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Depends which type of physics. Mechanics or electricity and optics?
If it's mechanics then pre-cal is harder but if it's electricity and optics physics, physics is harder.
be more specific.
What level of physics? The garbage you learn in high school? University level calculus based physics? Semiconductor physics? Quantum physics?
i slept thru physics.. wouldnt know and sure as phuck not gonna take pre calculus
Pre-Calc was an absolute breeze. Physics was harder for me.
lol glove, why'd you delete your post?
lol Glove_20 = original poster. Dumbass forgot to use his other name and deleted the post. "uhh I've never taken a physics class before, so it's just entry level physics I guess" so much for mr. smart guy :oldlol:
[QUOTE=mhg88]lol Glove_20 = original poster. Dumbass forgot to use his other name and deleted the post. "uhh I've never taken a physics class before, so it's just entry level physics I guess" so much for mr. smart guy :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
lol
Obviously that was a joke :oldlol:
I do that often if you haven't noticed
[QUOTE=Glove_20]Obviously that was a joke :oldlol:
I do that often if you haven't noticed[/QUOTE]
ok.
To answer the question, Physics (1st year) is generally harder than Pre-Calc
Though both were very easy to me.
[QUOTE=Glove_20]Obviously that was a joke :oldlol:
I do that often if you haven't noticed[/QUOTE]
No, I haven't noticed...and I'd consider that more of a waste of time than a "joke". Weird sense of humor. :confusedshrug:
i take pre calc right now and its a ***** kinda
[QUOTE=Duality0234]Discuss.[/QUOTE]
Yeah it really depends on the level. Your obviously talking about high school ala Pre Calc.
I, lilojmayo is a very reliable source on this topic because just last school year i took Physics I and Pre Calc (Honors)
All I got to say is Pre Calc (H) shyts on Physics I 10/10
but this year i'm taking AP Calculus BCand AP Physics II and Physics II shyts on Calculus 10/10 times. You can't compare the two Physics is such a beast especially this Electromagnetic shyt. I have a test tomorrow actually i'm probably going to fail it. I have never gotten anything less than a B on a Calculus test this year.
If you're in high school chances are Pre-Calc will be more difficult unless you're taking AP Physics,, because technically sin, cos, tan, sec, the whole shebang regarding early calc, factorials are a bit new. Whereas if you take like a low level Physica you're bound to talk about Newton and freakin' Bohr and basic FBD sh!t, Kinematics etc.
College-wise Physics quickly becomes far more the difficult course.
In university, I found calc a bit harder than physics. I don't find the material in calc to be hard, but just find it impossible to maintain motivation doing all those repetitive and dry problem sets (ended up doing 1 maybe 2 sets all year). I prefer courses where calc is a tool, like in physics and economics because I NEED real world applications no matter what I'm learning. I am thinking of revisiting calc next year though and take an upper year courses in it.
In physics difficulty for me went like:
Waves/Oscillation > Nuclear Physics > Electromagnetism (most enjoyable imo) > Mechanics
Haven't taken a rigorous quantum course (probably never will).
If you're talking high school, both courses are a joke.
Can anyone from the USA post their physics tests on here (1st year). I want to note the difference in difficulty between Canadian universities and American ones, if it exists.
[QUOTE=Fatal9]Can anyone from the USA post their physics tests on here (1st year). I want to note the difference in difficulty between Canadian universities and American ones, if it exists.[/QUOTE]
I would bet they are generally the same difficulty if you compare top engineering/physics universities in both nations.
Anybody use mastering physics/university physics?
I got an 82 in first year physics (mostly your basic mechanical physics minus a few chapters).
Not bad for not going to one class the second semester, not studying for the final exam and not taking any science or math classes in grade 12. lol
Basic math I'm easy with, but **** calc and ****. That stuff I'd have to study hours for to call it easy. I remember in grade 11 math (when you first really start doing a lot of that ****) I had a 72 going into the final exam and I decided not to study and just put down anwers as quickly as possibe. I got 28% on the exam and finished with a 62. lol
[QUOTE=i seen hippos]I got an 82 in first year physics (mostly your basic mechanical physics minus a few chapters).
Not bad for not going to one class the second semester, not studying for the final exam and not taking any science or math classes in grade 12. lol
Basic math I'm easy with, but **** calc and ****. That stuff I'd have to study hours for to call it easy. I remember in grade 11 math (when you first really start doing a lot of that ****) I had a 72 going into the final exam and I decided not to study and just put down anwers as quickly as possibe. I got 28% on the exam and finished with a 62. lol[/QUOTE]
Wow you're stupid. Even without studying I would be able to ace Calculus exams. Calculus is easy.
[QUOTE=Glove_20]Wow you're stupid. Even without studying I would be able to ace Calculus exams. Calculus is easy.[/QUOTE]
Every time we have this argument I say you can take Gary Payton and math. I never pretend to admit I have any interest in either.
And like always I dare you to debate me on any outside of that and like always you'll respond to someone else calling you out to avoid my challenge.
You're stupid. Admit it. If mommy and daddy didn't chain your Indian ass to your chair every night and force you to do 8 hours of homework you'd be in my boat. But I thank the lord they did. Your exchanges with the next Rockefeller are priceless...if only they were meant to be satirical.
I might actually ask this here -
Say I were debating majoring in Physics for an undergrad. I've never taken a course in HS, and have no more than elementary knowledge of the subject matter. I took Pre-Cal first year and got a B- while putting in virtually no work (that won't happen again obviously if I decide to major in a science/math - I have a newfound respect for those subject). Do you guys think I would need to take a HS equivalency course before I enter the introductory classes in first year, or would I be able to get by with hard work but no foundation? Forget requirements, I'm just curious about difficulty at this point.
[QUOTE=i seen hippos]Every time we have this argument I say you can take Gary Payton and math. I never pretend to admit I have any interest in either.
And like always I dare you to debate me on any outside of that and like always you'll respond to someone else calling you out to avoid my challenge.
You're stupid. Admit it. If mommy and daddy didn't chain your Indian ass to your chair every night and force you to do 8 hours of homework you'd be in my boat. But I thank the lord they did. Your exchanges with the next Rockefeller are priceless...if only they were meant to be satirical.[/QUOTE]
Didn't I just say I would ace Calc exams without studying? And homework? Who did that in HS?
I own you everywhere besides Music (because I only listen to indian music, so that's understandable) and emo-ness.
Got a bunch of **** talkers on here, but I've never seen anyone post a test, transcripts, degrees, term papers, assistantship awards, etc.
[QUOTE=RidonKs]I might actually ask this here -
Say I were debating majoring in Physics for an undergrad. I've never taken a course in HS, and have no more than elementary knowledge of the subject matter. I took Pre-Cal first year and got a B- while putting in virtually no work (that won't happen again obviously if I decide to major in a science/math - I have a newfound respect for those subject). Do you guys think I would need to take a HS equivalency course before I enter the introductory classes in first year, or would I be able to get by with hard work but no foundation? Forget requirements, I'm just curious about difficulty at this point.[/QUOTE]
RiDonks me and you rarely get along, but I can give you really good advice on this topic if you're willing to listen (Off of someone else's knowledge/experience)
[QUOTE=DeuceWallaces]Got a bunch of **** talkers on here, but I've never seen anyone post a test, transcripts, degrees, term papers, assistantship awards, etc.[/QUOTE]
the only one I want to see is Glove's
[QUOTE=Glove_20]RiDonks me and you rarely get along, but I can give you really good advice on this topic if you're willing to listen (Off of someone else's knowledge/experience)[/QUOTE]
Sure, go for it.
[QUOTE=Glove_20]Didn't I just say I would ace Calc exams without studying? And homework? Who did that in HS?
I own you everywhere besides Music (because I only listen to indian music, so that's understandable) and emo-ness.[/QUOTE]
No, everything outside of math and Gary Payton I own you in.
Everything.
Economics-Macro
[QUOTE=DeuceWallaces]Got a bunch of **** talkers on here, but I've never seen anyone post a test, transcripts, degrees, term papers, assistantship awards, etc.[/QUOTE]
Here's one of my semiconductor physics homeworks from last year.
[IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/14j3ewn.jpg[/IMG]
I would say it was harder than intro physics, but less difficult than particle and waves physics.
[QUOTE=RidonKs]I might actually ask this here -
Say I were debating majoring in Physics for an undergrad. I've never taken a course in HS, and have no more than elementary knowledge of the subject matter. I took Pre-Cal first year and got a B- while putting in virtually no work (that won't happen again obviously if I decide to major in a science/math - I have a newfound respect for those subject). Do you guys think I would need to take a HS equivalency course before I enter the introductory classes in first year, or would I be able to get by with hard work but no foundation? Forget requirements, I'm just curious about difficulty at this point.[/QUOTE]
Ok "All" this isn't really related to what you were asking for.
[B]1.[/B] Where did you get this newfound respect for the topics? :oldlol:
I remember you always hated on them.
[B]2.[/B] Well it's good you finally found out they are good subjects to major in.
[B]3. [/B]Why are they good subjects to major in? Well obviously because of the reasons you found respect for them. One, they are very rigourous, and some of the hardest majors in college. Not only are they intellectually demanding, graduate schools and jobs look favorable at those and have respect for you and your intelligence just off the fact you majored in those topics (with a respectable GPA). And it's justifiable, because if you did major in those topics, you are pretty smart.
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4.[/B] I know that you don't plan on doing math or physics for the rest of your life without you telling me. (Am I right?)
[B]5.
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I'd recommend Math over Physics though. Though I guess it depends on where you are going after this. You could do either though. But if you are planning on doctor/dentistry, then probably Physics because it has more overall science class requirments. Otherwise, math is arguably the most versatile yet rigorous major there is. I can't think of a major that has a better combo of versatilty/rigooursness than math.
[B]6.[/B] Now to your real question.
They are both difficult majors. And you are going to find that you kind of naturally have to be smart to do well at them. I know a lot of friends that took Physics, Math, tried very hard, but didn't do too well. Some of them had the same HS background as you.
Foundation is obviously really important and it kind of sucks you don't have one. But it can be overcome by
a) Natural Intelligence
b) Hard Work
Both are for you to decide. How smart do you think you are naturally in topics such as Math/Physics that require analytical and quantiative thinking?
And how hard are you willing to work? That's for you to decide as well. If you turn out not as smart as you thought, then you better be working a lot harder.
[B]7. [/B]
What I'd suggest is just try a Physics, and Calc class. Give it your best. And then decide. Obviously the majors are very beneficial, so it's worth it to do either.
But besides that, take a Physics, Math class, aim for a 3.5 or higher (since it's introductory), even mid 3.0-3.5 is acceptable since you haven't taken them in a while. But after that, decide if you think you can [I]master[/I] this topic.
If you are able to, you won't regret it.
[QUOTE=AppleNader]Here's one of my semiconductor physics homeworks from last year.
[IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/14j3ewn.jpg[/IMG]
I would say it was harder than intro physics, but less difficult than particle and waves physics.[/QUOTE]
I guess that's a start.
[QUOTE=DeuceWallaces]I guess that's a start.[/QUOTE]
I still want to see Gloves
[QUOTE=AppleNader]I still want to see Gloves[/QUOTE]
I think we're all pretty sure he's full of ****.
[QUOTE=AppleNader]I still want to see Gloves[/QUOTE]
:confusedshrug:
See what? My homework from 7 years ago?
[QUOTE=RidonKs]I might actually ask this here -
Say I were debating majoring in Physics for an undergrad. I've never taken a course in HS, and have no more than elementary knowledge of the subject matter. I took Pre-Cal first year and got a B- while putting in virtually no work (that won't happen again obviously if I decide to major in a science/math - I have a newfound respect for those subject). Do you guys think I would need to take a HS equivalency course before I enter the introductory classes in first year, or would I be able to get by with hard work but no foundation? Forget requirements, I'm just curious about difficulty at this point.[/QUOTE]
I was able to get Cs in my intro physics courses that were required for engineering and I only took a conceptual physics class in HS (regular, not pre ap or AP or IB or honors) where I learned nothing. I worked my ass off for those Cs too.
If you're willing to put in the work, you can pass and that's for sure. Depending on how hard you work and how smart you are and what prof you have then you can get As and Bs.
Applenader, have you taken thermodynamics?
[QUOTE=Glove_20]:confusedshrug:
See what? My homework from 7 years ago?[/QUOTE]
some example of your college work
[QUOTE=Hawker]Applenader, have you taken thermodynamics?[/QUOTE]
no , didn't need to
[QUOTE=AppleNader]some example of your college work[/QUOTE]
Because everyone keeps their college exams/homework for life? :oldlol:
What is it? You think I never went to college and took calculus, physics, etc. ?