this guy says the dumbest stuff. I really just dont understand what goes he is thinking when he says stuff like that.
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this guy says the dumbest stuff. I really just dont understand what goes he is thinking when he says stuff like that.
[QUOTE=Younggrease]this guy says the dumbest stuff. I really just dont understand what goes he is thinking when he says stuff like that.[/QUOTE]
Vocally he was the leader. Even Kobe admitted that :confusedshrug:
he was the undisputed leader...
What's there to understand? LeBron led that entire team. Your hero himself admitted that.
What's the problem ? Pretty much everyone recognized he was the leader of that team.
And leader does not mean best player btw.
[QUOTE=Younggrease]this guy says the dumbest stuff. I really just dont understand what goes he is thinking when he says stuff like that.[/QUOTE]
[I]"James spent part of his summer helping the U.S. basketball team redeem its global superiority by winning it all at the Beijing Games. [B]At just 23, he was the undisputed leader of that 12-player squad comprised of superstar talents and supersized egos.
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[QUOTE=Indian guy]What's there to understand? LeBron led that entire team. Your hero himself admitted that.[/QUOTE]
Where did Kobe say that? He said LeBron was the vocal leader, but that he had a different leadership style than LeBron.
[QUOTE=iamgine][I]"James spent part of his summer helping the U.S. basketball team redeem its global superiority by winning it all at the Beijing Games. [B]At just 23, he was the undisputed leader of that 12-player squad comprised of superstar talents and supersized egos.
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[QUOTE=Heilige]Where did Kobe say that? He said LeBron was the vocal leader, but that he had a different leadership style than LeBron.[/QUOTE]
You are right. But his comment is still true, right?
[QUOTE=Heilige]He was not the undisputed leader. LeBron, Kobe and Kidd were all leaders on that team.[/QUOTE]
of course they are :oldlol:
[quote=Heilige]Where did Kobe say that? He said LeBron was the vocal leader, but that he had a different leadership style than LeBron.[/quote]
His leadership style is going crawford on them and jacking up contested 3s.
i remember them saying that bron was the vocal leader because of his loud voice, but i would say if anything the 2 prime leaders were kidd and kobe .
Something out of nothing, imo.
[QUOTE=Younggrease]this guy says the dumbest stuff. I really just dont understand what goes he is thinking when he says stuff like that.[/QUOTE]
Says the guy with Kobe Bryant in his avatar.... haha
[QUOTE=Younggrease]this guy says the dumbest stuff. I really just dont understand what goes he is thinking when he says stuff like that.[/QUOTE]
Now you know how I feel about the average Bryant fanatic.
Your sentence doesn't make sense, by the way. I'm going to assume you meant "I really just don't understand what he is thinking......."
[QUOTE=picc84]Something out of nothing, imo.[/QUOTE]
Exactly
[QUOTE=statman32]Exactly[/QUOTE]
Typical defensive insecurity by Kobe fans.
[QUOTE=Knoe Itawl]Now you know how I feel about the average Bryant fanatic.
Your sentence doesn't make sense, by the way. I'm going to assume you meant "I really just don't understand what he is thinking......."[/QUOTE]
I was in the middle of typing and had to switch back and take notes. I just didnt read it over and was typing rather quickly.
Sorry I find it weird how he calls him self #1 leader, and says he leads guys with "championships and an MVP"? Never heard other elite players say stuff like that, as a player that would piss me off
[QUOTE=Younggrease] Sorry I find it weird how he calls him self #1 leader, and says he leads guys with "championships and an MVP"? Never heard other elite players say stuff like that, as an overly defensive Bryant fan that must come to his aid even over insignificant nonsense such as this that would piss me off[/QUOTE]
Fixed.
Typical LBJ arrogance. What a douche but since it's LeBron -who cares? The hypocrisy here is stunning. Imagine if Kobe consistently said the supremely arrogant stuff LBJ gets away with.:lol
:rolleyes:
Lebron has got to break the record for most times referring to himself as the leader.
The man brings it up every other interview out of the blue.
Just randomly, he'll be like "with me being the leader of this team"
I mean he's no doubt the leader of the Cavs and probably on Team USA as well, but just the way he brings it up randomly outta the blue has me rolling my eyes all the time.
[QUOTE=KINGK]Typical LBJ arrogance. What a douche but since it's LeBron -who cares? The hypocrisy here is stunning. Imagine if Kobe consistently said the supremely arrogant stuff LBJ gets away with.:lol[/QUOTE]
LeBrick is very INSECURE and IMMATURE. Just look at how many times he hypes himself up and talks about his great qualities. This coming from someone who shot an all-time record low 25% through 5 games of the conference finals this past season. Also when it mattered in the Gold medal game, he disappeared in the 4th quarter and ran away from the ball whenever it came to him as Kobe bailed his ass out and secured the gold medal for Team USA.
LeBron reminds me of those hood rats who play street-ball...where all they do is talk trash and talk loud and they are under the impression that they're being "leaders."
Personally I'd prefer someone who leads by EXAMPLE than some idiot yelling and thumping his chest all day long proclaiming his leader status.
I can't wait until LeBron gores 'Grant Hill' this season (as I have already predicted). The less I see and hear about this guy while getting my daily NBA fix....the BETTER. The same with Greg Odone as well.
[QUOTE=Resurrection]LeBrick is very INSECURE and IMMATURE. Just look at how many times he hypes himself up and talks about his great qualities. This coming from someone who shot an all-time record low 25% through 5 games of the conference finals this past season. Also when it mattered in the Gold medal game, he disappeared in the 4th quarter and ran away from the ball whenever it came to him as Kobe bailed his ass out and secured the gold medal for Team USA.
LeBron reminds me of those hood rats who play street-ball...where all they do is talk trash and talk loud and they are under the impression that they're being "leaders."
Personally I'd prefer someone who leads by EXAMPLE than some idiot yelling and thumping his chest all day long proclaiming his leader status.
I can't wait until LeBron gores 'Grant Hill' this season (as I have already predicted). The less I see and hear about this guy while getting my daily NBA fix....the BETTER. The same with Greg Odone as well.[/QUOTE]
wow took the words right out of my mind.....
I bet the whole time kobe and kidd where laughing in their head when lebron was trying to "lead" the team
Kobe said he was the leader. Most everyone who commented on the team in public said either he or Kidd(and a few Kobes I think) lead them. He played better than anyone with the possible exception of Wade. If its true...whats the problem in saying it? I cant see Deron Williams giving a damn that Lebron assumed he was the leader. Or Wade. Or Melo. Or Paul. think they are sitting around thinking "I cant believe he said that...." and discussing how it makes them feel inside?
I cant see anyone really giving a damn about this....other than Kobe of course. He seems the type to take just about everything as motivation. But if he works as hard as is often said its not like he has much room to increase it.
Just an all around non issue.
[QUOTE=Resurrection]LeBrick is very INSECURE and IMMATURE. Just look at how many times he hypes himself up and talks about his great qualities. This coming from someone who shot an all-time record low 25% through 5 games of the conference finals this past season. Also when it mattered in the Gold medal game, he disappeared in the 4th quarter and ran away from the ball whenever it came to him as Kobe bailed his ass out and secured the gold medal for Team USA.
LeBron reminds me of those hood rats who play street-ball...where all they do is talk trash and talk loud and they are under the impression that they're being "leaders."
Personally I'd prefer someone who leads by EXAMPLE than some idiot yelling and thumping his chest all day long proclaiming his leader status.
I can't wait until LeBron gores 'Grant Hill' this season (as I have already predicted). The less I see and hear about this guy while getting my daily NBA fix....the BETTER. The same with Greg Odone as well.[/QUOTE]
Lebron does lead by example. He was Team USA's best player.
All he does is talk trash and loud? He more than backs it up.
But with that said... he still does randomly, outta the blue, brings up that he's a leader.
This should be a recurring SNL skit. Where someoe as Lebron answers every question by talking about how he's a leader.
And Blaze, Bron was probably the leader. But I don't agree with you that no one else on the team cares about that comment. I mean I'm sure they're not like deeply affected, but when Wade or Kobe heard that they probably rolled their eyes a little. Or at least they thought what I thought,
"That Lebron is randomly out of the referring to himself as the leader again."
Nothign wrong with that he did, but he does bring that sh*t up without provoked.
Imagine if everyone was like him, it'd get quite annoying.
ESPN: So KG, how does it feel to be on the cover of NBA 2k9?
KG: Well it was a great honor, and with me being the leader of the champion Celtics and all, I wanted to make sure I bring that leadership abilities to NBA 2k9
And you guys know I'm no fan of Kobe. I'm just saying, it's not just Kobe fans who notices Lebron's a bit into padding his own back. But Kobe's a arrogant guy himself. Just that he's a different kind of arrogant. His kind is he'll be shooting 1 for 11 but if he hits the next one he gives that whole "don't you dare leave me open" look and then brushes dirt off his shoulders.
They both annoying if you ask me.
[quote=EricForman]Lebron does lead by example. He was Team USA's best player.
All he does is talk trash and loud? He more than backs it up.
But with that said... he still does randomly, outta the blue, brings up that he's a leader.
This should be a recurring SNL skit. Where someoe as Lebron answers every question by talking about how he's a leader.
And Blaze, Bron was probably the leader. But I don't agree with you that no one else on the team cares about that comment. I mean I'm sure they're not like deeply affected, but when Wade or Kobe heard that they probably rolled their eyes a little. Or at least they thought what I thought,
"That Lebron is randomly out of the referring to himself as the leader again."
Nothign wrong with that he did, but he does bring that sh*t up without provoked.
Imagine if everyone was like him, it'd get quite annoying.
ESPN: So KG, how does it feel to be on the cover of NBA 2k9?
KG: Well it was a great honor, and with me being the leader of the champion Celtics and all, I wanted to make sure I bring that leadership abilities to NBA 2k9[/quote]
Great but his responses have more to do with the questions being asked than with what he wants to say.
More likely than not he was asked if he was able to lead the cavs team the way he did with team USA this summer, and that's where you got that answer.
[QUOTE=EricForman]Lebron does lead by example. He was Team USA's best player. [/QUOTE]
Where was Team USA's "best player" vs Spain when the lead was trimmed to 2 points with 8 minutes left and the outcome was still up in the air?
I saw the "leader" and "best player" standing out in the perimeter playing HOT POTATO with the ball whenever it was passed to him. He clearly did not want the pressure of stepping up and taking over the close ball game (as TRUE "leaders" tend to do). Instead I saw LeBron defer to Kobe Bryant, who secured the Gold medal for Team USA.
I guess when it mattered....LeBron and everyone else on that team knew who the REAL leader was on that squad. Luckily for Team USA, it was not the loud-mouth insecure clown but the player who actually leads with his play and by EXAMPLE.
In LeBron's case, it's easy to be the team's best player (aka stat padder) when USA is up by 30-40 points in games. However a true measure of greatness is how you perforrm when the game is close and when all the marbles are on the line. LeBron miserably FAILED (as expected) during this outcome.
[quote=Resurrection]Where was Team USA's "best player" vs Spain when the lead was trimmed to 2 points with 8 minutes left and the outcome was still up in the air?
I saw the "leader" and "best player" standing out in the perimeter playing HOT POTATO with the ball whenever it was passed to him. He clearly did not want the pressure of stepping up and taking over the close ball game (as TRUE "leaders" tend to do). Instead I saw LeBron defer to Kobe Bryant, who secured the Gold medal for Team USA.
I guess when it mattered....LeBron and everyone else on that team knew who the REAL leader was on that squad. Luckily for Team USA, it was not the loud-mouth insecure clown but the player who actually leads with his play and by EXAMPLE.[/quote]
By chucking up 8 contested 3s and making 3 from the euro line? He got outplayed by fernandez and hit one big 3 the whole game.
If it wasn't for his constant chucking spain wouldn't even have been in that game.
havent stepped into the nba forum for a while... Nice to see nothing has changed.
He is a good floor commander / leader.
If Kobe said shyt like this all the time he would get a lot of slack for it though.
As I recall, Kobe was asked, "who are the leaders of this team?"
to which he responded,
"Kidd and Lebron are the most vocal, they are always talking".
all I know is, when the gold was on the line, one player was the leader...and it sure as hell wasnt Lebron.
[quote=Kblaze8855]Kobe said he was the leader. Most everyone who commented on the team in public said either he or Kidd(and a few Kobes I think) lead them. He played better than anyone with the possible exception of Wade. If its true...whats the problem in saying it? I cant see Deron Williams giving a damn that Lebron assumed he was the leader. Or Wade. Or Melo. Or Paul. think they are sitting around thinking "I cant believe he said that...." and discussing how it makes them feel inside?
I cant see anyone really giving a damn about this....other than Kobe of course. He seems the type to take just about everything as motivation. But if he works as hard as is often said its not like he has much room to increase it.
Just an all around non issue.[/quote]
Yeah it really isn't an issue.
I agree that Lebron talks about himself a bit too much for my liking, but that's just me. I think he is a bit arrogant and cocky, but hey he was the main leader on that team, not saying he was the only one, but he was the main leader.
[QUOTE=iamgine][I]"James spent part of his summer helping the U.S. basketball team redeem its global superiority by winning it all at the Beijing Games. [B]At just 23, he was the undisputed leader of that 12-player squad comprised of superstar talents and supersized egos.
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“If you can lead 11 of the best guys in the world, you can lead anybody,” James said Monday. “If I can lead Kobe Bryant and MVPs, I should be able to lead Daniel Gibson.”"[/I]
Do you understand better now or still need a little help?[/QUOTE]
It's a non issue, but I would hope Lebron recognizes that there is a difference in leading someone like Kobe Bryant and leading someone like Daniel Gibson.
Why is this even an argument. LBJ may not have been the leader on the court but vocally he was so therefore he lead the team to a gold.
LBJ led the team vocally
Kobe led the team on the court
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[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]As I recall, Kobe was asked, "who are the leaders of this team?"
to which he responded,
"Kidd and Lebron are the most vocal, they are always talking".
[B]all I know is, when the gold was on the line, one player was the leader...and it sure as hell wasnt Lebron.[/B][/QUOTE]
lol he had a great stint in crunch time, but by no means was Kobe the only reason why they won. Remember, Lebron, Wade, and Bosh were big before that, and after Kobe's late spurt, they hit a 3 to cut the lead close, and Wade's answer 3 point shot was the biggest nail. It was a team effort in that single game, and Kobe wasn't that great throughout the rest of the games like Lebron, so don't get all but hurt about it.
[QUOTE=Younggrease]this guy says the dumbest stuff. I really just dont understand what goes he is thinking when he says stuff like that.[/QUOTE]
I pray for you to be blessed with a solid and secure conscious in the future:applause: This is embarassing thread:violin:
[QUOTE=1~Gibson~1]Why is this even an argument. LBJ may not have been the leader on the court but vocally he was so therefore he lead the team to a gold.
LBJ led the team vocally
Kobe led the team on the court
/THREAD[/QUOTE]
Uh, no offense...but Kobe didn't lead the team on the court either.
I can't understand why there's so much upset about a stupid sentence that's ripped from its context.
[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]
all I know is, when the gold was on the line, one player was the leader...and it sure as hell wasnt Lebron.[/QUOTE]
Are you serious?! That's all it takes to be a leader?! bp2, I didn't think you would join in with the rest of the groupie clowns that get offended over who's the leader and who's not. If it was Lebron, then so be it. Geeesh!
[QUOTE=Showtime]lol he had a great stint in crunch time, but by no means was Kobe the only reason why they won. Remember, Lebron, Wade, and Bosh were big before that, and after Kobe's late spurt, they hit a 3 to cut the lead close, and Wade's answer 3 point shot was the biggest nail. It was a team effort in that single game, and Kobe wasn't that great throughout the rest of the games like Lebron, so don't get all but hurt about it.[/QUOTE]
true, Wade was probably the most consistently outstanding player thruout the Olympics. and Wade was there, in the clutch, for the gold...alongside Kobe. Lebron was solid thruout the Olympics, but disappeared at clutchtime for the gold.