How many centers can do this?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0YUN4DBIgo[/url]

Do this WITHOUT even trying hard I might add.

The guy has an in his prime Shawn Kemp beat by 4" in highest touch.

[QUOTE=giantgonzolez][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0YUN4DBIgo[/url]

Do this WITHOUT even trying hard I might add.

The guy has an in his prime Shawn Kemp beat by 4" in highest touch.[/QUOTE]

i should hope he beat kemp's highest reach by 4"...

kemp was 6 inches shorter than ralph sampson, which translates into a lot of arm length.

[QUOTE=Biddy77]i should hope he beat kemp's highest reach by 4"...

kemp was 6 inches shorter than ralph sampson, which translates into a lot of arm length.[/QUOTE]
Ha! That's what i was about to say...

[QUOTE=catzhernandez]Ha! That's what i was about to say...[/QUOTE]

then you're about to get repped for being right :)

(unless i need to spread the rep around etc etc)

[QUOTE=Biddy77]i should hope he beat kemp's highest reach by 4"...

kemp was 6 inches shorter than ralph sampson, which translates into a lot of arm length.[/QUOTE]

If that's true then how do you explain that Shaq is almost 4" taller than Kemp, and has a 7'7" wingspan and 9'8" standing reach(same as Yao Ming), but Kemp's highest touch is 3" more than Shaq?

[QUOTE=giantgonzolez]If that's true then how do you explain that Shaq is almost 4" taller than Kemp, and has a 7'7" wingspan and 9'8" standing reach(same as Yao Ming), but Kemp's highest touch is 3" more than Shaq?[/QUOTE]

why does it always have to be about shaq. give it up. :violin:

BTW, here are pre draft measurements of standing reach, standing vertical jump, and highest standing jump touch of various NBA players.

The first figure is their standing reach, the second figure is the highest point that they can reach from a standing two legged jump, and the third is their vertical jump measurement.

Kobe Bryant 8'10", 12'0", 38 in.
Shaq 9'8", 12'4", 32 in.
Vince Carter 8'11", 12'6", 43 in.
Malone 9'2", 11'6", 28 in.
Steve Francis 8'5", 11'9", 40 in.
Antonio McDyess 9'2", 12'3", 37 in.
Lamar Odom 9'1", 11'9", 32 in.

Older Jumps

Michael Jordan 8'10", 12'5", 43 in.
Dominique Wilkins 9'0", 12'6", 42 in.
Nance 9'4", 12'8", 40 in.
Dr. J 8'11", 12'4", 41 in.
Ralph Sampson 9'11", 12'11", 36 in.
Spud Webb 7'4", 11'2", 46 in.
Stansbury 8'8", 12'2", 42 in.
Woolridge 9'1", 12'3", 38 in.
Kemp 9'3", 12'7", 40 in.
Magic Johnson 9'1", 11'7", 30 in.
Daryl Dawkins 9'4", 12'2", 34 in.
Larry Bird 9'1", 11'5", 28 in.
Kevin McHale 9'5", 11'8", 27 in.
Dee Brown 8'2", 11'10", 44 in.
Harold Miner 8'5", 12'1", 44 in.
Pack 8'3", 11'7", 40 in.
Hakeem Olajuwon 9'6", 12'6", 36 in.
Thompson 8'6", 12'0", 42 in.

[QUOTE=giantgonzolez][b]If that's true[/b] then how do you explain that Shaq is almost 4" taller than Kemp, and has a 7'7" wingspan and 9'8" standing reach(same as Yao Ming), but Kemp's highest touch is 3" more than Shaq?[/QUOTE]


wait... are you just asking me if my opinion ("i should hope so") is true?

or are you asking me if kemp is really 6'10", compared to Sampson's 7'4"?

[QUOTE=giantgonzolez]If that's true then how do you explain that Shaq is almost 4" taller than Kemp, and has a 7'7" wingspan and 9'8" standing reach(same as Yao Ming), but Kemp's highest touch is 3" more than Shaq?[/QUOTE]

Because you hate Shaq.

[QUOTE=giantgonzolez]If that's true then how do you explain that Shaq is almost 4" taller than Kemp, and has a 7'7" wingspan and 9'8" standing reach(same as Yao Ming), but Kemp's highest touch is 3" more than Shaq?[/QUOTE]

Because Shaq weighs a lot more than all of these guys :confusedshrug: plus Shawn Kemp had mad hops. Still, Shaq has more career dunks and blocks than any of them, so who cares about his highest touch. He got up there. Stop hating.

[QUOTE=Manute for Ever!]Because you hate Shaq.[/QUOTE]

Lol :cheers:

Haha I'm really stoned right now, so maybe that's the reason, but I thought it was hilarious when I opened this and was surprised that it wasn't about Shaq only to read down for his true intentions of the post. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=giantgonzolez]If that's true then how do you explain that Shaq is almost 4" taller than Kemp, and has a 7'7" wingspan and 9'8" standing reach(same as Yao Ming), but Kemp's highest touch is 3" more than Shaq?[/QUOTE]
No Shaq's standing reach has been measured at 'only' 9,5". I don't want to go through the trouble of going the source I got that from but you can be certain that there is noway his standing reach is the same as Yao's. As for his vertical during his prime, I am not sure but I am definite that it was over 30 inches.

Dwight Howard, in his sleep.

[QUOTE=giantgonzolez]If that's true then how do you explain that Shaq is almost 4" taller than Kemp, and has a 7'7" wingspan and 9'8" standing reach(same as Yao Ming), but Kemp's highest touch is 3" more than Shaq?[/QUOTE]

Maybe because Shaq weighed a 100 ****ing lbs more...so didn't jump quite as high.

[QUOTE=Valliant13]Maybe because Shaq weighed a 100 ****ing lbs more...so didn't jump quite as high.[/QUOTE]


:roll: :roll: :applause:

[QUOTE=Valliant13]Maybe because Shaq weighed a 100 ****ing lbs more...so didn't jump quite as high.[/QUOTE]

So what, Lebron James weighs almost 100 lbs more than Reggie Miller did and that didn't hurt his jumping ability. Lebron James' real weight is about 275 lbs.

[QUOTE=giantgonzolez]So what, Lebron James weighs almost 100 lbs more than Reggie Miller did and that didn't hurt his jumping ability. Lebron James' real weight is about 275 lbs.[/QUOTE]

Reggie miller was skinny and LeBron is buffed up. LeBron has a low body fat percentage. He's all muscle, way stronger than Reggie.

Shaq has always been .. big. He's struggled with his weight a few times during his career. But who cares? Shaq was/is a freak of nature. His size, his weight, his strength, his hops. He got up there....

[QUOTE=Toizumi]Reggie miller was skinny and LeBron is buffed up. LeBron has a low body fat percentage. He's all muscle, way stronger than Reggie.

Shaq has always been .. big. He's struggled with his weight a few times during his career. But who cares? Shaq was/is a freak of nature. His size, his weight, his strength, his hops. He got up there....[/QUOTE]


Shaq's not really that great an athlete overall, just for being over 300 he's a great athlete. Even a guy like Brock Lesnar when he was over 300lbs had a much higher vertical and a MUCH faster 40 time than Shaq for example.
Also, Shaq's amazing 7'7" wingspan and 9'8" wingspan make him more like a 7'4 or 7'5" guy than a 7'1" guy. He has the same standing reach as Yao Ming.
Shaq's vertical is only 6" more than Yao Ming 32 vs 26".
Shaq should have been blocking 5 shots a game if he was really as good an athlete as he was supposed to be with a 9'8" standing reach.
Shaq's highest touch with a standing jump is 12'4", undersized Olajuwon's is 12'6".
Ralph Sampson's 12'11". Wilt Chamberlain's probably was 13'2" or 13'4".
Shaq is probably the [B]WORST SHOT BLOCKER EVER of anyone with a 9'8" standing reach or higher per minute.[/B]

[QUOTE=giantgonzolez]Shaq's not really that great an athlete overall, just for being over 300 he's a great athlete. Even a guy like Brock Lesnar when he was over 300lbs had a much higher vertical and a MUCH faster 40 time than Shaq for example.
Also, Shaq's amazing 7'7" wingspan and 9'8" wingspan make him more like a 7'4 or 7'5" guy than a 7'1" guy. He has the same standing reach as Yao Ming.
Shaq's vertical is only 6" more than Yao Ming 32 vs 26".
Shaq should have been blocking 5 shots a game if he was really as good an athlete as he was supposed to be with a 9'8" standing reach.
Shaq's highest touch with a standing jump is 12'4", undersized Olajuwon's is 12'6".
Ralph Sampson's 12'11". Wilt Chamberlain's probably was 13'2" or 13'4".
Shaq is probably the [B]WORST SHOT BLOCKER EVER of anyone with a 9'8" standing reach or higher per minute.[/B][/QUOTE]

Just stop :banghead:

[QUOTE=giantgonzolez][B]Shaq's not really that great an athlete overall, just for being over 300 he's a great athlete.[/B] Even a guy like Brock Lesnar when he was over 300lbs had a much higher vertical and a MUCH faster 40 time than Shaq for example.
Also, Shaq's amazing 7'7" wingspan and 9'8" wingspan make him more like a 7'4 or 7'5" guy than a 7'1" guy. He has the same standing reach as Yao Ming.
Shaq's vertical is only 6" more than Yao Ming 32 vs 26".
Shaq should have been blocking 5 shots a game if he was really as good an athlete as he was supposed to be with a 9'8" standing reach.
Shaq's highest touch with a standing jump is 12'4", undersized Olajuwon's is 12'6".
Ralph Sampson's 12'11". Wilt Chamberlain's probably was 13'2" or 13'4".
Shaq is probably the [B]WORST SHOT BLOCKER EVER of anyone with a 9'8" standing reach or higher per minute.[/B][/QUOTE]

So in the first part you admit he's a great athlete. Shaq was fast as hell. No really. I bet Brock Lesnar was faster and could jump higher... but uh who the Fck is that? Some wrestler right? He could probably beat up Shaq too. Why isnt he in the basketball hall of fame than? I dint get that 7'7/9'8 wingspan thing. He's not 7'4?? he's 7'1.. 7'2 at most. Olajuwon, Chamberlain and Sampson were great athletes. The first two might've even been better basketball players than Shaq, but I'm not getting into that conversation.

Shaq is one of the most freakishly gifted athletes ever. His speed, hops, strength were sick. You post a lot facts (standing reach, highest touch etc.) but please link me to something to prove that stuff. Nd who cares anwyway. He's not a bad shotblocker, a career average of 2.3 BPG is sick. He's 7th on the all time block list. Shaq is one of the best centers ever. Let it go you moron.

[QUOTE=Toizumi]So in the first part you admit he's a great athlete. Shaq was fast as hell. No really. I bet Brock Lesnar was faster and could jump higher... but uh who the Fck is that? Some wrestler right? He could probably beat up Shaq too. Why isnt he in the basketball hall of fame than? I dint get that 7'7/9'8 wingspan thing. He's not 7'4?? he's 7'1.. 7'2 at most. Olajuwon, Chamberlain and Sampson were great athletes. The first two might've even been better basketball players than Shaq, but I'm not getting into that conversation.

Shaq is one of the most freakishly gifted athletes ever. His speed, hops, strength were sick. You post a lot facts (standing reach, highest touch etc.) but please link me to something to prove that stuff. Nd who cares anwyway. He's not a bad shotblocker, a career average of 2.3 BPG is sick. He's 7th on the all time block list. Shaq is one of the best centers ever. Let it go you moron.[/QUOTE]

I didn't say Shaq was 7'4", I said Shaq had the standing reach COMPRABLE TO A 7'4" MAN.
He could hi five a normally proportioned 7'4" man without having to be on his tippy toes.

[QUOTE=giantgonzolez]I didn't say Shaq was 7'4", I said Shaq had the standing reach COMPRABLE TO A 7'4" MAN.
He could hi five a normally proportioned 7'4" man without having to be on his tippy toes.[/QUOTE]

ok. so he had long arms.
so?

[QUOTE=giantgonzolez]Shaq's not really that great an athlete overall, just for being over 300 he's a great athlete. Even a guy like Brock Lesnar when he was over 300lbs had a much higher vertical and a MUCH faster 40 time than Shaq for example.
Also, Shaq's amazing 7'7" wingspan and 9'8" wingspan make him more like a 7'4 or 7'5" guy than a 7'1" guy. He has the same standing reach as Yao Ming.
Shaq's vertical is only 6" more than Yao Ming 32 vs 26".
Shaq should have been blocking 5 shots a game if he was really as good an athlete as he was supposed to be with a 9'8" standing reach.
Shaq's highest touch with a standing jump is 12'4", undersized Olajuwon's is 12'6".
Ralph Sampson's 12'11". Wilt Chamberlain's probably was 13'2" or 13'4".
Shaq is probably the [B]WORST SHOT BLOCKER EVER of anyone with a 9'8" standing reach or higher per minute.[/B][/QUOTE]

I can't believe wasting time on this, but: a few facts

Shaq was not 300lbs, he was 330 to 360 during his prime, and a legit 7'1. Most guys anywhere near that size are complete stiffs that can barely run. Shaq had a 30+inch vert, was very coordinated, explosive and freakishly agile. You can certaintly attack Shaq's work ethic and defensive intensity...but physically he was just as big a freak as Lebron James (just scaled up).

And Brock (who I've been a huge fan of since his Minnesota days) is 6'4 285 ( his Vert was in the mid 30's, right around the 36 inches Shaq tested at the predraft combine)...and was never over, or even at, 300lbs.
Sometime the WWE likes to exaggerate things. He is a phenomenal athlete though, just one nowhere near the size of Shaq.

[QUOTE=giantgonzolez]BTW, here are pre draft measurements of standing reach, standing vertical jump, and highest standing jump touch of various NBA players.

The first figure is their standing reach, the second figure is the highest point that they can reach from a standing two legged jump, and the third is their vertical jump measurement.

Kobe Bryant 8'10", 12'0", 38 in.
Shaq 9'8", 12'4", 32 in.
Vince Carter 8'11", 12'6", 43 in.
Malone 9'2", 11'6", 28 in.
Steve Francis 8'5", 11'9", 40 in.
Antonio McDyess 9'2", 12'3", 37 in.
Lamar Odom 9'1", 11'9", 32 in.

Older Jumps

Michael Jordan 8'10", 12'5", 43 in.
Dominique Wilkins 9'0", 12'6", 42 in.
Nance 9'4", 12'8", 40 in.
Dr. J 8'11", 12'4", 41 in.
Ralph Sampson 9'11", 12'11", 36 in.
Spud Webb 7'4", 11'2", 46 in.
Stansbury 8'8", 12'2", 42 in.
Woolridge 9'1", 12'3", 38 in.
Kemp 9'3", 12'7", 40 in.
Magic Johnson 9'1", 11'7", 30 in.
Daryl Dawkins 9'4", 12'2", 34 in.
Larry Bird 9'1", 11'5", 28 in.
Kevin McHale 9'5", 11'8", 27 in.
Dee Brown 8'2", 11'10", 44 in.
Harold Miner 8'5", 12'1", 44 in.
Pack 8'3", 11'7", 40 in.
Hakeem Olajuwon 9'6", 12'6", 36 in.
Thompson 8'6", 12'0", 42 in.[/QUOTE]

Wow I thats amazing can you find nate robinson's please?

[QUOTE=giantgonzolez]BTW, here are pre draft measurements of standing reach, standing vertical jump, and highest standing jump touch of various NBA players.

The first figure is their standing reach, the second figure is the highest point that they can reach from a standing two legged jump, and the third is their vertical jump measurement.

Kobe Bryant 8'10", 12'0", 38 in.
Shaq 9'8", 12'4", 32 in.
Vince Carter 8'11", 12'6", 43 in.
Malone 9'2", 11'6", 28 in.
Steve Francis 8'5", 11'9", 40 in.
Antonio McDyess 9'2", 12'3", 37 in.
Lamar Odom 9'1", 11'9", 32 in.

Older Jumps

Michael Jordan 8'10", 12'5", 43 in.
Dominique Wilkins 9'0", 12'6", 42 in.
Nance 9'4", 12'8", 40 in.
Dr. J 8'11", 12'4", 41 in.
Ralph Sampson 9'11", 12'11", 36 in.
Spud Webb 7'4", 11'2", 46 in.
Stansbury 8'8", 12'2", 42 in.
Woolridge 9'1", 12'3", 38 in.
Kemp 9'3", 12'7", 40 in.
Magic Johnson 9'1", 11'7", 30 in.
Daryl Dawkins 9'4", 12'2", 34 in.
Larry Bird 9'1", 11'5", 28 in.
Kevin McHale 9'5", 11'8", 27 in.
Dee Brown 8'2", 11'10", 44 in.
Harold Miner 8'5", 12'1", 44 in.
Pack 8'3", 11'7", 40 in.
Hakeem Olajuwon 9'6", 12'6", 36 in.
Thompson 8'6", 12'0", 42 in.[/QUOTE]

Where did you get those? I was looking?

[QUOTE=giantgonzolez][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0YUN4DBIgo[/url]

Do this WITHOUT even trying hard I might add.

The guy has an in his prime Shawn Kemp beat by 4" in highest touch.[/QUOTE]

Umm... lots?

And Kemp wasn't a center, but was more athletic then Sampson and way shorter.

[QUOTE=phoenix18]Wow I thats amazing can you find nate robinson's please?[/QUOTE]

44" I think... or mabye 48???? I think its 44. You can find at draftexpress where they've got loads of stats.

[QUOTE=Valliant13]I can't believe wasting time on this, but: a few facts

Shaq was not 300lbs, he was 330 to 360 during his prime, and a legit 7'1. Most guys anywhere near that size are complete stiffs that can barely run. Shaq had a 30+inch vert, was very coordinated, explosive and freakishly agile. You can certaintly attack Shaq's work ethic and defensive intensity...but physically he was just as big a freak as Lebron James (just scaled up).

And Brock (who I've been a huge fan of since his Minnesota days) is 6'4 285 ( his Vert was in the mid 30's, right around the 36 inches Shaq tested at the predraft combine)...and was never over, or even at, 300lbs.
Sometime the WWE likes to exaggerate things. He is a phenomenal athlete though, just one nowhere near the size of Shaq.[/QUOTE]

He's 285 lbs [B]NOW[/B] and cuts to 265 for fights, He was over 300lbs in his prime.
Shaq was 301lbs in his prime athletic condition.

[QUOTE=giantgonzolez]BTW, here are pre draft measurements of standing reach, standing vertical jump, and highest standing jump touch of various NBA players.

The first figure is their standing reach, the second figure is the highest point that they can reach from a standing two legged jump, and the third is their vertical jump measurement.

Kobe Bryant 8'10", 12'0", 38 in.
Shaq 9'8", 12'4", 32 in.
Vince Carter 8'11", 12'6", 43 in.
Malone 9'2", 11'6", 28 in.
Steve Francis 8'5", 11'9", 40 in.
Antonio McDyess 9'2", 12'3", 37 in.
Lamar Odom 9'1", 11'9", 32 in.

Older Jumps

Michael Jordan 8'10", 12'5", 43 in.
Dominique Wilkins 9'0", 12'6", 42 in.
Nance 9'4", 12'8", 40 in.
Dr. J 8'11", 12'4", 41 in.
Ralph Sampson 9'11", 12'11", 36 in.
Spud Webb 7'4", 11'2", 46 in.
Stansbury 8'8", 12'2", 42 in.
Woolridge 9'1", 12'3", 38 in.
Kemp 9'3", 12'7", 40 in.
Magic Johnson 9'1", 11'7", 30 in.
Daryl Dawkins 9'4", 12'2", 34 in.
Larry Bird 9'1", 11'5", 28 in.
Kevin McHale 9'5", 11'8", 27 in.
Dee Brown 8'2", 11'10", 44 in.
Harold Miner 8'5", 12'1", 44 in.
Pack 8'3", 11'7", 40 in.
Hakeem Olajuwon 9'6", 12'6", 36 in.
Thompson 8'6", 12'0", 42 in.[/QUOTE]

This looks pretty legit. Do you have a source for this by chance? I'm trying to put together some of this data. It's crazy how often vertical jumps are exaggerated, even from Wilt's day to Artis Gilmore to Deandre Ayton all claiming 40+ inch verticals...yet, all are 7'0"-7'2", but yet none of them ever hit their head on the rim nor are there any accounts (reported) or photos of any of them hitting their heads on the rim. So we're looking at 34-36 inches as a max and working our way down.

Here's Deandre's Tweet...
[url]https://twitter.com/deandreayton/status/912502520609521664?lang=en[/url]