Quentin Tarantino's Inglourious Basterds is better than Pulp Fiction

my friend told me that he just saw an advance screening in the UK, and he said this film is a flat out epic MASTERPIECE Tarantino has finally topped 'Pulp Fiction'.He said Inglourious Basterds has to be one of the most refreshing pieces of work in years. Everything from the script, music, acting, cinematography, directing was just AWESOME!.

He told me that you have to be patient with most scenes as QT lets the dialogue linger, but that's one of the genius parts of the film.
Brad Pitt, Christoph Waltz, Eli Roth etc... all give astonishing performances. The guy who plays Omar is good also.

he just still buzzed to the max after seeing this, he will go and watch this again 100%.
Even though the script might not be historically correct, it plays out well.

he said this movie might well just be QT's Masterpiece

I told him, Horse sh!t. Definitely don't believe that Inglourious Basterd better than Pulp Fiction.

And he said yes this IS better than Pulp Fiction, half his cinema were saying the same thing after they left & told me that the movie even got a round of a applause (rare!!!)

he said that Trust him on this, at first he was like 'sh!t it can't be better than PF'........., then the last 30 mins of the movie proved him wrong.

he said that hands down QT strongest film in all departments, this is his NCFOM, TWBB.
Like he said MASTERPIECE


But I still.... can't f*cking wait to see this.

Quentin Tarantino and Pulp Fiction are so overrated, Guy Ritchie and his film snatch is so much better than anything Tarantino has ever done.

gotta see this.

[QUOTE=sergiorodriguez]Quentin Tarantino and Pulp Fiction are so overrated, Guy Ritchie and his film snatch is so much better than anything Tarantino has ever done.[/QUOTE]

hmmmm, I like both Tarantino and Ritchie. Lock, Stock, and two smoking barrels was great too. Don't think either director is overrated, especially not the work in Pulp Fiction.

Reviews for this have been getting better and better...( [url]http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/inglourious_basterds/[/url] )

This review from Slant Magazine (Slant is usually very good for thoughtful reviews and analysis) has me especially excited. The critic makes it clear that he's not a big Tarantino fan and even calls Death Proof "cruel and unusual punishment." However, he says some very positive things, most interesting of which are his statements that Inglorious Basterds exhibits both maturity and restraint and features a distinct human element often absent in Tarantino's work.

[url]http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/film_review.asp?ID=4455[/url]

i dont like tarantino because of his tendency to put gay rape in all his films

[QUOTE=DonDadda59]hmmmm, I like both Tarantino and Ritchie. Lock, Stock, and two smoking barrels was great too. Don't think either director is overrated, especially not the work in Pulp Fiction.[/QUOTE]

Same.

I like both and both of their movies have been very enjoyable. I am not too big into movies, but I own DVDs like Snatch, and Pulp Fiction. Those are films I enjoy watching many times that they are worth owning

[QUOTE=sergiorodriguez]Quentin Tarantino and Pulp Fiction are so overrated, Guy Ritchie and his film snatch is so much better than anything Tarantino has ever done.[/QUOTE]
pfft


PFFFT



I can't wait for this ****

I'm looking forward to this, even though I don't really like Tarantino normally. I loved "Death Proof." Hated Reservoir dogs. Hated Kill Bills. Mixed feelings toward Pulp Fiction. Haven't seen anything else he's made.

But there's something about the trailers I've seen that sets a good vibe for me. Maybe it's because Ryan from The Office is in it... I don't know. We'll see.

I'm mostly looking forward to seeing this guy collect a Nazi skull

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[QUOTE=Gundress]my friend told me that he just saw an advance screening in the UK, and he said this film is a flat out epic MASTERPIECE Tarantino has finally topped 'Pulp Fiction'.He said Inglourious Basterds has to be one of the most refreshing pieces of work in years. Everything from the script, music, acting, cinematography, directing was just AWESOME!.

He told me that you have to be patient with most scenes as QT lets the dialogue linger, but that's one of the genius parts of the film.
Brad Pitt, Christoph Waltz, Eli Roth etc... all give astonishing performances. The guy who plays Omar is good also.

he just still buzzed to the max after seeing this, he will go and watch this again 100%.
Even though the script might not be historically correct, it plays out well.

he said this movie might well just be QT's Masterpiece

I told him, Horse sh!t. Definitely don't believe that Inglourious Basterd better than Pulp Fiction.

And he said yes this IS better than Pulp Fiction, half his cinema were saying the same thing after they left & told me that the movie even got a round of a applause (rare!!!)

he said that Trust him on this, at first he was like 'sh!t it can't be better than PF'........., then the last 30 mins of the movie proved him wrong.

he said that hands down QT strongest film in all departments, this is his NCFOM, TWBB.
Like he said MASTERPIECE


But I still.... can't f*cking wait to see this.[/QUOTE]

Well, considering PF is only a 7.5/10 for me I think it could be possible.

[QUOTE=Kebab Stall]You don't like gay rape?

F@g[/QUOTE]

:roll:

Line of the day.

~~~

Ima definitely see the movie. Better than pulp fiction is high praise.

[QUOTE]NCFOM, TWBB.[/QUOTE]

OK, got the no country for old men, but what is the other one?



And guys, Ritchie is nice, but ya cant tel me he has not digested Tarantino can ya? Before making anything of his own, Ya KNOW he has been influnced by Q man. I wont say he would not exist without Quentin but common.

[QUOTE=momo]
OK, got the no country for old men, but what is the other one?[/QUOTE]

There will be blood. :cheers:

[QUOTE=ProfessorMurder]Two things...

1. How could you not like Kill Bill?!?!?!

2. Please don't refer to the ****ty Office as a reason this will be good.[/QUOTE]

3. How could he not like Reservoir Dogs?

It was a little disappointing to see the part of TheJewBear go to freaking Eli Roth. But besides that, the trailer looks decent.

The script was definitely a good read. It held some of Q.T.'s best dialog. Plus, he seemed to include a decent amount of humor, mixed in with the drama.

The ending (according to the leaked script) showed a bit of an action-movie.thriller turn... So im surprised to read that the friend felt it was the quintessential portion.

There's nothing I can think of that Tarantino has been this responsible for that I haven't liked, although it often takes me time to come around. I needed multiple viewings to fully appreciate Pulp Fiction, and didn't really care for Kill Bill until seeing it many times on cable, and now it's among my favorites.

I do have a few concerns about this. So much of his work is done with tongue firmly planted in cheek, and the WWII setting can be hard to take this level of lightness with. You can go full out Springtime For Hitler level foolish, or it's dead serious Private Ryan, but rarely has the in between worked. And that's usually where QT sits.
Secondly, obviously one of Tarantino's greatest strengths is his use of language, and with a good chunk of the cast not speaking english, I'm concerned some his stuff will be lost in translation. I know getting the guy who plays the lead Nazi was a major coup for him, and I've heard him say he wouldn't have done the project without him. So I have hopes in this area.
Thirdly, QT is well known for his use of pop culture references, and in this setting, I'm not sure how they'll fit. Although he is pretty well schooled in old music and seems to have a thing for old time pin up girls (the diner seen in Pulp Fiction is some reference), could come into play.

Either way it's an opening weekend flick for me, and I'm expecting and hoping to love it. It just doesn't fully feel like what I've come to expect from him, which is fine.

Best movie I've seen in a very long time. Great story, great actors. Especially Christoph Waltz (the Jew hunter) was outstanding. Oh, and the ending is just fantastic. :roll:

[QUOTE]Secondly, obviously one of Tarantino's greatest strengths is his use of language, and with a good chunk of the cast not speaking english, I'm concerned some his stuff will be lost in translation. I know getting the guy who plays the lead Nazi was a major coup for him, and I've heard him say he wouldn't have done the project without him. So I have hopes in this area.[/QUOTE]
Well, would you rather have them speak Shakespeare English like in Valkyrie? Yeah you'll have to read subtitles but it adds an extra dimension to it. The dialogs are definitely one of the best things in the movie.

You are proclaiming this from your friends review? Ban! :no:

Cant wait to see this. Reviews are good and the Jew Hunter sounds awesome.

Plus Diane Kruger in 1940's makeup and wardrobe sounds HOT.

[QUOTE=sergiorodriguez]Quentin Tarantino and Pulp Fiction are so overrated, Guy Ritchie and his film snatch is so much better than anything Tarantino has ever done.[/QUOTE]

this!
Snatch is a lot more entertaining than Pulp Fiction. I watch it simply out of boredom.
Putting aside that ****ty movie with Madonna, Ritchie's work is always on a certain level, whereas Tarantino is soooooo uneven.

[QUOTE=Thugnificent]this!
Snatch is a lot more entertaining than Pulp Fiction. I watch it simply out of boredom.
Putting aside that ****ty movie with Madonna, Ritchie's work is always on a certain level, whereas Tarantino is soooooo uneven.[/QUOTE]

Guy Ritchie?:roll: :roll: :roll:

Dudes last two movies have flopped.

[QUOTE=quasimoto]Best movie I've seen in a very long time. Great story, great actors. Especially Christoph Waltz (the Jew hunter) was outstanding. Oh, and the ending is just fantastic. :roll:


Well, would you rather have them speak Shakespeare English like in Valkyrie? Yeah you'll have to read subtitles but it adds an extra dimension to it. The dialogs are definitely one of the best things in the movie.[/QUOTE]


There's more to dialogue than just what's said. Inflection, and other subtleties can be lost not just because most of the audience won't speak the language, but neither does the director.
I have no problem with reading subtitles, it's just that with the specific case of Tarantino's work, I think it could have an effect on one of his defining traits.

[QUOTE=Thugnificent]this!
Snatch is a lot more entertaining than Pulp Fiction. I watch it simply out of boredom.
Putting aside that ****ty movie with Madonna, Ritchie's work is always on a certain level, whereas Tarantino is soooooo uneven.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=momo]

And guys, Ritchie is nice, but ya cant tel me he has not digested Tarantino can ya? Before making anything of his own, Ya KNOW he has been influnced by Q man. I wont say he would not exist without Quentin but common.[/QUOTE]

Again, don't you think Ritchie has to be considered a bit of a Tarantino clone? I mean seriously, he borrows heavily from Q man. And I like his stuff a lot. Rock and rolla was great. Lock stock, snatch... loved them.

But at least admit, he owes Q man something.

[QUOTE=Hotlantadude81]Guy Ritchie?:roll: :roll: :roll:

Dudes last two movies have flopped.[/QUOTE]

That does not mean that the movies were bad...
Revolver and RocknRolla weren't simply as hyped as Death Proof.
Ritchie is repetitive, that's true, but all in all I pick him, because he is not as boring as Tarantino.

Plus I'm a hater.:hammertime:

Yes, I admit he borrowed.
Didn't Tarantino build his whole style on borrowing?
Don't critics defend his movies simply by saying "oh, he borrows from..." not that it has anything to do with the value of the picture?

Saw it today. Fantastic movie, although it was different then what I thought it would be. The trailer kinda paints it as the Basterds adventuring across France, killing Nazi's and taking their scalps. You kinda wish you could get more backstory into some of the Basterds, because other then Stiglitz (German born Nazi killer) and Aldo talking about himself a tiny bit, half of the Basterds are really not given much charactization. Most of the movie, they just stand around watching Aldo talk and then most of them completely disappear by the end without any explanation.

the movie was awesome,

tarantino really knows how to include some bull****, but it all falls into place at the end of the movie somehow or someway.

i was not dissapointed except for one scene where i stepped outside used the bathroom walked back in and still new exactly wat was going on (mike myers scene)

but one word. jewbear. u'll see ;)

Any more review's since it opened last night in the States?

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this guy better win an oscar! :applause:

[QUOTE=Thugnificent]That does not mean that the movies were bad...
Revolver and RocknRolla weren't simply as hyped as Death Proof.
Ritchie is repetitive, that's true, but all in all I pick him, because he is not as boring as Tarantino.[/quote]

Dude's last few movies also get low ratings at allmovie.com



[quote]Yes, I admit he borrowed.
Didn't Tarantino build his whole style on borrowing?
Don't critics defend his movies simply by saying "oh, he borrows from..." not that it has anything to do with the value of the picture?[/QUOTE]

But he is rip off of a guy that's made movies after watching too many movies. I don't like The Boondock Saints and Smokin' Aces either. Which are two more rip offs. Plus, the more often it's done, the more it feels watered down or even more just... lame.

My favorite QT is most people's less favorite. Jackie Brown of course. It's his most mature movie, and even though it doesn't have the overblown violence that guys can't seem to do with out, I love it more with each viewing.

[QUOTE=Hotlantadude81]Dude's last few movies also get low ratings at allmovie.com

Plus I'm a hater.:hammertime:



But he is rip off of a guy that's made movies after watching too many movies. I don't like The Boondock Saints and Smokin' Aces either. Which are two more rip offs. Plus, the more often it's done, the more it feels watered down or even more just... lame.

[B]My favorite QT is most people's less favorite. Jackie Brown of course. It's his most mature movie, and even though it doesn't have the overblown violence that guys can't seem to do with out, I love it more with each viewing.[/B][/QUOTE]
Jackie Brown is easily my favourite Tarantino film aswell. It's an excellent film and often underrated when it comes to Tarantino's best films.

[QUOTE=Kebab Stall]Jackie Brown is easily my favourite Tarantino film aswell. It's an excellent film and often underrated when it comes to Tarantino's best films.[/QUOTE]

It doesn't hurt that Jackie is somewhat my ideal kind of chick. Kind on roughneck at times, but can be pretty feminine sometimes. She can handle her self also.

Aw man, Jackie Brown is too cool for school!

I cannot believe that Jackie Brown doesn't get enough love

going to see it at 10pm tonight

Just walked in. Really loved it. Probably more than most of Tarantino's stuff upon first viewing. It's more purely a plot driven flick than most. Like the Professor said a few posts back, there really isn't any backstory on anyone, except Shoshana. But because the way it plays is as the drive of this plot, I didn't really miss it, and I actually prefer that it was discarded than sprinkled in thin.
I was a little sursprised there wasn't more examples of the Basterds' brutality. But if I can sit through an almost two and half hour movie and still be wondering why there wasn't more of something, than something is being done right.

My concerns about the language barrier were quickly proven unnecessary. It bounces pretty seemlessly between German, French, and English, and even a bit of Eye-Talian ... Grazi!! And a lot of it comes back to Brunch@Fives post. Hans Landa is a great villian. And his command of all the languages, and ability to convey nuance in each, is the lynchpin to this thing. I read that Tarantino was willing to bail on the project without the guy, and that's after spending years working on it, and finally getting financing, and Brad Pitt attatched. It seemed like typical blustery bull**** when I read it, but after seeing it, I think he was genuine.

I was also concerned about the delicacy of the setting, but it plays perfectly. Even during all the comedic relief, and hyper stylized violence, it still feels like a pure revenge flick, and I know when he was writing the script, the Basterds were southern blacks and the Nazis were the KKK, and it would have felt exactly the same. It's not an historical document, but so long as you're aware of that and ok with it going in, and you can just go along with the ride. It's a little like Ocean's 11 except the Casino is a movie theatre, instead of money it's dead Nazi's they're after, and it's Goebbells instead of Andy Garcia.

I really liked the split up story more than usual. The two sides approaching the same event seperately, with such similar motives. It really worked well, and Shoshana was great.

I really loved it, it's a low 90s for me, and I second the notion of Christopher Walz for an early entry for a possible Oscar Nom.



For those who've seen it, when Hans and Shoshana are having strudel, and he says he wanted to ask her something but he forgot, what do you think it was?

man what a kickass movie. the previews led me to believe it was going to be more tongue in cheek like Grindhouse, it was definitely funny but this will seriously get award nominations. Missed some of the acting because of the subtitles (i don't sprechen ze doitch o francais) but I thought it really added to the story. Holy sh*t Christoph Waltz killed it! I'm a little standoffish about some of Quentin's stuff but this was a full on winner. If it's not my favorite of his, it's close.

Saw it today, real solid flick if kind of empty. Funny as hell, great dialogue, fine cinematography, and grand performances from pretty much everyone except for the actors who portrayed the Nazi hierarchy and Eli Roth; figure the former is intentional as QT was trying to degrade them into pitiful caricatures. Some people have *****ed about the sequencing of the narrative but they all worked and the interconnectedness of the apparent disconnection paid off in a big way for the finale.

Could've used a better dictator in the editing room. Most of the conversations were intriguing and entertaining, but the movie ran long as is and using the characters to convey to the audience the depth and breadth of your 1920s cinema knowledge was masturrbatory special features fodder.

Don't know where to rank it among his films, and I've liked every single one with Reservoir Dogs the longtime front-runner. He remains the prodigious but limited talent he's always been. Never got the feeling QT comprehended human bonds beyond a superficial or symbolic plain and this film doesn't change that.

[B]Highlights (spoilerlights):[/B]


Bonjourno straight from Tennessee.

"You get that for killing Jews?"
"Bravery."

The entire opening scene between the French farmer and Colonel Landa.

"Hell I been chewed out before."

The subplot between Shosanna and the war hero, especially its climax and resolution. Though his sudden switch of character just prior seemed forced.

[QUOTE=Thorpesaurous]For those who've seen it, when Hans and Shoshana are having strudel, and he says he wanted to ask her something but he forgot, what do you think it was?[/QUOTE]

Had the notion it was a cat playing with its food. The look he gave her and the fact he ordered her a glass of milk was his way of letting her know he was aware of her true identity.

[QUOTE=Zombles]
"You get that for killing Jews?"
"Bravery."

[/QUOTE]


f*ck yeah. that was a [U]really[/U] well setup/delivered "joke". High fives all around to the writer(s) and actors.

[QUOTE=Zombles]
The entire opening scene between the French farmer and Colonel Landa.

Had the notion it was a cat playing with its food. The look he gave her and the fact he ordered her a glass of milk was his way of letting her know he was aware of her true identity.[/QUOTE]

quentin snuck in his little foot fetish scene too with the cinderella moment. His f*cking laugh when she told him she hurt her foot mountain climbing, they set up the doom so well. Landa was a remarkable stand out, I'm pretty sure all his scenes were stellar, especially the ones you cited, the opening scene is a monster.

Christopher Waltz was great. So great.

Overall I'd rank it just below Kill Bill 1 and Pulp fiction. I guess I was looking for a little more backstory on the Basterds and the setting (nazi-germany) was not as creative imo as his other works, but still my top film of the year so far. Ridiculously entertaining, loved 80% of the dialog. Could use a little bit more editing but that always happens with QT films.

I felt like the attempt to put a human face on some of the lower level Reich was interesting. The young Vilhelm with his son, the whole bar scene really. Most of Zoller's characterizations up, even guilt, until his final turn. Both sequences showed a human side of that soldier who's usually portrayed closer to a snarling emotionless storm trooper. And then in both cases they were shown reverting out of complete fear for their authorities.