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The 2nd Presidential Debate is Tuesday night, 9 PM EST. It is a town hall format. (Prescreened questions from actual voters)
Let's put all your Pre, during, and Post debate comments here.
Can McCain change the current trend? What is McCain going to try?
mister independent voter here again.
i'm slightly discouraged about how the campaign has turned to attacks on the character and record of each candidate from the other.
i understand that mccain has no choice but to try this, but somehow i kind of hoped that obama would not stoop to responding. but i also worry that some independent voters will take seriously palin's ridiculous claims about obama cavorting with terrorists.
it's already unfortunate enough that obama has a muslim name and is black because of the number of paranoid and racist voters who will automatically vote against him for those things. then again, mccain is very old and somewhat crippled and that may unfairly influence voters also. *shrug*
Why bother with another debate? If you can't tell the difference between these too yet one more night of hearing the same tired-ass rehashed lines isn't going to help you.
Another debate, another time for bullsh!t to spew from each of the candidate's mouth.
Obama!
[QUOTE=embersyc]Why bother with another debate? If you can't tell the difference between these too yet one more night of hearing the same tired-ass rehashed lines isn't going to help you.[/QUOTE]
It gives all of McCain's supporters a chance to get re-Maverickitized.
12 hours to debate time.
if mccain wins i sure hope they keep him healthy. palin seems half as dumb as bush. and bush seems like a monkey half the time.
[quote=Mamba]if mccain wins i sure hope they keep him healthy. palin seems half as dumb as bush. and bush seems like a monkey half the time.[/quote]
Would that make Palin 1/4 of a monkey?
[COLOR="Magenta"][SIZE="3"]Yes. 1/4 monkey, 3/4 MAVERICK[/SIZE][/COLOR]
[B][COLOR=blue]Maverick Monkey[/COLOR][/B]
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[QUOTE=rufuspaul]Would that make Palin 1/4 of a monkey?[/QUOTE]
McCain/Monkey 2008
Palin makes George Bush look like Obama....
I am sure McCain will be on good behavior and limit the personal attacks in a national forum like the debate... he will do it and his attack dogs while on the campaign trail and in the media....
:pimp:
Lets get that TKO tonight Obama!!!!
:rockon:
Show no mercy to the GOP!!!!!!!!!!!!
Down Down Down.....McBush s going down!!! :rockon:
McCain!
[QUOTE=gigantes]
it's already unfortunate enough that obama has a muslim name and is black because of the number of paranoid and racist voters who will automatically vote against him for those things. [/QUOTE]
more than cancelled out by the number of people who are voting FOR obama strictly BECAUSE he is black. (blacks, college liberals, etc.)
Gonna be the same tired lines by both parties. People pretty much know where they stand on the issues. I doubt that there will be any surprises. Obama is up in the polls, so he will play it close to the vest so he won't possibly offend anyone. McCain will take a beating if he starts to personally attack Obama. Like another poster said, that sort of politicking is going on on the campaign trail, not on the national news in a debate.
Considering the relevant demographics, anyone with whom Obama's race is a positive influence and who are voting for Obama primarily because he is black, would probably be much more likely to vote for a democratic nominee anyway if forced to choose between two white men. Obama's skin color i'd imagine is mostly just pulling votes from previously unregistered democrats (mostly blacks). I doubt there are many deadset republicans who are completely flipping their votes just b/c he is black.
On the flip, there are plenty of white democrats who won't vote for him just for that factor.
[QUOTE=picc84]Considering the relevant demographics, anyone with whom Obama's race is a positive influence and who are voting for Obama primarily because he is black, would probably be much more likely to vote for a democratic nominee anyway.[/QUOTE]
true.
just goes to show that the majority of americans - from both sides of the aisle - vote for an ideology and not a leader
Because of the collapse on Wall Street, Obama and McCain will be taking questions from people wearing barrels.
[QUOTE=Denali]more than cancelled out by the number of people who are voting FOR obama strictly BECAUSE he is black. (blacks, college liberals, etc.)[/QUOTE]
first of all, i doubt that the racism and xenophobia is more than cancelled out by kneejerk black voters. black people are still a minority, after all.
second, i doubt that many liberals would vote for obama BECAUSE he is black. the two things don't necessarily have anything to do with each other and i have little idea why you would make such a silly claim.
[QUOTE=gigantes] xenophobia [/QUOTE]
Somebody's been using his word a day calendar.
[QUOTE=bagelred]Somebody's been using his word a day calendar.[/QUOTE]
or i simply paid attention in seventh grade english.
[QUOTE=gigantes]or i simply paid attention in seventh grade english.[/QUOTE]
Nah.....word a day calendar......
I know alot of phobias, but didn't know that one. Had to look it up.
[QUOTE=bagelred]Nah.....word a day calendar......
I know alot of phobias, but didn't know that one. Had to look it up.[/QUOTE]
not knowing the word yourself i can understand why you can't conceive of anyone else knowing it either.
[QUOTE=gigantes]not knowing the word yourself i can understand why you can't conceive of anyone else knowing it either.[/QUOTE]
Exactly.
well, don't feel bad. when you see words you don't understand, like xenophobia, try to break them into their constituents- you can often figure out their meaning that way.
for example, you already knew what "phobia" meant. "xeno" is obviously greek, and when you find out that "xenos" means "stranger" you can pretty-much figure out what the two together would mean without your little word-a-day calendar or whatever you have there.
[QUOTE=gigantes]
for example, you already knew what "phobia" meant. "xeno" is obviously greek, and when you find out that "xenos" means "stranger" you can pretty-much figure out what the two together would mean without your little word-a-day calendar or whatever you have there.[/QUOTE]
i have determined that roughly translated, it means "fear of the warrior princess"
how close am i?
[QUOTE=gigantes]well, don't feel bad. when you see words you don't understand, like xenophobia, try to break them into their constituents- you can often figure out their meaning that way.
for example, you already knew what "phobia" meant. "xeno" is obviously greek, and when you find out that "xenos" means "stranger" you can pretty-much figure out what the two together would mean without your little word-a-day calendar or whatever you have there.[/QUOTE]
I have Gigantephobia.
1/2 hour to debate time.
We need a nice controversial moment to make it worth watching.
[QUOTE=bagelred]
We need a nice controversial moment to make it worth watching.[/QUOTE]
barrack obama sees an america where nobody is rich, everyone is gay, and radicals receive safe harbor and appeasement.
:hammertime:
what a dumb question
"hey, how can we fix the economy?"
lol
like its just that easy
mccain substance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obama substance
Obama's smart.He's working the middle class.
That's probaly the majority of us in here.
obama was just about to condemn washington spending in his answer, before he remembered that he's for it so he quickly re-routed his sentence .
nice.
"senator obama has never taken on the leaders of his party on major issues"
connects with a haymaker
I miss Palin already :(
McCain is a racist!
McCain is trying to make it sound like we're his friends. This is one reason why I hate politicians. They talk to you like they're your buddy or your pal, and they end up stabbing you in the back by not helping us.