Richie2k6]You have got to be kidding me.[/QUOTE]
The only thing carmello does better is shoot, rebound and score. if artest didnt have the history he has, he would be a top three small forward. on ability alone on both sides of the ball he's top three.

LBJ
Pierce
Carmello
Artest
Butler
Josh smith
Lamar odom
Marion
Jefferson
Granger

As jeff van gundy put it, tmacs worst season are still better then manu and most other SG's best season.

Whom do you consider an [B]elite [/B]SF?

LeBron
Carmelo
Paul Peirce
Artest
Butler

[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]If Manu is not the second best SG the who is?
:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Wade

My List

1) Lebron James
2) Paul Peirce
3) Melo
4) Caron Butler
5) Ron Artest
6) Richard Jefferson
7) Josh Smith
8) Corey Maggette
9) Iggy
10) Gerald Wallace

How about you just stop making these threads? They are always fail.


:confusedshrug:

Melo plays 0 defense, doesn't even give an effort on that end 99% of the time i have seen him play.

Way too much love for Artest imo. Before the Houston trade I bet he never cracks top 5. I still think he is dangerous (in the good and bad way), but top 5 is too much.

There are a lot of intersting players at 3 right now. The rankings all blend together in my mind, with James, Anthony, and Pierce standing above the rest.

i think artest's defense has slipped a little in the last two years. maybe it was due to playing on a team that didn't have other defensive players, but he certainly wasn't as good last year as in previous years.

he definitely has the ability to be the best defender on a given night though.

[B]Top 5[/B]

1. LeBron James
2. Paul Pierce
3. Carmelo Anthony
4. Ron Artest
5. Caron Butler

Let

No mention of Granger while guys like Maggs, Odom, and Stephen Jackson are ranked is pretty stupid.

[QUOTE=SourGrapes]i think artest's defense has slipped a little in the last two years. maybe it was due to playing on a team that didn't have other defensive players, but he certainly wasn't as good last year as in previous years.

he definitely has the ability to be the best defender on a given night though.[/QUOTE]

It's got alot to do with him being told to be more of a scorer in sacramento then a stopper. in indiana he had miller and oneal doing the scoring so he could concentrate on defense. the same thing will happen here. he will be told to go out there and play defense and let mcgrady and yao and scola do the scoring. i think you will see him back to he's defensive player of the year level. he's also playing for a contract. i expect a career year on the defensive end for ron.