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Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
Not saying he's a bad player or anything, but he's definitely not what he's hyped up to be. I've been hearing people saying that he's an allstar this year and I think that is ridiculous. Hell I think Sebastian Telfair, Delonte West and Allen Ray would look like allstars next to Garnett, Pierce and Allen. At least those three guards can actually shoot the ball. Rondo passes up on so many open looks which he should be taken. Maybe I haven't seen enough to really say, but from what I've seen he's nowhere near an allstar caliber guard just yet.
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Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
All-star? No. But Rondo beat out Telfair for a reason. Allan Ray, not even going to go there.
Delonte West may just look like an All-Star in the half court, though Rondo is the better PG.
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He's playing great, much better then last year, but I agree with you. He's averaging 11/7/5. He's playing great all-around, but thats nothing to go crazy about. Devin Harris is clearly better. Derrick Rose is clearly better. Jose Calderon is third in the league in assists right now and he gets absolutely no mention. Now I know everyone is going to say "they're not winning", but does anybody honestly think the Celtics wouldn't do just as well, if not better, with one of the PGs I mentioned instead of Rondo?
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Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
He is a product of the veteran team members around him, but he is indeed playing very well and contributing significantly toward the success of that team.
I would not take anything away from him, IMO. He has over exceeded my expectations from what I thought he could be.
He deserves props for that.
:pimp:
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[QUOTE=Mississippi]Not saying he's a bad player or anything, but he's definitely not what he's hyped up to be. I've been hearing people saying that he's an allstar this year and I think that is ridiculous. Hell I think Sebastian Telfair, Delonte West and Allen Ray would look like allstars next to Garnett, Pierce and Allen. At least those three guards can actually shoot the ball. Rondo passes up on so many open looks which he should be taken. Maybe I haven't seen enough to really say, but from what I've seen he's nowhere near an allstar caliber guard just yet.[/QUOTE]
Yes thank you. I'm at school, and I start hearing that Rondo is better than Devin Harris and Deron Williams at that point i knew things were getting out of hand. Rondo has stepped up his scoring game this season but is not among the top 10 point guards in the league ATM. When your with All stars it always gives you advantages over the other point guards in the league.
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Rondo is quicker than any of the mentioned players, a better defender, and a better playmaker. He may not be an All-Star just yet, but he will be in the future. I bet you think Gabe Pruitt>>>Rondo just because he can shoot. LMAO
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uif you saw rondo in college, you saw what he could do. One of the best rebounding guards I can recall in recent memory. solid passer, long arms and quick. Solid handle. All hes missing is a jumper and that is fine.
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He's been very good this year, but not great. He's probably going to make the all-star team, but i'm not sure if that's because of his production, the Celtics record, or because there are not a lot of great point guards in the East. With that said, he's got a ton of potential and with the solid foundation in Boston he'll probably reach it. Can you imagine how good he'll be once he develops a consistent jumpshot?
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[QUOTE=boozehound]uif you saw rondo in college, you saw what he could do. One of the best rebounding guards I can recall in recent memory. solid passer, long arms and quick. Solid handle. All hes missing is a jumper and that is fine.[/QUOTE]
Rajon Rondo was worse in college. The college game never really suited his style of play.
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[QUOTE=#1 LAL]Rajon Rondo was worse in college. The college game never really suited his style of play.[/QUOTE]
That said, he still led the SEC in assists, while playing for Tubby Smith. Smith micromanaged him and really slowed it down, but Rajon was still able to drop dimes.
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[QUOTE=#1 LAL]Rajon Rondo was worse in college. The college game never really suited his style of play.[/QUOTE]
sure, he had some rough times in college but he had some brilliant flashes. As far as late round picks thats what you gotta look for
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His college career had me wanting Marcus Williams more, haha. Tubby put him at SG so I personally saw a 6foot combo guard that couldn't shoot, thought he was worthless. Glad to be wrong.
[QUOTE=guy]He's playing great, much better then last year, but I agree with you. He's averaging 11/7/5. He's playing great all-around, but thats nothing to go crazy about. Devin Harris is clearly better. Derrick Rose is clearly better. Jose Calderon is third in the league in assists right now and he gets absolutely no mention. Now I know everyone is going to say "they're not winning", but does anybody honestly think the Celtics wouldn't do just as well, if not better, with one of the PGs I mentioned instead of Rondo?[/QUOTE]
Rose, with experience, would definitely be an improvement and right now may be better for the team, altrhough I'm not sure if he defends on par with Rondo. Calderon and Harris are definite offensive improvements, but on d Calderon is a downgrade, whereas Harris may be able to defend like Rondo but doesn't. And D is the Cs trademark. They are all better players than Rondo but may not be better for the Celtics.
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Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
He's not an All-Star, so anyone claiming that is overrating.
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Rondo is not an all-star yet, but he's damn good, especially on D. If he's overrated, its only a reflection of playing on the best team.
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Ive watched plenty of celtic games this year. who is overrating rondo? Hes not better then any of the big 3.. so who is saying he is? nobody... hes an amazing role player he makes really good choices and plays great with the team he has. dude is a baller im lovin his play this season. he does get ALOT of open looks though in the paint and outside. im sure alot of point guards wish they were in his position with the big 3 getting him so many open looks.
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Agree that he's in part a product of the guys around him, but that goes both ways. And he's not at that all-star level yet, but when you consider he was supposed to be the weak link when the Big Three came in I definitely think he's been a surprise.
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[QUOTE=spursdynasty420]Ive watched plenty of celtic games this year. who is overrating rondo? Hes not better then any of the big 3.. so who is saying he is? nobody... hes an amazing role player he makes really good choices and plays great with the team he has. dude is a baller im lovin his play this season. he does get ALOT of open looks though in the paint and outside. im sure alot of point guards wish they were in his position with the big 3 getting him so many open looks.[/QUOTE]
The Celtic analysts on Comcast Sports Net New England as well as Jeff Howe on Boston's Metro and some of the local Sportswriters are telling everyone that RR is an All-star, so the guy has a point. It's starting to effect the opinions of some Celtic fans, including on this board.
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Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
He's a future all star if he stays in the east.
Here's an interesting question: Would he become better or worse if he was on a lesser team than Boston?
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He'd have bigger stats with a bigger role, but no one would be calling him an All-Star.
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[QUOTE=Mississippi]Not saying he's a bad player or anything, but he's definitely not what he's hyped up to be. I've been hearing people saying that he's an allstar this year and I think that is ridiculous. Hell I think [B]Sebastian Telfair,[/B] Delonte West and Allen Ray would look like allstars next to Garnett, Pierce and Allen. At least those three guards [B]can actually shoot the ball[/B]. Rondo passes up on so many open looks which he should be taken. Maybe I haven't seen enough to really say, but from what I've seen he's nowhere near an allstar caliber guard just yet.[/QUOTE]
NO. and there's now way you put delonte alongside those other two, it's just not fair.
anyway, i'm happy you aren't praising rondo straight away, and you're letting him prove himself. and that's what all the bandwagoners or/and haters should do. guy is young, let him ball.
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Rondo is a very lucky player, because Boston is exactly the right place for him.
He can showcase his talents, and the bad parts of his game don't really matter in Boston.
But make no mistake, he isn't really any better than a guy like Brevin Knight. He's still pretty young though, so there is room for improvement.
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If you check nba.com, there's a headline "Who will you send to the AS game?" or something like that, with Rondo's picture.
That's overrating.
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he has become over rated deffinatly. the guy is very good and physicaly very gifted but he does some really dumb things that make me question his intelligence, which also makes me believe he will never get that much better.
when did he stop dunking thoe, for ****s sake it pisses me off when ultra athletic guys dont even dunk on the fast break.
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Playing in Boston is such a double edged sword for Rondo. He [B]is[/B] playing like an All Star caliber point guard. And yes, that has something to do with the fact that he plays with the Big 3. However, if he played on a different team i think his scoring numbers would be higher, assist numbers only slightly slower, and he would still play some of the best defense out of the point guard posistion in the league. I don't think people realize how much he means to the Celtics, and you certainly couldn't just throw someone like Sebastian Telfair in there and get the same results.
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[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iK2QgWE_7Y[/url]
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[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green]All-star? No. But Rondo beat out Telfair for a reason. Allan Ray, not even going to go there.
Delonte West may just look like an All-Star in the half court, though Rondo is the better PG.[/QUOTE]
No matter how many courts there are Delonte West will never look like an All-Star. Telfair is and always was garbage. Rondo is decent but all of a sudden everyone's on his jock.
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I read in an Indy Star article that the writer overheard some team's scout talking about Rondo and he said "he's a garbage PG, if he played on a mediocre team people would see that." I may be paraphrasing, but that was the gist.
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[QUOTE=chains5000]If you check nba.com, there's a headline "Who will you send to the AS game?" or something like that, with Rondo's picture.
That's overrating.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, he isn't All Star material.
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He's a very efficient player, and that's why people like him. Very few PGs have the all-around game that he has. Jason Kidd was always a poor shooter and that didn't stop people from appreciating him. Rondo is very much in the same vein, except that his skills are far more on the defensive end.
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[QUOTE=Alonzo Magic]Exactly, he isn't All Star material.[/QUOTE]
Do you really believe that? I mean, he has to at least be in the conversation. The only east PG you can say is definitely more deserving is Devin Harris. Then you got Calderon, Ford, Rondo, Rose who all have arguments in their favor. It's very difficult for me to accept the "not All Star material" nonargument.
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Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
He is a great point guard for the team he is on, but anywhere else I don't think he would be nearly as effective.
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Is he becoming a tad bit overrated? Sure. But let's not forget, the first person you hear mentioned when anyone in the Celtics organization mentions how good they're playing is Rondo. When 3 of the best players of the decade credit a role player for the success they're enjoying, you've got a damn good role player.
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people overrating Rondo are morons, especially idiots say hes better or ever will be better than Deron haha yeh lets trade those two players, Jazz instantly become not even playoff team and Celtics=an automatic finals for the next 3 years with Deron instead of Rondo.
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[QUOTE=ukplayer4]he has become over rated deffinatly. the guy is very good and physicaly very gifted but he does some really dumb things that make me question his intelligence, which also makes me believe he will never get that much better.
when did he stop dunking thoe, for ****s sake it pisses me off when ultra athletic guys dont even dunk on the fast break.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, not dunking on a fast break is definitely a dumb thing and a sign that he is lacking in intelligence.
Perhaps you should improve your spelling before you get too critical about another person's intelligence.
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[QUOTE=Paladin55]Yeah, not dunking on a fast break is definitely a dumb thing and a sign that he is lacking in intelligence.
Perhaps you should improve your spelling before you get too critical about another person's intelligence.[/QUOTE]
it is your reading comprehension that really needs the work here, are you that mentally defective that you cannot tell that i clearly made two different points there.......not dunking on the fast break obviously not being connected to a lack of intelligence hence the use of two clearly spaced out points/paragraphs.
you really are desperate trying to imply that i meant him not dunking is due to his lack of intelligence.
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Face it, the East is pretty weak at the 1. Harris is just now having a breakout year. Then you've got what, Calderon, Dre Miller, Bibby, Ford, Rose, Rondo? None of those guys are All-Stars in my opinion. Good thing the ASG just picks generic "guards" and not specifically 1s or 2s.
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[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]Face it, the East is pretty weak at the 1. Harris is just now having a breakout year. Then you've got what, Calderon, Dre Miller, Bibby, Ford, Rose, Rondo? None of those guys are All-Stars in my opinion. Good thing the ASG just picks generic "guards" and not specifically 1s or 2s.[/QUOTE]
Why does Mo Williams always get forgoten? I mean he is the PG for the 3rd best team in the league and is putting up pretty good numbers.
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[QUOTE=Mdog1]Why does Mo Williams always get forgoten? I mean he is the PG for the 3rd best team in the league and is putting up pretty good numbers.[/QUOTE]
I think it is because for the past few years everyone has been convinced that all of Lebrons teamates "suck", that at this point nobody is able to give them any credit for the cavs success.
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[QUOTE=Mdog1]Why does Mo Williams always get forgoten? I mean he is the PG for the 3rd best team in the league and is putting up pretty good numbers.[/QUOTE]
Because Mo Williams is a one dimensional scorer slash chucker, not a point guard.
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Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
there maybe people overrating rondo but i think there are more people here who cant see how good this kid is......